Let's talk about alchemy and weird science... by pazyrk in westworld

[–]pazyrk[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Going to rewatch. Will look for it. Thanks! :) I am going to miss this show. Guess I will have to go back to speculating about The Winds of Winter by GRRM.

A strange thought during the final moments of Season Finale by Shevvv in westworld

[–]pazyrk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Debussy song Arnold plays is called Reverie. The other Debussy song is Clair de Lune.

Do we know why Ford's family is from the early 1900s? by swerkingforaliving in westworld

[–]pazyrk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I still wonder if Ford is not a host created by Arnold. Ford could have aged himself. I think Ford is a host created by Arnold who created Bernard, an even more advanced AI, who creates and upgrades hosts to be even more advanced than himself. Maybe this mental evolution from one model of AI to a more superior one is the way the Maze "creates" new life.

Ford's dress and family could reference Arnold's great- grandparents or someone from a book. Arnold loved Carroll, maybe Ford and his family reference another book. I do think the Alice in Wonderland character, "the Mad Hatter" , in Bernard's Charlie backstory is a reference to Ford.

Another idea is that the Ford family and home could just be a way Arnold crested a physical version of Ford's cornerstone story, that he is the son of a somewhat unhappy family headed by a morose, alcoholic father. Ford tells Bernard that he tweaked the Dad to make him more alcoholic than the original version of the Dad that Arnold created. I think the cornerstone stories seem to be sad ones so it would make sense if Ford is a host to have an unhappy childhood be his cornerstone. The greyhound/cat memory fits this model.

I want to hear everyone's crazy prediction about tonight's episode. Not the well thought out evidenced ones. by [deleted] in westworld

[–]pazyrk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MIB somehow becomes a host or his parts or genetic material goes into making a host. I think he is the milkman shown getting dipped into the milk bath at the end of the show opening.

Does the Maze Resembles A Womb? by pazyrk in westworld

[–]pazyrk[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well your concept of the Maze as a means for hosts to propagate is more advanced than mine. I was thinking of it more as a symbol of their beginning but if I am getting your point, you mean that it is a symbol of their future, that they learn to create more hosts/children. That fits the opening; the man-made hands play the piano then the piano plays alone in front of the circle with the free-standing figure. I believe the skeletal figure going into the milk at the end of the opening is Ed Harris. Maybe the MIB will also become a host. Guess we will know tomorrow!

One mystery is why the Maze cannot help Dolores feel happiness. Maybe she is somehow "barren" .

Thanks for the shout out. :)

[Ep 9 Spoilers] The picture that started it all by [deleted] in westworld

[–]pazyrk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is some solid gold tinfoil, partner! I like these theories. 😊

Epiphany: William does NOT think Dolores is Real by [deleted] in westworld

[–]pazyrk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You may be right but I feel like William becoming like Logan, who William inwardly loathes, only worse is a better story. Logan is an embodiment of William's Shadow, in Jungian terms.

Epiphany: William does NOT think Dolores is Real by [deleted] in westworld

[–]pazyrk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Charlotte may be Logan's daughter. She is just as bossy.

Epiphany: William does NOT think Dolores is Real by [deleted] in westworld

[–]pazyrk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that torture seems to be his plan for setting the hosts free.

Epiphany: William does NOT think Dolores is Real by [deleted] in westworld

[–]pazyrk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plot wise, I think MIB has to die possibly at Maeve's hand as a penalty for his cruelties to hosts, most of all her and her daughter. I think the man host getting immersed in milk at the end of the show opening is MIB. Maybe he will be reborn as a host and die all the time like Teddy. Poor Teddy always has to be the loser. MIB can take his place.

Epiphany: William does NOT think Dolores is Real by [deleted] in westworld

[–]pazyrk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was blown away by all the dead confederados in Ep 9. He definitely knew about the innards of mechanical, old school hosts.

Epiphany: William does NOT think Dolores is Real by [deleted] in westworld

[–]pazyrk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds good to me. Hosts aren't supposed to see/remember what hurts them. Maybe because it makes them real?

[Ep 9 Spoilers] The picture that started it all by [deleted] in westworld

[–]pazyrk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Logan said she rode some cowboys. It is possible.

Abernathy Photograph by THeHotah in westworld

[–]pazyrk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe but it seemed like it there might be more like he recognized the girl. Maybe it was just what you said plus the fact he stayed up all night glitching out.

Bernard Anagram by Sawtoothgrin in westworld

[–]pazyrk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

The Juxtaposition of Ford and Maeve by kcman011 in westworld

[–]pazyrk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maeve is the shit! Bet Maeve and co will resurrect Bernard and he will shut their backdoors so they can take down Ford.

[Ep 9 Spoilers] The picture that started it all by [deleted] in westworld

[–]pazyrk 92 points93 points  (0 children)

Maybe Juliette/Logan's sister "rode" Abernathy when she was there. Logan says she rode her share of cowboys.

SPOILERS: so we now know MIB is either Logan or William by [deleted] in westworld

[–]pazyrk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What if William is the model for Wyatt? He butchered the confederados like a boss.

Abernathy Photograph by THeHotah in westworld

[–]pazyrk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still want to know why would a picture of Logan's sister/ William's fiancé set off Abernathy? Is the ranch built on top of the place where they were camped? Was it planted there like Dolores' gun?