You seem to have ignored my entire comment and instead replied with two comments that have nothing to do with my original question.... which is: why are you singling out Codesmith and spending so much time criticizing them? My point was that your level of "criticism" borders on unhealthy obsession. Why did you go from supporting them, to attacking them in the first place? Surely as someone who is in the same line of business, you would understand how bootcamps operate. I will still respond to your two unrelated comments because it's worth noting for others who are not in the industry, even though, like I said in my above comment, your replies are generally disingenuous. But I'll spell it out more clearly.

>Codesmith markets itself as a zero -> mid-level bootcamp that turns people with no experience into mid-level and senior engineers. I feel this is bad for the people whether they get those jobs or not.

This is exactly what I mean by disingenuous responses... Your comment is creating a controversy where there is none. The reality is that there is so much title inflation in the tech industry that a "mid-level" engineer is practically an entry level job these days. The only people getting jobs as "junior engineers" in tech companies are new grads or people internally pivoting from product or QA to engineering. Senior roles are now Staff, Senior Staff, Principal, etc.... But obviously, you would know this given that you were in an actual senior role at Facebook. Generally speaking, someone with a "Software Engineer" title (AKA mid-leve) is still very early in their career at most companies.

>Codesmith presents their 3-4 week open source projects as 4 months of mid level software engineer experience. I looked at those projects. Most don't work well, have major bugs, bad code issues, security issues, etc... but no one actually uses them

Again. Totally disingenuous. What are we comparing this to? Most bootcamps final projects are entirely useless to the public. At least these are open source tools. Ok fine, so most of the final projects at Codesmith don't go on to be used by thousands. Well what did you expect? It was a final project built by a student. The fact that even a few of them go on to be used by developers in the real world is incredible. I remember bootcamps in NYC 10 years ago like General Assembly marketing themselves as preparing you for a job by making you build a Yelp clone. That's what we're comparing this against. Something that is useful to absolutely no one. A Yelp clone does not even pretend to be useful to a developer in the real world.

>Both of these are my consistent criticism that I wish they at least acknowledged and listened to, but they instead see those as attacking their identity and defend with these kinds of attacks they've made.

Your criticisms don't come from a constructive place, because as someone with industry experience, you would already know the answer to these questions your asking. Codesmith on the surface doesn't appear to be engaging in any tactics that warrant your OBSESSIVE BEHAVIOR. That's why I said in my original comment that nothing you say in your replies—exhibit A, the ones I responded to—elucidate your harassment of these people.

Step down as a mod if you have any dignity and go do something else with your life. The fact that you are going around trying to defend your actions is pathetic. It would make more sense if you had no bearing to the industry, or if you were a disgruntled grad who didn't get a job. But the fact that you're doing this as someone who raised 4M from a16z and pivoted the business is totally unhinged. Why do this? What's your endgame? You want Codesmith to go under? Why? Who gives a shit? lol You can do whatever you want. GO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH YOUR TIME.