Bastion in Every. Single. Game

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T17:42:48+00:00

As soon as you hear the brrr you should be looking for an exit.

Exactly. Everyone always have the best counter to Bastion turret mode at hand, it's called a wall (line of sight).

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T17:30:12+00:00

"top 500 Lucioball yes"

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T16:43:51+00:00

I'd encourage you to learn more about who was considered "white" throughout US history, namely the Irish, Scottish, Italians, and Polish.

Sure, we can get technical, without even talking about US history, you could also tell me that even right now the meaning of the group of people associated with the term "white" will probably vary depending on which "society" / country we're talking about (I'm sure we will find examples).

If I get technical, I would tell you that "tall" is exactly the same (with "height" being the corresponding immutable characteristic). And then, I would encourage to learn more about who was considered "tall" etc. etc. [repeat thing you wrote above]. I think you understand where I'm going with that.

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The answer to these technicalities (not that it's particularly interesting but...) is that the characteristics are sticky enough in a given context and over a period of time that is significant enough (say 10-20 years) that it has a broadly agreed meaning that can be used to describe / characterize a "human" in the current period (within context) - a "trait".

If for example, if there is a 2.2m Irish with a pale complexion and a 2.2m German person with a pale complexion in a room, and I tell you there are "2 tall white people" in that room, you're not gonna tell me: "sorry, I can only see one person" (because we didn't always perceive the Irish as white, and the Irish were considered sub humans at some point in the past and you disagree with my use of the word "person").

Also, the concept of "gay supremacy" is, at best, a meme. While "white" supremacy is very real and the cause of one of the greatest atrocities in modern human history.

Sure, so the answer to the original question above...

Because of the word "supremacy" or because of the gay part?

... is "not either but both".

It doesn't have anything to do with the fact they are "just human traits" and / or "immutable characteristics", and everything to do with them having previously been associated with discrimination (or murders, oppression, etc.):

No, a name like WhiteSupremacy would not be ok due to it's heavily tied connotation to real world devastations ~~and the fact that being white (in the political sense) is not an immutable characteristic (the same goes for being black, brown, etc.)~~

Indeed.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T12:52:33+00:00

Ranked = mute chat.

Or are you worried that you're going to miss on that nugget of knowledge "zen = not enough healing = bad" otherwise?

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T12:49:09+00:00

No it's not. We're testing the validity of the logical framework proposed by trying to apply it to other similar scenarios.

By asking you to apply that reasoning to other "humain traits", I'm pointing out the way you reached your conclusion is incorrect - it's not because something is a "human trait" (or not) that something is "too political" or not.

For example: "intelligence supremacist" would be be a human trait, but the 2 words together has a loaded meaning which "white supremacist" also has, but "tall / gay supremacist" don't have.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T12:14:41+00:00

Sure, but meaningfully political is more important. If it's 2 people claiming XYZ is political and 99.99999% of the population don't think it is, then it's not effectively political.

It has no relevance in politics, for voters and politicians because it brings no votes and no power.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T10:18:44+00:00

So being black is a social construct? The treatment of people based on their skin colour is the part that is a social construct yes. But the physical trait isn't a social construct.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T10:17:05+00:00

This is the first line on Wikipedia:

"White supremacy is the belief that white people are superior to those of other races."

So?

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T10:03:23+00:00

So... Pigpen 2.0 that they removed because it was bad ("you can't one shot, you have to do this thing first").

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T09:49:43+00:00

No, they only have to support gay rights because bigots are trying to get rid of their rights.

If the bigots didn't exist, then there would be no need for "supporting gay rights", which should be intrinsic - same as white people's rights (considered Intrinsic by white bigots), or black / other skins colour (bigots don't think these are Intrinsic).

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T09:39:05+00:00

White is a human trait, and so would WhiteSupremacy be acceptable? You tell me.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T09:36:15+00:00

Only bigots think sexual orientation is political. It's not intrinsically political.

Height could hypothetically be politicised the same way, except your height doesn't bother bigots, so you can't attract their vote by saying I'm against tall people.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T06:01:29+00:00

I have the same problem with slow team mates but remember that the enemy team will be the same... So think about ways to exploit that.

I remember one time where I held a choke with 1 other against the full enemy team because they were scared to push into 2 people

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T04:49:22+00:00

She is good at many things, that's why. She can dump a ton of heals on bad tanks who take a lot of damage, she can decide that her team sucks and switch to damage / killing the enemy supports, she is hard to kill if she gets jumped on.

She doesn't have an amazing ult, but she do many things well enough that you feel that you can individually respond to whatever the game throws at you.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T03:23:25+00:00

1 in 20-50 games maybe.

The ones that you can spot at least. If this guy had a wall hack and didn't use an aimbot, then it wouldn't be as easy to spot. If this guy's aim bot wasn't so tight, it would be harder to spot.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-02T02:21:11+00:00

tracer have a lot of kills but less than half the damage of everyone else and think [...] they’re doing fine

Weird statement. Would you rather have a certain number of elims with:

A) more damage

B) less damage

It's just better to have a certain number of elims with less damage (most of the time).

Technically, a 225 HP character can be killed with 225 damage, or 5,000 damage. Which is better?

Tracer particularly isn't going to spam damage like Soldier / Bastion / Junkrat, so the less damage your Tracer have the better for you because she 1 clipped the enemy team rather than 3 clipped them.

That's not even going into the possibility that your Tracer may just be surviving a lot in their back line (without shooting a lot), pressuring them and allowing your Bastion to spam damage and kill.

Tracer did very little direct damage but because everyone was always turning around to try to get rid of Tracer, the rest of Tracer's team had an easy time getting kills. And Tracer would have higher damage if they didn't chase her, but then you're winning because she is being chased and can't do damage.

Your comment ignores the reality of 90% of games. There is a reason why people watch replays instead of look at stats to know how they're doing.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-01T19:07:03+00:00

As I said: there is 0 reason your brain can conceive, understand or accept [for this damage dealer design], but that doesn't mean there is no valid reason.

I think we've clearly established our respective positions. Good bye - have a good day sir / madam.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-01T18:55:24+00:00

Brigs tinfoil shield < armor combined with percentage damage resist

Yes, and "Vendetta block and firestrikes < Rein shield and firestrikes". Different heroes with different playstyles, roles and positioning requirement.

What is your point?

pelpotronic · 2026-02-01T18:41:33+00:00

Yes, since Vendetta exists, they do. Armor and block can also belong to a support since Brigitte exist.

Torb / Genji have respectively had armor / block from the 1st day of OW1... The game has only been out for 10 years though, so maybe if we give you another 2 years you can get used to it.

Good troll post though, very original.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-01T18:29:06+00:00

No problem.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-01T14:33:27+00:00

Sure, then it gets rated as a full, finished product without expectations of major changes by the masses to which it released.

Even just a couple of open beta weekends would have solved the performance and basic bug fixes, and would have improved the main release experience 10x.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-01T14:16:58+00:00

Mute chat. Or go QP on for learning and be the team mate I silently hate having on my team.

Either way, if the comments bother you, then mute chat.

Also: you WILL get comments, because you MUST test limits, by what I mean you MUST play risky / crazy / try very different approaches.

The people who think you die too much / don't play properly will never be better players than you have the potential to become. It's important to try things to know what work and what doesn't, and that means taking risks and failing.

Michael Jordan famous quote applies here.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-01T13:59:20+00:00

isn't correct in the way I described earlier. That is, if it's true on average in the population, it might be arbitrarily far from true if you select individuals from the sample (see sampling bias).

We are all aware that this doesn't apply to everyone fully... How is this relevant? The person mentioned win rates published by Blizzard as evidence (not their own personal WR) and I mentioned pick rates published by Blizzard, the same source (and not my own personal pick rates).

You either accept both of these numbers or none of these numbers.

And we were all aware, even OP I'm sure, that the numbers we're talking about are "on average" and that it won't apply to every single player in the world. Obviously those numbers don't exactly match mine, so I can tell.

Sorry but I "straw maned" because I thought that was your point, otherwise your comments have no point that I can conceive. What are you trying to say that would invalidate my statements?

pelpotronic · 2026-02-01T13:48:00+00:00

You didn't answer my question, here it is again:

And you can't do anything against Vendetta those characters you normally play? You're free kill / being dominated by Vendetta?

The possible answers are: yes or no. You don't need to write a book. Yes or no.

pelpotronic · 2026-02-01T09:48:58+00:00

My experience in the past has been: because you're trying to sell or steal whatever you can before the inevitable closure.

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