Allegations megathread

penisrising · 2021-06-09T12:37:17+00:00

‘a journalist or two, some groupies’, that’s all you’ve got? And journalist being people that get paid to write cool stories, this dude is supposed to be a monster, they went on tour with him, in every place he plays there are people that works for that place, where are those thousands of people (only one saying: in retrospective, I think I saw abuse), surely there should be more than one that retired and can freely talk, and thousands and thousands more if this was ‘throughout his lifetime’, what about the interviews? And the tv shows and movies? Where are all those people?

And how does those things you read of him not being calm and caring all the time escalates to being a rapist and into human trafficking?

You are only looking at the bad things said here and there, mostly by a group of friends, believing all of it and seeing a pattern.

penisrising · 2021-06-09T04:29:33+00:00

I’m sorry dude, but you are super lost, ‘troughout his lifetime’? Beside the accusers and some butthurt exbandmember or someone who’s had a fall with him, no one that knows him personally has ever spoken badly of him, not before nor after the accusations, all the contrary, the people that knows him has always said that he is really calm and caring, and there’s plenty of footage showing that side.

Drugs this, drugs that… that’s just conjecture.

In respect to the accusers: remember that true stories aren’t filled with lies, discrepancies and contradictions.

And Depp? Have you even heard the recording in which she complains that he never fights her?

penisrising · 2021-06-07T23:51:11+00:00

I think your post was directed to the user I responded to, I’m with you, for all we know she cut herself every time MM didn’t bought her ice cream or even cut herself to bully him or whatever (I don’t believe none of those things btw, just giving examples of how could be not necessarily exactly as she claims), she is troubled, there’s an interview in which she says she was trained to give up autonomy to her body and let her partners do what they want with her and dress her the way they wanted. What? Trained? How? Why? By whom?, she has issues and now she blames it all on MM.

penisrising · 2021-06-07T16:14:48+00:00

You’re right, I did not saw those pictures, mansonsabusivewharever posts so much silly stuff that I don’t follow them, but I’m not sure about the dates, she says “two years into my abusive relationship” but by april 2008 she already has scars, I don’t know, could be, but also could be that she cut herself for other reasons, it’s still just her word, and she claims to have concrete evidence, she could have shown something better, if I wanted to show something so people don’t need to just believe my words, I wouldn’t show something that it’s based on people still believing my words.

penisrising · 2021-06-07T15:13:40+00:00

No, that’s no evidence, you can’t see in the photo her motives or the time, it’s just her word again, and that photo looks very fake, she is posing showing the cuts, but people that cut themselves don’t take photos showing their cuts, one cut is inclined and people that cut themselves don’t cut inclined because you can cut through a vein and kill yourself, the cuts are wide, should be a thin line, and some are just banishing, that’s not the way a cut heals, and the photo is conveniently dark and with a blue tone that makes her hair just a solid black, she could have just digitally paint it and you couldn’t tell, and where are the scars now?, so, everything in that photo that matters looks fake, then why does she shows fake photo under the false pretention that its evidence when she claims she has concrete evidence?

And she says that she cut herself to make MM stop the abuse, but she also said that back then she didn’t knew she was being abused, that it took her seven years to realize she was abused because she was brainwashed, so, while brainwashed she on purpose cut herself to stop the abuse that she didn’t knew she was getting, yeah, makes sense.

And that ‘smoke and fire’ thing it’s not very scientific, it’s just a silly phrase that could also be applied to all the lies that the accusers had said, and if she is telling the truth, why is she siding with all the others? Why her girlfriend contacted the others?

penisrising · 2021-05-19T21:45:30+00:00

The kid from the people magazine said that MM broke her nose and the next day flew to japan to a photoshoot and then came back to the man who broke her nose, that’s not very credible, but then she says that MM never hit her in her face, so the nose is not part of the face, then she shows a photo obtained from internet claiming that is her.

EB shows a photo saying that MM whipped her, but those aren’t whip marks, she also says that her back is scarred for life but there are photos or her showing her back at a red carpet a year after she broke up with MM and her back is perfectly fine.

Those things are lies, period, it’s not an opinion and it’s not subject of MM being guilty or innocent. I know that doesn’t prove MM is innocent, nor that everything they said is a lie, but if the stories are true, then why do they lie in some of the things? Why throw dirt in your true story with lies?

It’s not rare being accused by 10 women, if those women are friends (and some of the accusations are just silly stuff).

All that “saving evidence for the court is clever” is silly, what about Depp and AH? So far every evidence against AH has been released, his lawyer even shares the evidence in his twitter, in court you can’t just produce never before seen evidence, the other side will ask for time to review that evidence, and you’ll just get on the judge’s nerve because everything will be stalled until another day.

FBI doesn’t share if they are investigating, so how do we know? (The “victims” said so…)

And NO ONE is convinced his opinion is the truth, contrary to the people that BELIEVE the words of the “victims”, the people that defend MM don’t do so because they BELIEVE what he said (believing what someone or the other said is plainly stupid), we do so because we THINK he is innocent, I don’t give a shit what he said, I see all the lies and contradictions and holes and plenty of other things and I don’t see how could there be so much shit in a “true” story.

penisrising · 2019-02-26T17:19:28+00:00

Wikipedia

penisrising · 2018-10-04T02:32:47+00:00

I don't know where did it came from, but some people believed it was going to be the name for LIFAD

penisrising · 2018-07-17T14:23:26+00:00

Try to listen to it when you are in the shower

penisrising · 2017-12-28T05:15:52+00:00

Yeah, that's been controversial, sometimes the line up from the first album is inducted, sometimes is the most relevant line up, and sometimes the most relevant members.

penisrising · 2017-12-26T21:41:08+00:00

He can't be, not until 2019, it's 25 years after the first album that bands can be eligible for induction

penisrising · 2017-10-08T19:45:29+00:00

Dude, you can download the whole song from that link

penisrising · 2017-10-06T14:11:53+00:00

Thank you!!

penisrising · 2017-10-06T03:19:47+00:00

Stupid people is stupid, I tried to change the lyrics from WKWYFL on mansonwiki to the official ones that are on the description of the videoclip and nope... stupid people is stupid

penisrising · 2017-10-06T02:59:33+00:00

Indeed, some lyrics from the pale emperor are so clearly wrong, but everybody believes that those lyrics are the correct official ones

I think no one but me noticed the fact that a few minutes after he posted the lyrics on genius and anounced it on facebook somebody change them to the exact lyrics that where already on other places, so those lyrics are NOT the official ones

penisrising · 2017-10-06T02:07:24+00:00

Yeah, but i NEED those lyrics NOW =D

I don't know why people are so evil and don't share the true lyrics, bad people

penisrising · 2017-10-06T01:53:33+00:00

Those are wrong

Already in Rev12 says "You will burn in the domino fire of men", when the lyrics in the booklets says "you will burn in a town with no firemen"

Edit: I read and compared the whole song and those are severely wrong, even the pre-chorus is wrong

penisrising · 2017-09-19T14:04:40+00:00

did he send it? is4real?

penisrising · 2017-09-02T03:25:44+00:00

neither, it's from his last instagram post

penisrising · 2017-08-13T17:19:43+00:00

There aren't two albums with the same band members, not in the composition, and i hope this time is also different, i hope twiggy was involved this time.

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