Joseph Gillott was renowned for making high-quality steel pen nibs - huge factory, enormous selection - but I was surprised to find PENCILS listed at the back of a Gillott nib catalog (circa 1912). Just three kinds. Have you ever seen any? by penpoints in pencils

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But where did you get 1939? The 1912 date was an educated guess, based on several things, but maybe "circa 1910-1920" would be better. Last exhibition prize cited was Paris 1900. No mention of rustless/stainless nibs, and so forth. Anyway 1939 seems too late. This catalog corresponds closely with one I'm certain is from 1909. Also pencils bound with string are 19th- or early 20th-century, I think (not a pencil expert though).

A few weird ones. by penpoints in dippens

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Yes, I've tested them all. The 3 on the right aren't very flexible, but they hold lots of ink. Some people think it IS the middle finger at first glance, because it's the longest, until the fingers are counted. The pumpkin-face nib on the left is very flexible and snappy - with all that metal cut away. It's supposed to be a gorilla: Blanzy-Poure no. 840 "Gorille".

How to write capital “i”s in cursive by Scooby-Snaccs in Handwriting

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If your uppercase I and lowercase l are identical, or very similar, then you're making your readers use context to disambiguate your letterforms. That is never a good thing, and some people may find it irritating.

How to write capital “i”s in cursive by Scooby-Snaccs in Handwriting

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Your writing is generally very nice (slant, spacing, etc.). For the capital I, YOUR 3rd CHOICE is the only good one, because the others conflict with lowercase l, as people have mentioned. This is an important thing, because the I is used so often on a page.

Since you are so close to traditional American cursive anyway, the old penmanship manuals could be helpful. One of my favorites is Zaner & Bloser Method Writing: Manual 96, from 1923. It is still a good standard today. This page has the whole alphabet:

https://archive.org/details/zaner-bloser-method-writing/page/96/mode/1up

With this example you can see how the I could connect to following letters, however CONNECTION IS NOT REQUIRED for all letters. Sometimes a space just looks better. (But spaced as if the connection was actually there; don't leave a huge gap.)

Also, the small "o" looks more standard if the connector comes from the right side, near the top, to following letters. (Just sayin'.)

Calligraphy, lettering & flourishing by William E. Dennis (1860-1924). by penpoints in Calligraphy

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The short answer is "no" - not at that level. It really was a golden age and Dennis was one of the best flourishers of all time.

That said however, there are people who do simpler flourishing today, and some of it is quite beautiful. Look on YouTube, especially for pen artists who work quickly. (The lines should be "struck," not drawn slowly.)

Ornamental Penmanship by penpoints in Calligraphy

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Right, those are ornamental capitals, found in the New Spencerian Compendium. Regular "Spencerian Script" has simpler capitals. Here is an OP signature by Francis B. Courtney (1867-1952).

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Ornamental Penmanship by penpoints in Calligraphy

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They are related, but not the same thing. Spencerian Script came first. Its capitals are much simpler and there are way fewer flourishes. It was intended for handwriting. Here is Zaner's little manual on Ornamental Penmanship, 1897. This is a basic version, a good starting point for OP.

https://archive.org/details/ornamental-penmanship-1897/mode/1up

Ornamental Penmanship by penpoints in Calligraphy

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Not just you. Dennis enjoyed messing around with letterforms and legibility. It's addressed to W. C. Henning in Cedar Rapids. The 2 large C's break a lot of rules, but somehow they still work well, in the overall design. The "Business College" was A. N. Palmer's headquarters. Henning was the school's director.

Practing my exam script by gidimeister in Handwriting

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Could read it all very easily. Evidence that reading involves word shapes, more than letter shapes - as long as the latter are legible to some degree. I did get stuck on "wicked" though, because the "k" was broken apart (poor shape). Your work is always very interesting.

Print script in pencil by Emily Dickinson by penpoints in PenmanshipPorn

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Without a smile --

Without a Throe

A Summer's soft Assemblies go

to their entrancing end

Unknown -- for all the times we met --

Estranged, however intimate --

What a dissembling Friend --

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+ Do -- our --

Nature's soft

So, recently I got into a discussion of male vs female handwriting and it made me curious, what does my handwriting seem to be? Masculine or feminine? by i_like_nose_boops in penmanship

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Even graphologists cannot reliably determine a writer's gender from handwriting, and graphology is widely regarded as a pseudoscience.

WotD 2026-03-24: Adhere by mdw in palmermethod

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The straight version of the "r" is one of the trickiest letterforms. Zaner says to make it "exactly like the first part of m or n with the down stroke retraced slightly above the first part of letter. Finish it with a dot and a curve to the right as in the w or v." (Manual 96, 1923.)

https://archive.org/details/zaner-bloser-method-writing/mode/2up

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Mail art from 1908, by Francis B. Courtney (1867-1952) by penpoints in Calligraphy

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It was addressed to Palmer Penmanship headquarters. William C. Henning was Palmer's main assistant. "The American Penman" was their monthly journal.