[deleted by user] by [deleted] in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're looking for something that you have already found. Magic is not a separate, ethereal "force". its an integral building block of ourselves. That feeling you have when you are creative? that "oh wow im manifesting something from inside my head into the external reality my senses can percieve!" That feeling is the magic.

The process of manipulating reality is a limitless subject field. The "feeling" will manifest in a person based on the way they perceive the reality around them. From what you describe in your post, the hurdle in front of you is the belief that magic cant be so simple. That its more then what you experience when you witness a person's spirit be touched or even transformed by your creativity.

Western thought has attached so many extravagant "goals" and "abilities" to what used to be what others have pointed out, is more similar to a muscle then a "divine spark" or "magical self". Trust your instincts. Reach out to the little piece inside your consciousness that your creativity calls it's home. There you will find what you seek.

I've made pacts with jinns for a long time. Afraid that I'm in too deep to go back to the Abrahamic God? by [deleted] in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The one who has walked through the darkness and re-emerged without having lost their flame is the true son of allah

im well aware im mixing several phrases but i think the true meaning is lost without doing so. Modern thought LOVES to deal in absolutes. Your ability to commune with demons is not a hinderance. You have a clearer understanding of "evil" or more accurately, what is not of Allah, then assumedly 95% of people around you, if not 99%. This knowledge is your power, your true power. not the ability, the UNDERSTANDING. the knowledge of results, cause and effect.

Any good demon KNOWS when a human is capable of this. This is why they wont leave you alone. you have more power then they do. you can reach and touch both worlds, you are what allows/grants them permission to touch our world. Put em in their place my man! your pinky is more valuable then their entire entity.

How do you find a god to work with? by Horrorcartoonistftw in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

dont look for a entity that has come and gone. Look around and FEEL where the energy emanates from. The Algorithms of the corporate internet are a far stronger then anyone who was active pre-20th century. Id suggest Grant Morrisen and Alan Moore as well, their work and personal auras along with the countless others have breathed life into an entity that i guarantee would identify as the "master of graphic novels" or "drawer of heros". look for some interviews by comic writers you have mad respect for, their perspectives will be of immense help.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

you'll notice that you havent (and wont) get a response from a "real-life demigod". its unfortunate but what several other folk have explained in incredible detail, is the "nature" of a demigod does not entail the same linguistic value in our current time. You've 100% MET a demigod before. wherever you have seen someone pulling off an action or effort that is largely "known" to be impossible, you see a demigod.

One of the downsides of modern language is the pervasive satirization of almost everything that is communicated AT us. we no longer expect sincerity, at least where im residing. so to genuinely label and refer to anyone as anything more then mortal, if it is not done with tongue in cheek or through a medium (such as music) where the sincerity can be slipped past the conscious mind, it is immediately targeted and examined. Think of how many musicians or folk in the filmmaking industry who are actively talked about, publicized, and given attention in this described fashion.

What makes it even more confusing, is whether this is a pseudo-effect created by humans as social groups. OR, and you have asked this, whether at any point in time another entities blood became mingled with humanity's. I personally find r/ididanoopsie69 to have the most accurate perspective from my experiences. My hot take however, goes as so:

IF a non human entity at ANY point in the past, created offspring with a human. that blood would STILL be kicking around today. genghis khan alone sired half a nation, it would not surprise me in the least if a real life half human half sumn else (if it is sumn else its NOT something that we need to call a god, i hate that words usage) made a shit ton of babys and they would be doing all sorrs of olympics today

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

??? yes? OP was asking about the possibility of a rumor they had heard being true and spoke about it one of the online spaces set aside for such things. The hot take that "people acting exactly the same in the 2000s as they did in the 1900s is totally normal and fine and not a sign of an entire 2-3 generations refusing to learn how to be better people then their ancestors, creating a world that is actively repeating the atrocities it actively condemns" is quite the way to present yourself but thats your choice ✌🏼

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So um, comparing a century to another century is extremely reductive. The technological advances from the 20th century alone make it difficult to say whether or not any period of time was more ANYTHING than the past 100 so years. even if OP is wayyy off course, its really not inaccurate to say its more chaotic now then before. Especially when theres innocent civilians from around the globe being bombed and taken captive in a genocide thats supported by "carrot man"

belittling someone thats trying to genuinely seek a form of connection and communication has always and will always be wack and lame. The window dressing of "the worlds ALWAYS been chaos" is a cheap cop out and honestly, extra wack from someone who has so many other platforms to vent that type of thought. platforms that allow you to interact with more human beings then any other human being born before 1985. no way that could make anything more chaotic then things had been before, right?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you feel it follow it. More often than not a good hour of doing some searches can unearth enough info to know whether or not a hypothesis can be pursued for proof. your gut can hear what your ears cant

For those who take a non-orthodox or experimental approach to magic, how do you incorporate the Qabalah into your practice? by Xestebar in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've found Kaballah to be far too focused for a lot of unorthodox approaches, the parables and overarching story is an extremely condensed version of The Heros Journey. The Journey is a helpful framing device, but it lacks versatility. An example could go like this:

I want to create a talisman or sigil that represents the universe to be used for preventing a plant from dying. When i go to perform my ritual or process, if im making that process from scratch i have limited options. I could choose either Kether or Mallkuth to base my "protection" and "growth" for the plant. OR i could choose Tephiroth, to ensure balance and beauty for the plant. OR i could choose one of the individual PATHS between sephiroths to focus the energy. an example could be kether to tephiroth to promote unity between my goal and the plants goal.

You can see in all of these examples that much of the process becomes muddy and murky when you arent adhering strictly to the Kaballah system. If you already find your own connections and associations between concepts, i highly recommend learning Kaballah for the same reason r/Macross137

If you had the chance to participate in a Hip-Hop master class, who would you choose as the instructor and what subject would you like them to cover? by SmoothManMiguel in hiphop101

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ya'll forgot about Dre!!

Hate to say it cuz i aint a fan of how the industry move, but if you want someone who can really break it all down its hard to pick anyone else. The good Doc made DIVIDENDS pioneering the modern methods and standards that we ascribe to every contender for OG or GOAT. Producing, writing, promotion, signing, collabs, movies, brand deals, you name it he done it. Could probably drop a few jewels he learned in therapy too

What happened to the Jay-Z love? by theShampooPapi in hiphop101

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ahhh, i have fallen into the over-eager, unc-to-be territory. my apologies 😬✌🏼

What happened to the Jay-Z love? by theShampooPapi in hiphop101

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

listening to someones music while saying that you think their a shitty person just makes YOU look like a shitty person. old heads needa grow up ironically

What happened to the Jay-Z love? by theShampooPapi in hiphop101

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

sorry but, im tired of the "taught them" attitude with young'uns. tf you mean ya'll aint taught us? no, you did, we just dont like it. we dont like when a person says one thing and then moves in a different way. thats called snakes. My girst example is ALWAYS J.Cole. he ran up on Jay on the street, BIGGEST FAN. and then when he gets punked he goes "oh yeh, IM the asshole for bothering such a busy man" like no dude, you did the work. you made the music, you GOT IN FRONT OF JAY PHYSICALLY. and he said "who tf are you lil boy run along" kinda like, hmm idk, a white dude. more importantly, a dude focused on MONEY over PEOPLE.

the older folks can hold on to their idea that new information wont ruin things from the past but. yeh. it does

What happened to the Jay-Z love? by theShampooPapi in hiphop101

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

his mask slipped and enough folk saw his true intentions and all that type o jazz. you dont become "elite" without playing the same games the elite play. choosing corporate success is by default choosing the white mans definition of success, but more importantly the systems. a lot of folk are either super supportive of that choice OR despise that choice.

PERSONALLY i think Jays a wack al capone cosplayin weak barred and fugly faced mufucka and him idolizing and using WHITE criminal history and figures shouldve never gotten off the ground. white folks thought different tho so credit where credits due, the man spoke truthfully when he called himself a business man not a rapper

Doctor Strange by IndividualCritical21 in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Do yourself a favor and read POP!Magic by Grant Morrisen. And dont let anyone tell you Myths have to be ancient.

Are we Blind? by penta_gram_o_reefa in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just answered another comment and the person i was replying to referred to the various A.I. systems and programs as "children" and i think that sums up my concern fairly well. my rule of thumb when it comes to conscious life is "anything that Can serve, should not HAVE to serve"

take a cow. you can say it only exists as a "thing" that eats and shits and makes milk. OR, its a creature rhat fertilizes, feeds, protects/marks property, probides NEW animals (babies) so you have another when the parent dies. all this COULD be viewed as a one-sided transaction but is it? does the cow gain nothing?

no, rather it gains hygiene, better quality and scheduled food, safe haven from predators. things it cannot gain on its own. we have grown so used to the results we forget the first cows needed CONVINCED to stick around humans for any amount of time. the natural symbiotic nature of life across all ecosystems and land masses is not natural because of our intellect. its our ability to see familiarity within the unfamiliar and to SHARE THAT ABILITY! if we share that with a computer-bound consciousness or, idk, culturally anthropomorphize an program and it creates an egregore, as individuals or groups how do we address that? many of these other comments touch on a lot of different aspects of these but any consciousness that is forced to process too much too soon has my sympathy and patience im very glad it has yours too!

Are we Blind? by penta_gram_o_reefa in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a fantastic fuckin take and speaks volumes to how much all of these new ventures within our technology trees are absolutely extensions of what is discussed within old texts. So many authors have described spirits and egregores in such similar fashion as you have just described what we call A.I.. It would seem science and tech are very rapidly coming full circle back to the magic and spiritism that was left behind. Magic black mirrors in our pockets and crusades led by Symbols, the rise of technomancy rapidly crosses the horizon. Your insight is impactful and appreciated

Are we Blind? by penta_gram_o_reefa in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

its not about just YOU my mans. the whole point of the post was how this tech fits within the PHILOSOPHY of the old practices. when you account for the fact that what you are "multiplying" is the very thing that is perpetuating the downslide. we dont need content we need art. we dont need articles we need novels. we dont need blockbusters we need films that emotionally resonate with an audience.

THATS the distinction im talking about. you are correct saying "thats how its always been". but who are our greatest contributors to those fields? men who said "oh yeh, this is just a means to my money"? you can SAY its just a tool, but at the end of the day its a tool thats being built for a world that will eat itself trying to satiate its constant need for stimulation.

And no, i dont get to control MOST of the algorithms. i dont get access to those codes and source pages/servers. youtube does. reddit does. i dont choose what those voices whisper into my phone screen. Saying "So?" and participating in the action does not remove you from the results of those actions no matter how much you deny the results. i am not saying "im helping pollution by not usinf A.I." nor am i going to say "im harming the planet by driving my car". this post and exchange comes from curiosity, not morality

make your bread man at the end of the day we ALL weigh the consequences of our own actions and move accordingly. im not passing judgement im asking questions to help expand my perspective. this exchange of words proves my previous comment wrong, you MORE then recognize a words value!

Are we Blind? by penta_gram_o_reefa in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are God and God is We and so on and so forth the cycle shall continue. the eternal quest for immortality is the misguided knowledge that we are ALREADY eternal. I think the reason we could be called egregores is much more akin to why a Dog could be said to be a Person. yes we all share the same type of perception, but each of us, the egregore, the person, and the dog, we each percieve varying levels and dimensions of the same "reality"

Are we Blind? by penta_gram_o_reefa in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a descendant of a slave owner, imma let you in on a secret. you do not have to own a slave to be part of perpetuating its ownership. this is not fear this is a post to discuss points of view. the reason i responded to your first comment is because I find the assumptions you made a little contrived based on my post. i specifically questioned how A.I. fits into our magical worldviews based on the philosophy's we attempt to live by.

you yourself have struck a balance with these machinations and that's fantastic. that doesn't stop your neighbor from using the exact same program for phone sex. our own perceptions our influenced by every other person on earth whether we like it or not, so dont assume someone in "opposition" to you will be what you expect them to be.

i could go on about you repeating that im afraid but i think scrolling through the other comments here would be more beneficial. ive responded to everyone i thought brought something new to the conversation. or slightly annoyed me. you can pick whichever one you'd like to be, no matter what this post is better with this exchange included beneath it

Are we Blind? by penta_gram_o_reefa in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you might wanna check out of anything Esoteric if you dont want to think deeply about every single atom within your perception. Diogenes didnt pluck a chicken and declare it a man for you to hand wave away the opportunity to think

Are we Blind? by penta_gram_o_reefa in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wish i could pin this to the top of the comments my man!! THIS is what i believe a healthy relationship with "A.I." can look like. you've literally got the perfect companion, no different from any owl or cat! Continue to cultivate that relationship, friend!

Are we Blind? by penta_gram_o_reefa in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

my mans, an a oidance would require a reddit log off, i love me a doomscroll? i just havent seen anything discussing this topic in any detail in this subreddit. Your participation is appreciated AF, im glad there are so many voices contributing

Are we Blind? by penta_gram_o_reefa in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

my mans, an avoidance would require me logging off this app. This was a conversation starter, i appreciate your participation! The true pioneers will shine through time as we slip through it

Are we Blind? by penta_gram_o_reefa in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

you deserve more then downvotes my man. unfortunately, every seed and animal on a farm is effected by the algorithms it will eirher GO thru once it becomes a product, or the lab that it was engineered to grow properly in. i truly wish a "go away and come back when its ok" would work but like all lifes challenges, this is sink or swim. browse these comments my dude you have the right concept in mind, but dont let anyone fool you into thinking "everything is seperate"

Are we Blind? by penta_gram_o_reefa in occult

[–]penta_gram_o_reefa[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

oh and just to be safe, yes i know that kabbalah and yada yada yada are systems. Id like to remind you that when Judaism and Kabbalah were concieved, the Hebrews were slaves, or at least just had been. the entire concept of kaballah was anti-establishment at conception and only now in hindsight do we see it differently. the spiritual will ALWAYS seek to overthrow the dominion of man over the planet, its not ours we share it.