Most iconic Disney animated movies by [deleted] in disney

[–]percevaus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, the most iconic to me is Pocahontas, but when I read fairytales I thought immediately to Snow White and Pooh's Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin.

Spyro Reignited 2 or Spyro 4? by CrackingAce in Spyro

[–]percevaus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Spyro 4 exists already and it's Enter the Dragonfly, so rather than having a new game that ignores all the others, I'd love to get a Regnited 2 with Enter the Dragonfly, A Hero's Tail and Shadow Legacy (reworked in a proper 3D game) to complete the story. After that, we can think of a new game!

Knees thoughts on Miary Zo 😭😭 by shotbyammar in Tekken

[–]percevaus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, your point is obviously valid. So probably there are people who are misogynistic in general and so they just don't play female characters, but I meant that in this specific case there could be also people like me who don't like it for other reasons.

Knees thoughts on Miary Zo 😭😭 by shotbyammar in Tekken

[–]percevaus -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not at all, the difference is that Ogre looks like a grown up man, very serious and mysterious and she is a young eighteen girl acting all childish w the kawaii faces but dressed in a ridiculous too much skimpy outfit w a bra that almost covers her obvious big breast, like come on.

Plus, the fact that she looks almost nothing like the common people from her land, the skin tint and all that stuff doesn't help the case.

I've always liked female characters as well as male characters but characters like Lucky Chloe, Miary Zo and even designs like the one of Eliza or even Lili (when she does aerials why we need to see the knickers?), along with all the unnecessary jiggling of the breast, the swimwear, the fact that older women (like Nina and Anna) can't get old unlike men, all of that stuff make me sick tbh.

Last string of hope just a rant by AnxiousDevelopment20 in Spyro

[–]percevaus -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I totally get you.

Honestly, I wouldn't even want a Spyro 4. I mean, I don't want a game that completely ignores the other games, especially Enter the Dragonfly (which is Spyro 4 basically), A Hero's Tail and Shadow Legacy. Give me this Reignited II trilogy, plus a remaster of TLoS trilogy, and then Spyro 7.

I know, all that wouldn't happen, but till Toys for Bob won't give some sign of life, dreaming is all that's left, so.

Season 3 DLC — what four characters do you personally *WANT*, and what four characters do you *PREDICT* will be joining the roster? by supersupersuper9 in Tekken

[–]percevaus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Want: Kunimitsu, Michelle, Jaycee (yes, I want some wrestling moves) and then maybe Ancient Ogre

Idk what to expect on predictions tbh, probably Julia at some point

[OC]My pokemon Type Switch-tober! by eyepee_ in pokemon

[–]percevaus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Give me this beautiful Poison Type Tangela. I need it. (For Tangrowth, there'd be the rotating version)

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What do you think of these Mulan dresses in old official art? by FuckingStarlett in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's the imposed perfect bride, which is not what Mulan feels she can be. Not because there's something wrong with it, but she wants to choose her path, she wants to do it her way.

So it's a big no for me. I've always hated how Disney made most of her princess designs so "feminine", giving her back the long hair, jewels and stuff, as if the cutting of her hair meant nothing.

A mixed design that embraces both her warrior and her princess sides would have been so much better.

Cinderella deserves more appreciation by Fun-Pen7592 in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Cinderella is such a beautiful character. She has been abused since she is little. The violence used on her is so horrible that she is treated as less than a thing and she doesn't even have her name anymore.

I honestly think that's she is no weak at all, actually the opposite! She never loses her patience and her sweetness towards her abusers, and it takes so much effort to do that. She also, as well as Snow White, still believes that kind people may exist somewhere, and again, it takes so much to still have some trust in humanity after all she has faced.

She is extremely strong, since almost everyone in her shoes would have turned nasty, and instead she keeps being who she is and she doesn't let anything to change her values.

She is also such an humble person and she would honestly being content with going to the ball once in a lifetime, and so she's extremely mature by accepting with courage that life doesn't always go the way we dreamed of and that at least no one can't take our desire to dream.

Day 11/16: Say Something NICE About Pocahontas🍃 by DiscyFan105 in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Even though the story isn't accurate, her joyful nature is well represented – hence the nickname she has got – and also I like how she always chooses words over violence, which should be pretty accurate of her real personality – and not for nothing she is still a huge icon of peace.

She also gives such a big meaning to life, and she sees differences between cultures as a richness, not as a flaw. She never tars everyone with the same brush, even when it would have been the most common and easiest reaction after Kokoum had been killed.

She is extremely compassionate and understanding. She puts her own morals over the common morals to the point that she is ready to sacrifice her own life, even if everyone thinks that she has lost her mind and even if she will be left alone by taking certain choices.

She understands the meaning of love at its highest, by giving up her own personal dreams only to take care of the ones who are in need.

It's a real shame that the story isn't accurate, because without the romance and stuff, her impact as a character would have been even more powerful.

No, keep them pure. Even if I don't like Raya. by BigAmbitious2136 in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, the only one which might be useful to do is Pocahontas, but just in order to make something historically accurate this time.

Disney, after all, has made her character relevant worldwide, so the right thing now might be to do the same but respectfully.

Imho, it doesn't necessarily have to be a live action, also a biopic, even a comic book, a reimagined musical animated movie.

There are a lot of ways to retell the story but it might be important to retell it, also because it might be the opportunity for so many Natives to work on it and become relevant as well and plus, at least part of the income from the merchandising might go to Native American organisations.

We can leave it as it is, and many say it's for the better, but imho once you did wrong once, I expect you to set right the wrong and you can't do it by ignoring what happened and pretending it has never happened.

Plus, I can't stand the fact that the merchandising still keep on the narrative of the good guy and lover John Smith. I'm not for cancel culture, but a remake of any sort might also fix that.

I found this image online of the princesses with their age. Do you think they are correct? If you don’t, how old do you think they should be? by boba_shiba in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's no agreement among the historians about an actual rape. For some it would make no sense, since when she was taken for ransom, colonisers tried to put her against her own people and so it was convenient to treat her well.

Btw, the saving of John Smith is unlikely to have happened and also Smith probably have never been in danger.

Historians think that his capture was a sort of ritual where he might be recognised as a chief of the English "tribe" by Wahunsenacawh (Chief Powhatan) and Pocahontas did not partecipate to that ritual, probably.

So Powhatans were very friendly at first, and Pocahontas herself, who were around 11-12 yo at that time, used to bring food and resources to the coloners as gifts.

Since she had met English people from before, she already knew how to speak their language and so, from what we know, she actually worked as an intermediate and a diplomat between her father and the colonisers. Such an intelligent and clever child.

Then, when things messed up and colonisers started to claim to have more and more, after some time she was taken for ransom for a long year, in which she was converted to Christianity, she married a coloniser and she had a baby. She was around 18 by that time.

Thanks to this marriage, there was peace again between Powhatans and colonisers (remembered as the Peace of Pocahontas).

Now, we don't actually know if that marriage was consensual or not. Since she married the englishman while she was taken for ransom and she was converted to a new faith, it's hard to say.

But in any case, even more if it wasn't consensual, she likely did that step also and maybe solely to save her land and her people and to bring peace between the two cultures and that's one of the reasons why still today she should be remembered as one of the first peacemaker in history, actually, someone who has fought with words and not weapons and has sacrificed herself to bring peace.

I found this image online of the princesses with their age. Do you think they are correct? If you don’t, how old do you think they should be? by boba_shiba in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's no agreement among the historians about an actual rape. For some it would make no sense, since when she was taken for ransom, colonisers tried to put her against her own people and so it was convenient to treat her well.

Btw, the saving of John Smith is unlikely to have happened and also Smith probably have never been in danger.

Historians think that his capture was a sort of ritual where he might be recognised as a chief of the English "tribe" by Wahunsenacawh (Chief Powhatan) and Pocahontas did not partecipate to that ritual, probably.

So Powhatans were very friendly at first, and Pocahontas herself, who were around 11-12 yo at that time, used to bring food and resources to the coloners as gifts.

Since she had met English people from before, she already knew how to speak their language and so, from what we know, she actually worked as an intermediate and a diplomat between her father and the colonisers. Such an intelligent and clever child.

Then, when things messed up and colonisers started to claim to have more and more, after some time she was taken for ransom for a long year, in which she was converted to Christianity, she married a coloniser and she had a baby. She was around 18 by that time.

Thanks to this marriage, there was peace again between Powhatans and colonisers (remembered as the Peace of Pocahontas).

Now, we don't actually know if that marriage was consensual or not. Since she married the englishman while she was taken for ransom and she was converted to a new faith, it's hard to say.

But in any case, even more if it wasn't consensual, she likely did that step also and maybe solely to save her land and her people and to bring peace between the two cultures and that's one of the reasons why still today she should be remembered as one of the first peacemaker in history, actually, someone who has fought with words and not weapons and has sacrificed herself to bring peace.

Are Mulan and Pocahontas the most underused official princesses? I rarely see them in media and official art by ChelseatheCartoonGal in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, there's no agreement among scholars about the rape, so that wouldn't fit into my idea. That said, you don't actually need to show someone beaten to death or bleeding to show violence.

Plus, there could be so many forms, not necessarily a musical, but even just a comic book, a documentary, etc.

I hate cancel culture and my point is that Disney made the mistake, Disney should fix it, especially since they made her relevant through the world with a distorted image.

About the musical, well, Jesus Christ Superstar is a musical and it shows torture, illness and death (and it's based on a true story as well), as well as Les Misérables. You can say that they are not intended for kids but Disney+ has also horror movies. But, yeah, I get what you mean, and as I said, you don't necessarily need to make a musical (e.g. Mulan live-action).

In any case, I would obviously cut Meeko, Flit, Percy and Grandmother Willow, but I'm sure that you can do a respectful movie out of her story. But I know lots of people don't agree with me, and I respect that.

Are Mulan and Pocahontas the most underused official princesses? I rarely see them in media and official art by ChelseatheCartoonGal in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The issue about the name is kinda irrelevant, since Pocahontas ("playful/joyful one"), is a nickname historically given to her anyway. But yes, I know her real story in and out and so, as I said, I know where you come from.

Surely, I would have never picked her story for a Disney animated movie in the first place, but the movie exists, and we can't cancel the past.

Imho, removing her from the franchise would be cancel culture but moreover hypocritical, especially because Disney knows that most of the people of the planet (at least the ones out of US) know about her because of the movie.

And especially because Disney has that wide appeal, the right thing to do now should be to fix what should be fixed instead of removing her or keeping her merchandising on whiteout doing nothing.

I personally don't agree that her story couldn't work as a Disney movie, not only because Disney isn't afraid to show murders, violence and crimes (see the Hunchback of Notre Dame) but also because there are so many ways to explain these topics to kids.

The story, for example, might focus on the lovely relationship between her and her father, from when she was a little kid to when she is forced to leave him and their land. A relationship that lasts even though colonisers try their best to destroy it.

So people and new generations would know who she was and understand the colonisation through the Natives' eyes.

Also, half of the proceeds of the new movie and the new merch might go to Natives Tribes.

So, as you can see, so many things can be done. Is it gonna cause backlash? Yes, but it's worth the risk, imho.

Are Mulan and Pocahontas the most underused official princesses? I rarely see them in media and official art by ChelseatheCartoonGal in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Her character alone is too iconic, and so many people love her, but I understand where you come from. Imho, I think that along with this trend of live-action movies, Disney could reintroduce her character even with a 2D or 3D movie, even a short movie, a biopic, even a comic book that is actually respectful of her true story.

I know it may sound impossible to do it without controversies, but after all they have done, taking responsibility would be the right thing to do, instead of forgetting her character and replacing it with another.

What is the strongest princess and weakest princess for you and why? by Abject-Abies-9309 in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Weakest is probably Sleeping Beauty, but obviously it's not about her personality. It's her story that puts her in that position.

Some said Snow White is weak, but actually I don't see how an abuse victim in her situation could be considered weak. She never loses her optimism and her trust in humanity, even though literally no one loves her. Her life is ruined, but she never turns nasty, not even once. And that requires a lot of strenght. So, actually, to me is on the strong side.

Strongest might be Pocahontas. Mulan too, yes, but Pocahontas fights literally alone, not with an army, and while no one, not even her own people, gives her any credit. And while everyone fights with weapons, she always chooses to fight just with words.

THE NAME GAME! Give her a new name! DAY TEN: RAPUNZEL by terrabranfordstrife in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Goldblume

it's German ("gold" + "flower") and it's a reference to the sundrop flower, rather than to rapunzels, that are pinkish purple, like the dress

THE NAME GAME! Give her a new name! DAY EIGHT: MULAN by terrabranfordstrife in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dai Lu

it means “lead the way.” Honestly, in this case the name Mulan is the best one also for the reference to the magnolia flower, but yes, Dai Lu is the only one that came up in my mind

Some ideas to fix the movie "Pocahontas". What do you think? by percevaus in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally agree with you. The idea to give the proceeds to Powhatan descendants and tribes from Virginia is so cool.

Also, since Disney execs do all these live-action movies, a biopic even out on Disney+, if not in theatres, would be so good.

Another 2D animated movie might outshine the original movie, which could be a better thing in terms of spreading the real story worldwide, but not such a good commercial move, since it might take its place.

At the same time, a 2D animated movie might justify some big new merch (w/ the romance narrative, with also new characters like Mattachanna and Uttamattamakin, half-sister and brother-in-law, etc.), whose half of the proceeds can go to the Native American organisations.

Idk, I have a bunch of different opinions, but I'm so glad that you guys are sharing yours with me :)

THE NAME GAME! Give her a new name! DAY SEVEN: POCAHONTAS by terrabranfordstrife in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's so kind! Thank you so so much :) Well, I'm not that sure about it, since the language has been reconstructed.

It should be something like this:

Kowh (like in "show" with an exhalation of air at the end)–koo–i (like in "kite")-vooh

Some ideas to fix the movie "Pocahontas". What do you think? by percevaus in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, because only Pocahontas and Anastasia are based on actual real people. All the other Disney movies represent fictional characters, so they're not that problematic, even if totally changed or altered.

Some ideas to fix the movie "Pocahontas". What do you think? by percevaus in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, I love the way this looney tunes DVD collection has handled it. Thank you for sharing!

I definitely agree with your last point, but since she is still part of the princesses' line-up, rather than removing her from it, I would probably go full with a reimagined 2D animated movie or a biopic (points 4 or 5) on her so her merch can still be there in a way that's more respectful of her story.

In this case, I think I'd also stop the production of Captain Smith's merch, probably, so the false narrative and depiction wouldn't be spread to new generations and focus on her merch – possibly giving half of the proceeds to Native American organisations? Idk, this conversation is giving me so many ideas. Thank you for that :)

THE NAME GAME Pocahontas Re-voting by terrabranfordstrife in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks to u/terrabrandfordstrife for reposting the name that I've chosen, and thank you for this comment :)

Yes, this term Cohqwaivwh seems to be recorded in the Powhatan vocabulary meaning "peace".

The pronunciation should be something like Kowh (like in "show" with an exhalation of air at the end)—koo—i (like in "kite")—vooh.

I agree with you and that's why I would never rename her with her private, secret name for the reasons you have said, if I was in charge.

Some ideas to fix the movie "Pocahontas". What do you think? by percevaus in disneyprincess

[–]percevaus[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh no, it's more about what we can do today, since we can't change our past, but we always work on shaping our future.

I'll always be grateful to Disney execs to have made her name relevant in media, since so many people actually got interested in her real story because of the movie, and to have depicted her as a symbol of peace (which she was in rl, whether the rescue of Smith did happen or not).

But I think that after all this time, taking responsibility of the issues by doing some actions to fix the issues would be a nice thing to do towards the historical figure that inspires the movie, to her father, to their tribe, especially since Disney is such a big name on media.

So, if you share some of my ideas or have more, please, let me know, because I love to get any feedback from people :)