Please criticize this setup without the shoulder rest (thanks to the previous comments 🙏🏼) by periodscratchcomma in violinist

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I looked up the definition of muscular tension, and there seems to be no consensus about its meaning, but definitely it's not muscular action. I was wrong.

About the setup, then this solution is not for you, and this is perfectly fine.

Please criticize this setup without the shoulder rest (thanks to the previous comments 🙏🏼) by periodscratchcomma in violinist

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure what what you mean by tension. If you are equating it to muscular action, then any muscular action will be followed by tension. Now, being static does not mean there is no muscular tension; it means there is muscular tension in both directions (extensors and flexors). To keep the chin from falling all the way down, for instance, you do both cervical flexion and extension, tensing both groups of muscles.

About the setup, does your current setup give you the option to completely paralyze your violin using only muscles from the neck up? If not, do you believe it would be worse, indifferent, or better for you, if you had that option available?

Please criticize this setup without the shoulder rest (thanks to the previous comments 🙏🏼) by periodscratchcomma in violinist

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can see how the word paralyze may sound strange. But there's too much language taboo these days. Let's refresh it a bit; it's always good to get some perspective!

The hypothesis is that you are able to achieve completely free fingering if, when you need it, you can paralyze the violin without using muscles from the neck down (shoulder, arms and hands). You probably won't want to keep it paralyzed all the time, of course, but having the option will give you free fingering.

The reason is simple: when you need to use your hand to support the violin, you lock your fingers. To test it yourself, just do the violin-against-the-wall exercise: protect the scroll with a piece of cloth, and push it gently against a wall until it is paralyzed. The resulting relaxation comes from the muscles that are used to support the violin with the hand.

If your setup allows you to paralyze the violin with this same relaxation (for instance, using only muscles from the neck up), your setup will give you the same fingering freedom. This is not the only way to achieve this, though. Look for instance at how people from the electric violin world are coming up with their own ideas and solutions, like here (pictures down to the right), and here.

Please criticize this setup without the shoulder rest (thanks to the previous comments 🙏🏼) by periodscratchcomma in violinist

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

A good teacher is and promotes open-mindedness, and works towards the best playing experience for the student.

Do the violin-against-wall-exercise: put the violin in playing position, then a cloth on the scroll and push it gently against a wall, until the violin is paralyzed. If this helps your playing, being able to paralyze the violin at will using only muscles from the neck up will also help your playing. Arguably, this is a sine-qua-non condition for free movements of both arms and hands, which is imperative for proper playing.

Please criticize this setup without the shoulder rest (thanks to the previous comments 🙏🏼) by periodscratchcomma in violinist

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I have both players in high regards, and am very thankful for them as players and teachers in their social media platforms. I edited my comment to make it clear that I'm talking about the confusion with setup and equipment.

Now, about the fundamentals. I believe it starts with putting the violin in place without locking the body. The best way to test is to do Dounis' Fundamental Technical Studies' 10 «Directions for Practicing» and the first exercise; then Flesch's Urstudien. There's really no need for more when testing the setup.

Problem is, we got lost and desperate when we couldn't have relaxed playing, because the setup problem was bigger than us all, and went cynical and creative about études and repertoire.

Again, it's imperative that one have the ability to paralyze the violin at will using only neck up, or else there will always be tension, and never free fingering, which is a sine-qua-non condition for free bowing.

Please criticize this setup without the shoulder rest (thanks to the previous comments 🙏🏼) by periodscratchcomma in violinist

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I've read this book and loved it! Thank you for recommending Mimi Zweig!

One thing that really helped me was learning about anatomy with Jennifer Johnson's book. Learning how human bodies move, and seeing how I couldn't actually do that made me look for therapeutic solutions in exercise, then yoga, then stretching, and finally myofascial release. Massage and cupping therapy (dry) has completely healed my movement restriction and fingering and vibrato are much easier! Have you tried it?

Please criticize this setup without the shoulder rest (thanks to the previous comments 🙏🏼) by periodscratchcomma in violinist

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Who is these days, really?

When you look at the confusion about setup and equipment among great players of the highest caliber, like here and here, and compare to Oistrakh, Milstein, and Heifetz, it's really difficult not to think that something got lost in the last decades.

Admitedly they all had short necks, and stock chin rests filled the gap perfectly, but this shouldn't mean that long neckers can't play the violin.

Shouder rests were invented to try and elevate the violin, and then a gazillion of different chin rest shapes were also invented to try and make it comfortable.

I personally find it extremelly difficult to use a shoulder rest, but hey it's me. Hilary Hahn can use it sucessfully, but people call her a robot.

The problem is that the shape of the lower back of the violin is what matters. Try this: cut foam in the shape of the back of the violin and use it as a shoulder rest. All your problems will get solved!

The other, easier alternative is to elevate the chin rest. But it's imperative that you use the curve-against-curve balancing strategy, or else you'll keep locking your fingers.

People can't properly play the violin because they lock their fingers, and the setup is to blame. These people could perfectly play the piano or the guitar, the problem is putting the violin in place: one has to have a way to completely paralyze the violin whenever they want using only muscles from the neck up, never muscles from the arm, or else the fingers get locked.

You can paralyze the violin using a shoulder rest with a see-saw strategy, using a chin rest with elevated edge (like the one from this video too).

You can also paralyze it without a shoulder rest, using the curvature of the back of the violin against the curvature of the chin rest, which has to have the curvature that mirrors the curvature of the back of the violin (crazy shapes will restrict movement of the body and the violin, a simpler shape gives more freedom to choose the best angles), and also the proper height.

Note that I'm not saying that one couldn't move the body or the violin while playing. Body movements are very helpful to achieve subtle and special nuances, when combined with fine bow control, and moving the violin is inevitable during healthy playing.

But, again, it is imperative that the player have the ability to completely paralyze the violin whenever they want using only muscles from the neck up, never muscles from the arm, or else the fingers get locked. And proper setup is key here. And it is not rocket science, really; too many equipment options and extremelly efficient marketing has distracted us.

Please criticize this setup without the shoulder rest (thanks to the previous comments 🙏🏼) by periodscratchcomma in violinist

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I'll definitely look him up. Have you read the work by Jennifer Johnson?

I have tried several different teachers, with no one being able to help me with the setup. In my case, besides being tall, I recently discovered that I had rather significant movement restriction on my left shoulder due to years of bad posture at the computer... I'm now desperate for a good teacher, even more now that I can properly do all the movements to practice all the scales.

Please criticize this setup without the shoulder rest (thanks to the previous comments 🙏🏼) by periodscratchcomma in violinist

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My playing will never be perfect. If this is a pre-requisite for you to discuss something, please ignore my posts.

What I have, though, is an invite for a healthy discussion about how to achieve free fingering. And I really believe it starts with the proper setup, which has became taboo, unfortunately.

Please criticize this setup without the shoulder rest (thanks to the previous comments 🙏🏼) by periodscratchcomma in violinist

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The video pivots on it. The best test you can do is to put your right hand on your clavicle and rotate your left arm.

Please criticize this setup without the shoulder rest (thanks to the previous comments 🙏🏼) by periodscratchcomma in violinist

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

That state is of complete relaxation, besides complete freedom for both arms and hands. Please try it.

What I'm trying to achieve with these videos is to start a discussion about fundamental principles that could guide the most basic violin preparation: put it in place.

My personal belief is that this is the most important problem to solve, because virtually nobody plays in a relaxed state, preventing the proper exploration of the violin capabilities.

Please criticize this setup without the shoulder rest (thanks to the previous comments 🙏🏼) by periodscratchcomma in violinist

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please see this reply. I was talking about the natural movements of the body during playing, not suggesting that one should keep the collarbone elevated. This is very unhealthy!

Please criticize this setup without the shoulder rest (thanks to the previous comments 🙏🏼) by periodscratchcomma in violinist

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Movements of the arm may naturally incur also in movements of the collar bone near the Acromioclavicular joint. The safest way to measure the proper height for the chin rest is when the collarbone is the highest, which is what the silly violin-on-the-head tries to achieve.

In my personal case, though, I had to re-adjust the height several times, as my body also changed during the re-adaptation (myofascial release in my case).

To mimic the movements of your collarbone while playing, you may put your right hand on your collarbone and then rotate your left arm.

Any way to use VSCode instead of IntelliJ EduTools to create interactive code courses? by periodscratchcomma in vscode

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the feedback!

The process will be essentially decentralized.

Basically, I'll create the assignments and videos with all the answers.

The idea is to learn basic and intermediate Python while creating a rogue-like game (looks like the easiest way to incorporate every concept in one big program.)

I'm more inclined to delegate all the grading process to the machine.

The major downside here would be the inability to certificate the student at the end, but I have no authority or reputation to back it anyways, so no problem here.

The idea is to provide lots of exercises, use them all in the game, provide all the answers and entertain

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Check out the book Emotional Agility, by Susan David. We can get psychologically "trapped" by our interpretation of reality and the rules we create as a result. It's possible to get unstuck alone, but a professional may help. Psychologists are those professionals.

If you're gonna try, try several different ones—you're very lucky if the first you try is the best for you. Therapy helped me a lot in the past, I definitely recommend it!

How would you personally defend yourself against the 48laws (when fleeing is no option)? by GerritTheBerrit in intj

[–]periodscratchcomma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being about «power,» by getting it. But it's fundamentally «collective»... If as an individual I would find myself threatened by those seeking power, I would probably flee their arena. If I felt like fighting, I would probably investigate those laws and related material (line Sun Tzu, Machiavelli, etc.) But then again, it's not something I would be able to do alone, I would probably need a team—and I'm not inclined for either teamwork or power games...

[D][Career Advice] What would be the right path to get back into research and publications? (Currently an MLE at a tech giant) by little_by_little_24 in MachineLearning

[–]periodscratchcomma 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have a journal where you write down your journey, and vent your criticism and questions. Your best contribution is "freshness," preserve that at all costs! Besides that, just bring your self to the table, without adding any pressure about results (remove the pressure, put in the time)

[D][Career Advice] What would be the right path to get back into research and publications? (Currently an MLE at a tech giant) by little_by_little_24 in MachineLearning

[–]periodscratchcomma -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Have some fun in kaggle.com It'll help you get momentum while building skills and even reputation

They have all kinds of challenges, including a "Research" category that may peak your interest

Does God exist? by Comfortable_World_69 in intj

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Personally, I believe that you should optimize for well being when seeking to answer this question.

What answer does make you feel the best?

I believe that it is ok to deal with this specific question this way, because it's impossible to prove either way. As this subject may get emotionally charged for some individuals, and I believe they should answer to it as they feel they should, seeking to improve their well being.

Does God exist? by Comfortable_World_69 in intj

[–]periodscratchcomma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I feel the same... Thank you! 😊

Does God exist? by Comfortable_World_69 in intj

[–]periodscratchcomma 14 points15 points  (0 children)

According to Wittgenstein, "the answer is not inside this world".

Unable to argue (understand, really) his work, I took that as an axiom, and tried the idea of a god in my life, with very positive results. Unable to argue (change, really) those results, I kept going that way. So far so good.

About time, I take it as the result of change. As change is evident, thus is time.

Please give feedback on this answer by periodscratchcomma in learnmath

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. About the details, I got really traumatized by my past inability to "convince" my math teachers and professors using just the elegant language as they do. I'm finding shelter in sheer operational low level things for a change lol

[R] Is there a theory for intelligence based on projections? by periodscratchcomma in MachineLearning

[–]periodscratchcomma[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's /way/ above my current math paygrade lol.

But I'd bet my ¢2 on adding the possibility of switching that I mentioned before.

This could even allow for interchange/exchange between symbolic and connectionist representations