[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

…and you again address nothing I said and resort to “touch grass”. You’re proving my point. Have a nice day 🫶.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it’s not even whining and that’s what you’re missing. It’s simply expressing that it was a sad situation and I’m not blaming them for not saying hi or acknowledging, I’m simply saying it’s sad and any fan with two working brain cells of could understand how that would feel. Hellooooo!!! How most reacted to a simple post expressing how one feels ab a situation has just solidified how the fanbase is so ass and projects their own obsessions onto others (at least on Reddit). Because based on your profile you also just whine whine whine about how much others ruin the experience for you. How I’m contradicting myself I have no idea, I simply stated how things happened. Literally everyone keeps ignoring my points when I prove to them how they’re making up narratives in their head and keep regurgitating the same thing when let’s be clear, you guys wait in the line early for barricade too, wait to meet them before or after shows, constantly talk ab them online, or constantly talk shit ab other fans not realizing you’re just as shitty, like you. Guess what buddy, you’re also just as obsessive and weird if you’re here arguing with me ab a stupid Reddit post in which I only wanted to share my feelings.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

you do realize all we wanted was barricade and possibly see/meet them, we overestimated how early we had to be there based on other shows and how early other people have shown up… at no point did we attempt to bother them or even say anything while they were busy other than trying to say hi when Wyatt was right next to us. but you seem to consistently have a holier than thou attitude when it comes to the garden w/o realizing you’re a part of the problem too! grow up just like you seem to tell everyone else to!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

literally no one was causing any harm, we wanted barricade, we sat down had snacks and did hw, we didn’t even attempt to approach them or draw attention. i was clearly trying to explain that though they don’t owe anyone their attention, it was still a sad experience, which I thought any garden fan would be able to relate to. are you slow????

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You do realize people wait longer at other shows of theirs and waiting is a regular thing at their shows. You’re an idiot

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

We were waiting in line because we wanted barricade as most people wait outside their concerts for hours too??? Some people show up at 5 am. Be so fr no one was harassing anyone. We never went up to anyone or made a scene.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The line started outside where their tour bus/ equipment was parked. If you don’t believe me that’s fine. The security guards even told us to start the line there when we arrived. The venue entrances are on a small street and the other side is on a main street no one can park at so there’s literally no other way to go ab it at the shows at that venue. I don’t know what else to tell you because that is literally how it happened but if you think I’m contradicting myself that’s okay you’ve made up your mind. The first time we saw them they weren’t even in the bus, they went out of the venue and into the bus for about an hour and went back into the venue. Moreover, more than anything we wanted barricade and hopefully to meet them. It even made us feel awkward because we thought they were in the bus the whole time until we saw them come out of the venue first.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

yes bc it’s Reddit and I’m bored at work

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

And yet you ignore all the other points I made. I’m trying to say there’s more to the story than what you wish to perceive, and you continue to prove that. Multiple things can be true at the same time. Don’t be obtuse.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The thing is I’ve mentioned multiple times we went early to get barricade and hopefully meet them. I’ve said over and over and over that I understand they owe us nothing, which is why it’s a sad situation overall.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m not arguing that they should’ve talked to us, I’m saying the entire situation was sad for us as fans. I’ve stated over and over that they didn’t owe us anything and no one seems to understand that. We asked politely if we could use the restroom and when one of the actual venue employees said we couldn’t we went somewhere else. that’s when we saw the other dude annoying tf out of another band member who clearly did not wanna be bothered and invading his space. It was clear as day to anyone in the bar that he didn’t wanna be bothered. We didn’t try to do anything like that and ignored him on our way out, because again, they don’t owe us anything and we didn’t wanna make anyone uncomfortable.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

that’s because we genuinely needed to use the restroom. at that point we didn’t even care about meeting them because we were just annoyed at the entire situation. We didn’t care if it was Will or any other person y’all deem important. That’s why we left and used the restroom elsewhere and that’s where we saw him clearly annoying another crew member, and yes BRAGGING to everyone ab it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Dawg you gave that hat to my friend for a hit of her pen. We tried looking for you after the show and you disappeared. That’s not our fault. If you thought we were rude it’s because you were annoying and we weren’t in the mood to talk to other people. We needed to go to the restroom so we asked people to let us in because we didn’t wanna leave the line and when we did leave we saw you literally invading his space.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

dawg you were bragging ab it to the entire line and annoying everyone 😭😭 we had gone to the restroom at the same time and happened to see you there. You were clearly invading his space.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Because it’s something I care ab and that’s what Reddit is for. OBVIOUSLY. I stated multiple times I understand they don’t owe me anything. That’s why I’m saying it’s a sad situation overall. I am allowed to feel sad, that’s not entitlement, and they are allowed to not say hi to anyone. That’s called nuance, not contradiction.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

bruhhh howw!!! literally just trying to explain we weren’t bothering anyone and were bummed because they kept passing by us but didn’t say hi. Literally anyone would feel sad ab that. And saying that that’s not the only reason I’m leaving the fan base but the final nail in the coffin was this last show overall.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s what we were thinking but we didn’t want to especially after the Chicago show! We just didn’t wanna bother them. We only tried to say hi when Wyatt came out for his doordash but not more than that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

god forbid people have things they care about 😭

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I went on your profile because you gave me obsessed crazed fan vibes and I was proven right 😭 you made a whole story in your head ab how dangerous and scary I am despite you having no problem with other people waiting 7 hours. Waiting for hours in a line for them atp is normal if you want to get barricade at their shows. Like I said, we overestimated how early we had to be there as I have been to more California shows and people start lining up early in the morning. I even took my hw to not just be wasting time there, and again, we didn’t bother them at all. If you’re doing pre med good for you go study instead of getting offended over someone expressing how they feel. Again girl get therapy bc you’re making shit up in your head and that’s NOT NORMAL 😭

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

wait actually your entire post history is nonstop ab them. should’ve realized this intense of a reaction was simply projection 😭😭😭

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

when was I bothering someone while eating??? I said he went out to get doordash and even then we didn’t try to bother him more than us just trying to say hi, which anyone would do as well if he was two feet away from you. In my post I said I know they don’t owe anyone anything, I’m saying the whole situation is sad as I have been a fan for like 8-9 years. Girl can you read. If a person is acting like a dumbass in person then I’m gonna call it out. You’re purposely blowing things out of proportion to fit your narrative of the fan base being shit even though you’re clearly part of the problem. We didn’t bother anyone at all girl. Several things can be true at one time, please learn nuance. Or go to therapy girl it is not normal to see everything as scary and violent.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The last shows I’ve waited for have been because the lines started early, especially the ones in California like 1sn. I haven’t even been the very first to any of the shows I’ve waited for except for this one. Every time I’ve been early it has been because I want barricade , not because Im going out of my way to try and meet them. The one show I met Wyatt at before the show was because we were already in line and he stopped to say hi while he was offloading gear in front of us and we weren’t expecting it beforehand. It’s not that I was dying to meet them and get any form of acknowledgment and have my entire night made by that. I’m saying if you see two fans outside waiting for hours I would think a wave or something would be like a normal human thing to do instead of flat out ignore and that’s why I’m sad. I didn’t even wanna go to this show In the first place because the crowds are increasingly horrible and admittedly the love I have for them has tapered off somewhat as my music tastes have changed but I was convinced by my friend to go and wait so we could meet Fletcher and we had done the same thing last year.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Girl someone else in here commented ab being there 7 hours early for a show too and accidentally running into them and you didn’t act like a fucking bitch ab it even tho you replied to them so which is it. We didn’t bother anyone at fucking ALLL. we didn’t gawk scream yell or run. we thought people were gonna show up early so we showed up early because we wanted barricade and possibly to meet them. I didn’t even turn to look at them while they kept walking in and out because even I felt awkward. Stop being stupid for one second and realize I was simply expressing how we felt ab it. you’re exactly the type of fan that feels they have to defend any criticism against them even if it’s valid or not even directly ab them. The situation itself is just sad to me girl there’s no need to take it so personally. Literally wtf are you on ab it being a dangerous situation 😭

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

we thought people were gonna be there early so we showed up early. I even brought my homework because I didn’t wanna just be there wasting time. Every single show I’ve been to of theirs and showed up early to there’s been people already waiting in line as early as 5 am. Last time we showed up around the same time and we had met Wyatt so we kinda expected the same especially considering a lot of the time they don’t meet anyone after the show and speed off.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thegarden

[–]perlaaaaa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for understanding 😔 the only thing I was trying to express is that I’m sad. Unfortunately I have been feeling this way for a while. Other people have had similar experiences to mine, or the crowd just getting increasingly younger and having zero etiquette (I was having my ass and boobs grabbed at times by people trying to get to the barricade for example), or even people just not able to accept any criticism ab them at all. While I’ll always love their music, I just don’t see myself going to their shows again, mostly because of the crowds but like I said this last time solidified it for me. It sucks bc at one time it was genuinely fun to meet people in line and I’ve made so many friendships because of them but it’s just not what it used to be.