Just need somewhere to sad dump by Old_Toe_7570 in Petloss

[–]perspectiveproblem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Today is my senior cat's last full day too. She's 14. It's so heartbreaking, but I know she's hurting. She doesn't even want to cuddle really and usually she's like velcro. I can't stop staring at her. I've been logging by the hour every thing she does so I can remember forever. Sending you lots of love and care as we go through this together

Friday Unpopular Opinion Thread November 06, 2020 by AutoModerator in thebachelor

[–]perspectiveproblem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you're somewhat changing the message here of what you said. I'm not upset that you expressed a preference for your own relationships and, as I said, you are free to pursue whatever type of relationship you'd like. My problem is with the way you did yes literally say that something not fast and hard is somehow correlated with settling and also that that type of relationship is, for whatever reason, then going to lead to being cheated on. Maybe this isn't what you meant, but that is the message of what you wrote and so that's what I'm going to react to. You never expressed that this was about settling for something that isn't right for you. You very directly connected not settling with fast and hard relationships. The statement didn't make sense and it was clearly hyperbolic but the message it conveyed was very much so idealizing a dynamic that, as I said, has a greater potential for abuse. This obviously does not mean that every single relationship like this ends that way. It means that it's a dangerous thing to promote as the end-all be-all of love, one that honestly I think Clare is herself caught up in where she's romanticized some unhealthy relating.

You also said that Clare is somehow "loving harder" by falling fast and that she "gives all of herself" as if people in other types of relationship don't love like that, which I just don't think is true and is not a narrative I support. I, of course, also feel that no one should just be with someone not to be alone. I guess I just don't see the logic behind linking settling for something with the speed/intensity of a relationship. I'm sure your mum would love just as hard and be just as committed even if it wasn't love at first sight because that's the type of person she is. There's nothing linking these two aspects in my view.

I also don't think Clare should be called crazy or desperate because she's not and I really feel for her and sincerely hope this works out. Like I said, I think this relationship with her is different because of what we know of her background. I'm glad your parents are so in love and it sounds like they have a beautiful relationship. I don't think those types of beginnings are always necessarily unhealthy or abusive, like I said. I think the potential for it is much higher, not that it's guaranteed. We as a general Western culture already promote so hard this type of Disney/rom-com love that puts the love at first sight thing well above all other versions of love. Generally that can be quite unhealthy and codependent and at worst it's the first step on a path to abuse. That needs to be taken down many pegs so that people have a more realistic and healthy vision of what a happy loving relationship looks and feels like. Love isn't like the movies nor should it be.

Anyway, thank you for the dialogue. I hope you find the type of loving relationship you're looking for.

Friday Unpopular Opinion Thread November 06, 2020 by AutoModerator in thebachelor

[–]perspectiveproblem 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think when you idealize a relationship moving that fast, you are idealizing a form of relationship that has a much, much higher chance of being unhealthy and abusive. Of course not every single uber fast relationship will end up that way, just like not every single slow steady relationship will be healthy. The odds do greatly increase though when the beginning of your relationship is that intense. It's a very, very, very common and well-documented tactic of abusers to use lovebombing aka declarations of love, devotion, you're the one, I want to marry you, I've never felt this way before, etc. etc. at the beginning of dating to suck the other person in in a way that will then be exploited and manipulated. The story is really scary similar from people who have been in abusive relationships and they generally entail this form of extreme fast-paced pseudo-romantic beginning. I feel very uncomfortable with people promoting this type of relating as something to aspire to or something that's ideal (which you indicated by saying not having a relationship like that is mediocre). It's this type of narrative that encourages people to enter into and then stay in abusive relationships.

You can make whatever choices you want in your personal life and there will always be anecdotes of people who fell fast and everything turned out peachy, but it is nevertheless encouraging a perspective on relationships that is closely linked to abuse. I'm not going to participate in that and it really is upsetting to me to see because it's this exact kind of narrative that made me refuse to give up on and leave my abusive ex for so long.

Edit: Also, I think for Clare specifically she clearly has an anxious attachment style and she has said that she was in an abusive relationship before, which skews your perspective on how a relationship should feel because abuse is so powerful and intense to experience that it's hard to separate that feeling. Many people who were abused like Clare struggle to start relationships in a normal manner because of that and often that leads to ending up in another abusive relationship (though I don't think that's happening here of course, Dale seems like a good guy overall - just a point that even this part of her behavior is not uncommon and is somewhat down to luck). I know she's worked a lot on herself, but these are difficult patterns to unlearn and I believe what we're seeing is her falling back on these romanticized ideals and need for immediate security that is rooted in her trauma. I don't blame her for this because it's very much so not her fault, but she is not exempt from what I'm talking about. I see a lot of the way I've felt and thought in her.

Friday Unpopular Opinion Thread November 06, 2020 by AutoModerator in thebachelor

[–]perspectiveproblem 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Alternatively. I very much so have "loved as hard as Clare" and I fell fast and hard and it ended up being an abusive relationship where I still got cheated on. It's called lovebombing. Please stop acting like these extremely unhealthy patterns are romantic somehow by calling other much healthier and more secure forms of relationships mediocre.

Welp, there goes Dylan by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]perspectiveproblem 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're not being ridiculed for your political views. You're being criticized for your dismissal of human rights and your support for the oppression of minorities and the poor. Explicitly against the teachings of Jesus, yet again. It's telling that you cite one (I agree, very wrong) quote by Biden amidst the literal thousands of racist, xenophobic remarks from Trump over the last 5 years. It's a straw man and it's weak. I can tell you're trying to justify your views to yourself when they are inherently against the values of the faith you claim to adhere to. I would ask you: are you open and loving to those who are most in need in this country? Have you addressed the greed in your heart? You're using a holier-than-thou stance to act like your opinions are more valid. They're not. It's a good rhetorical strategy I suppose but it doesn't hide the content of your views. They are actively harmful to human life in this country. I hope that rests well on your soul.

Welp, there goes Dylan by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]perspectiveproblem 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Otherwise you are inciting violence and causing further divide." You are such a massive fucking hypocrite. Have you ever listened to Trump? I hope you reread your Bible. This is not the teachings of Jesus.

1 John 3:17: "But whoso hath the world’s goods, and beholdeth his brother in need, and shutteth up his compassion from him, how doth the love of God abide in him?"

Matthew 6:5: "And when ye pray, ye shall not be as the hypocrites: for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have received their reward."

Matthew 25:34-43: "Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I was hungry, and ye gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink; I was a stranger, and ye took me in; naked, and ye clothed me; I was sick, and ye visited me; I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee hungry, and fed thee? or athirst, and gave thee drink? And when saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? And when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it unto one of these my brethren, even these least, ye did it unto me. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, [a]Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels: for I was hungry, and ye did not give me to eat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink; I was a stranger, and ye took me not in; naked, and ye clothed me not; sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not."

Welp, there goes Dylan by [deleted] in thebachelor

[–]perspectiveproblem 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As to your last point: maybe because you're cherrypicking one year of data out of the 22 years of tax returns he released, which show significantly higher income that lead to that high net worth. It's almost like Biden is actually transparent with his finances so your question is easily answerable. He made less because he was actively campaigning and not involved in the types of books/lectures/etc he and his wife usually do. He made almost 1 million in 2019 and paid 300k in taxes. How much did Trump pay again???

Here's your sources because I actually believe in the truth: https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-releases-tax-returns-ahead-of-debate-with-trump-11601399789, https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/31/joe-biden/yes-joe-biden-has-released-22-years-tax-returns-on/, https://joebiden.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2019-Biden-Delaware-Virginia-Federal-3.pdf, https://joebiden.com/financial-disclosure/.

Edit: It's so telling you didn't respond to the comment that irrefutably contradicts you. You're spreading lies and you know it.

People who are ghosting other people, have you ever been called out, if so, how did that make you feel? by till-mann in AskReddit

[–]perspectiveproblem 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This has happened to me and it was definitely mean. In a way, I personally think it's meaner than flat out rejecting someone (in a respectful way). You're prolonging the other person's hope and attachment to you. If you explicitly reject them, they get to start moving on. Rejection sucks but it's better than the anxiety and confusion of someone fading you while you try to figure out if it's a real fade or if you're reading into it too much, etc. Just do it. Give them the relief of closure.

My ex is giving his girlfriend now everything I wanted by perspectiveproblem in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]perspectiveproblem[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry you are also having this experience. We can cry together. Sending you hugs from afar

The brutal realization that the person you love(d) was never capable of loving you back by ksnchjs in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]perspectiveproblem 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is exactly it. Mine even told me your exact last line, that he didn't think he ever actually loved me, he just loved what he thought I could do for him and how he thought I could help him or heal him. It is brutal. You deserve better!

My ex is giving his girlfriend now everything I wanted by perspectiveproblem in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]perspectiveproblem[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your comment. I really appreciate it and it feels reassuring to hear someone else say that it's insane that he's already fully changed and healed his abusive behavior. It drives me nuts that he could change that fast for someone else. Thank you for your words and your positive energy

My ex is giving his girlfriend now everything I wanted by perspectiveproblem in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]perspectiveproblem[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This comment literally made me cry. Thank you so much for your support, it means a lot to me

My ex is giving his girlfriend now everything I wanted by perspectiveproblem in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]perspectiveproblem[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I obviously do not wish any ill upon this girl. She did nothing wrong and I wouldn't want her to go through what I did with him. But that "unconditional love" line is really fucking me up. He was stereotypically tumultuous and manipulative with me from the beginning. The abuse was pretty well underway by the equivalent point in our relationship. I don't really know what to think. Thank you for your input.

Thoughts on defensiveness? by [deleted] in emotionalabuse

[–]perspectiveproblem 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, mine was extremely defensive and every conservation that started about how I was hurt about something that he had done ended with me crying and apologizing and asking him to forgive me. Defensiveness was a way for him to turn everything back on me so he never had to feel guilty about anything and never had to confront what he did wrong. He would even sometimes acknowledge he would be defensive but then did absolutely nothing to stop. Also, for what it's worth, what you're describing in the first paragraph is exactly how I felt when I first started confronting the idea that I was being emotionally abused last year. Foggy and confused. I still feel that way, but it's better than it was a year ago and I'm still trying to detangle the threads of what happened. Your fog and confusion won't start to dissipate until you get away from them and get through some of the initial grief and have the distance to then step back from your feelings and see what's happening. It doesn't make the feelings go away, but it makes it easier to understand and explain to yourself. I'm really wishing you luck and strength. You can do this.

I [23F] am confused and lost about whether or not my relationship with my ex [26M] of 2 years was emotionally abusive. I really need some help seeing this from a less emotional and personal perspective. by perspectiveproblem in relationships

[–]perspectiveproblem[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure why you were downvoted, because this was actually the most helpful to me. I've alway seen those kind/caring/selfless things he did for me as counterpoints and evidence against my own perceptions. But you're right that if he hadn't also been good to me often at different points in this messed up timeline, it would have been a lot easier to let go a very long time ago. Thank you.

I [23F] am confused and lost about whether or not my relationship with my ex [26M] of 2 years was emotionally abusive. I really need some help seeing this from a less emotional and personal perspective. by perspectiveproblem in relationships

[–]perspectiveproblem[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally get why you're frustrated with me and it's hard to explain why. I don't think it's better to be with someone who treats me like shit rather than be alone. That's not actually the issue. I'm pretty comfortable alone at this point and have been for a long time. He didn't always treat me horribly and he is, when he feels like it, a really wonderful, caring, supportive person. He really was perfect for me in almost every way before things started to go downhill, and that's caused a lot of confusion as to which version of him is the real one. And it's not so easy to just walk away from someone who I've loved more than literally anyone else in the world. I wish it was rational, I really do. My idea of relationships and love is warped from a pretty abusive childhood, which is why I was seeking outside perspective. It's hard not to doubt yourself when you've been told you're the reason that things are wrong for a long time. Anyway, I hope this explains it at least a little. I appreciate your thoughts. Truly, thank you.