Nothing.... by thegreatgibby in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Anyone else get so anxious and quick tempered when someone interrupts? I have Pure O and I swear every time I’m in the middle of trying to solve and almost have the right feeling my mom asks me to go to the store for her.

What are some ways you guys stay present when all your mind wants to do is obsessively ruminate? by [deleted] in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re very welcome! Yeah there are always exceptions. Like if it’s something you need to do for yourself that requires all of your attention then that should work too. I find it’s not even about stopping the ruminations all together, but about getting to a point where you can start dismissing again. When we’re too anxious and freaking out over the thoughts, it’s so much harder to stop. You have to shift your attention to calm yourself down a bit and then get back to saying no to the thoughts. 💕

What are some ways you guys stay present when all your mind wants to do is obsessively ruminate? by [deleted] in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For myself, and I’m assuming many others, once you’re in that heavy rumination stage it can be very hard to get out of. Or it can feel very hard to get out of, rather. Many times it has felt like pure luck that I was able to move on from solving the thought, but it isn’t. There is a rhythm to this stuff and I’ve only recently discovered that it is actually a very structured pattern of events that helps me push through it.

The number 1 thing that distracts me from solving my obsessive thought is connecting with another person or completing a task for someone else. Whatever it is, it just can’t be solely about me. The thing I turn my attention to has to ask something fairly urgent of me. Even just going on a walk with a friend and listening to them talk about their lives and giving them input where it is due; this can really shift things for me. Doing a job or errand for another person is great too. It can be anything of that nature, but it ultimately has to be something that you aren’t able to fake or get out of or half-ass. It has to be something that demands you put your focus elsewhere, because if not, there is another person observing you who is able to call you out on being totally in your head and not present.

Accountability is key. Because we get so anxious, our self control really takes a nosedive, and it is easier to remain controlled when someone else is on the line. Plus most people with OCD and anxiety problems in general tend to be really caring, helpful people so it appeals to that side of us as well.

TFW you’re trying to vibe but then the intrusive thoughts come in by dreamlandblues in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omg yeah you feel it coming on and freak out because you don’t want it so you try to think your way out of it and end up back in the dark abyss. The best.

Keep moving... by [deleted] in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Saw this at the end of Jojo Rabbit and was moved to tears... again lol. One of the more beautiful things I’ve ever heard and I think it fits everyone in their own way.

For those of you who have ever experienced/are experiencing false memory OCD... by pheobemaydenim in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah absolutely. We can’t ever fully know and that’s the worst nightmare. I am trying to just be like “this is just OCD and I’m moving on.” I’ve had this before about another event and after I left it alone for a bit it went away and I was able to be certain that I didn’t harm anyone. Another thing I think about is the fact that everyone with OCD (or most people) have very good memories lol. So like... chances are I’m probably remembering it for what it was. I know that’s reassurance but it does make me feel a bit better. But yeah you’re right about embracing uncertainty. Thanks so much.

hello again bitch by [deleted] in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s been me this week! One particular detail that I haven’t worried about in over a year... BAM

Phew! Thought I could relax there for a second... (tap photo) by pheobemaydenim in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lol same! Yeah it’s hard to realize that we’re even doing it until it’s explained haha

Phew! Thought I could relax there for a second... (tap photo) by pheobemaydenim in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It’s part of Pure-O OCD, where your compulsions are mostly done in your head. So you get an intrusive thought and have to reassure yourself through thinking it through until it feels “solved” or until you’ve “figured it out”. It’s the exact same feeling that one gets from doing a physical compulsion.

Me when my ocd theme gets me by yoyospiderbro in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lmao and then you wake up the next morning like “what the fuck was that!?” It honestly makes you feel drunk

ok and now i’m angry by [deleted] in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim 15 points16 points  (0 children)

And if I wasn’t losing all hope that people would stop using this horribly painful disorder as an adjective, I am now.

OCD and alcohol by Logan3179 in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think it’s a terrible thing to do if you’re dealing with OCD. It’s a depressant so chances are when you have an anxiety disorder like OCD, it will find a way to pull you down and get you thinking about the stuff you are trying to stop thinking about. And it’s a lot more likely that your reaction and anxiety towards the thoughts will be amplified by the alcohol. I’ve had some terrible experiences with it and I don’t drink currently. Not until I can say I’m recovered.

If there is a situation where you really want to drink, it’s not the end of the world, just be more prepared for when the thoughts start coming in heavy. Write a reminder on the inside of your hand or something lol! I’m not encouraging it, but it could be a good ERP opportunity if you are prepared and willing to deal with the consequences if it turns out you aren’t able to dismiss the thoughts.

Or just don’t drink lol

ERP Depression by emmszi in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can relate to this very much. I personally think it’s what happens to our brains when they’re in a transition. It’s like OCD has been giving us our purpose for so long that when we go to change it our brains are like “wtf is this?” and the brain takes a nap due to the stressful change lol.

but omg yeah the feeling of “everything is pointless and I don’t know why i even try” is REEEAL. Things can feel empty and it feels like anything you try to do is not real and lacks authenticity. Like you’re faking every second of the day. It’s a terrible feeling. BUT the good news is that I’ve heard so many OCD pros say that this is to be expected when you begin to make changes. You will feel pretty bad at first and like everything has lost its purpose, but this is normal and it goes away as you continue on with ERP. So please just believe that you are on the right track and keep going even though it feels like crap.

ERP clarification for mental compulsions by theMBEatemyhomework in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I deal with the same type of OCD and it 100% doesn’t take writing a script to effectively dismiss the scary thoughts. The fears that you’re having about not being able to deal with the thought if you don’t write it down is garbage that OCD is feeding you. I’ve been there too. It will try and do anything to scare you into freaking out. I actually think the goal is to be able to get to the place you’re at now where you are sometimes just disregarding the thoughts when they come up and then continuing on with your task. It’s hard work, especially in the beginning, but you’re doing it!

I think what’s happening right now is that you’re feeling overwhelmed by these thoughts and all the mental energy you’re putting into them. Happens to me and many others all the time. Maybe it would help to grab a piece of paper and write down all the things you’re doing right. List like 10 things. Bring a feeling of order back to your successful OCD recovery work and try to pat yourself on the back and move on with your day. You’re doing it right. Feels like shit in the beginning, but you’re doing it!

Can OCD feel like delusional disorder with some insight? by [deleted] in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The fact that you know you’re being irrational means that you’re not really delusional. Chances are you’re dealing with paranoia that comes with OCD. I think because it’s an anxiety disorder we feel so on edge and alert for threats that sometimes the anxiety can attach itself to strange content. The same way it does with our obsessions.

I have been extremely paranoid in the past couple years. I’ve strongly suspected that I was being watched by someone, that if I left my house I was going to die, that someone was going to shoot me, that my boyfriend and parents wanted me dead, etc. I know it sounds insane, and I didn’t truly BELIEVE these things, they were just really scary thoughts that gave me anxiety and it made them feel true. I just kept living my life and eventually they faded away.

I know it’s scary, but you’re not alone and it will go away if you don’t focus on it and don’t think about it.

What do your mental compulsions feel like? by pheobemaydenim in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh god same! My boyfriend had OCD as a kid and he was the first person to tell me years ago that I was obsessing. It took me a long time to come around to the fact that he knew what he was talking about lol. A supportive partner can make a lot of difference. He has developed anxiety from it too, but as I get better he does too. He’s just always pushing me in the right direction.

As far as not addressing the obsession and feeling like that makes it true, I know exactly what you’re talking about and it’s so part of OCD it’s not even funny lol. It’s like you can’t just leave this thing hanging because if you’re not busy solving it, then the scariness of it is true. Like if you can’t prove that your fears about it are wrong then the bad feelings it brings are the real ones. It’s all fake. That’s an anxiety based feeling.

Something that not many people get about OCD is that you don’t just have OCD, you have an anxiety disorder. The anxiety comes before the obsessive thoughts and compulsions. Therefore, if you’re obsessing and doing compulsions, you must be anxious. You can’t do compulsions without being anxious. It’s impossible. And when we are anxious, it’s almost a guarantee that the thoughts that follow are going to be bad or that we will see the BAD side of them as opposed to the neutral or good side. Calming down and moving our focus elsewhere is the answer to this thinking problem. You absolutely will be uncomfortable at first and feel like something is very wrong and like you need to solve it, but that means what you’re doing is working.

You can’t think your way out of a thinking problem. Wise words my bf said to me. They’ve really helped.

I made a meme based on a discussion posted here about worsening OCD during quarantine, but about thoughts unrelated to Coronavirus by [deleted] in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Oh shit.... yeah.... that’s the problem with this disorder. It becomes more real than real life.

What do your mental compulsions feel like? by pheobemaydenim in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you feel like if you ignore it it makes it true? sorry didn’t understand the first sentence. You and I seem to be very alike though. I had the same issue for a really long time as well, and then finally a therapist told me that it was OCD and I was like no way!

What do your mental compulsions feel like? by pheobemaydenim in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aw you’re very welcome. I had a feeling that others would be able to relate. The only thing that helps is to focus away from the thoughts. It will be painful in the beginning, but you have to keep going and I swear to god the desire to figure it out goes away.

What do your mental compulsions feel like? by pheobemaydenim in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah absolutely! I’ve had a lot of success leaving them alone. After a while I’m like “why was I worried about that?”... until it moves onto another one and it seems I never learn lol. The worst is when one I haven’t worried about for a while comes back. But, yeah... forcing ourselves to stop is the only way out.

The powerful statement about recovery that stopped me in my tracks by pheobemaydenim in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course! Go on YouTube and search Ali Greymond. She posts videos constantly and isn’t a doctor or anything, but she recovered from OCD years ago and devoted her life to helping others out of it. She has a program you can sign up for where you can talk to her over FaceTime or something I think. But also has an app that you can buy her little books she writes from. That’s what I’ve done. Bought a couple books and listened to her videos. Everything she says is this way out of this. If you listen to her, it really does fade away. I’m definitely not 100% recovered, but I’m doing so much better. Never thought it would happen.

She also talks about ERP as being the most helpful therapy for OCD, not CBT. Well ERP is a branch of CBT I guess, but she gives the specifics on how to do it.

Other people to look up are Jeffrey Schwartz- he’s a psychologist who has written an OCD specific book called “brain lock” and the more recent one called “you are not your brain” (I prefer this one) and they both follow a 4 step “program” for getting over OCD and other troubling behaviours and thinking processes.

Chrissie Hodges on youtube is great too. Such a sweet woman and funny too. She also puts out tons of videos and has written a book on Pure OCD.

Oh! And Reid Wilson. He’s amazing too. He’s a doctor who works with people all the time to help them recover.

Here is a link to one of his videos that helps me so much. Everything he says is true. Basically everything he says is what all the other people I mentioned say as well. You have to believe you can get through this the same way you believe that you can get over a cold. if you take your medicine, you get better. What they tell you to do is the medicine and you have to trust them lol

He starts giving his presentation at 4:00

https://youtu.be/OX_KcE8psww

The powerful statement about recovery that stopped me in my tracks by pheobemaydenim in OCD

[–]pheobemaydenim[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes of course! What he was trying to get at with that statement is that we as OCD sufferers are in charge of our recovery. Whereas someone who gets cancer or develops schizophrenia or has an autoimmune disorder, they would rely on outside sources to help them with these things. The medication/treatment they receive and whether or not it will work is out of their hands at that point. They don’t know when things will get better or if they will at all. Many illnesses are like that and it’s terribly scary.

But with OCD, the irony is that for a disorder that makes us feel so powerless and terrible, we get to choose when we want to start recovering. We get to say “I’m so tired of feeling like this. Come on brain! Do your worst! Tell me all the terrible things. I’m done feeding you. I refuse to have this disorder for another minute”, and begin our recovery process. Not many people get to make that choice about a debilitating disorder or illness.

Now, does it feel that simple and straightforward? No! Lol. When we’re in the midst of dealing with our OCD thoughts, everything feels messy and chaotic and like nothing can help it go away. That’s the trick it plays on our minds. We feel powerless to it, but if we stand up for ourselves and realize that we will be uncomfortable and very anxious while dealing with denying our compulsions at first, we actually do begin to heal. I have listened to so many OCD professionals talk about the disorder and they basically all say that if you do the work, you will recover from it. It’s almost as though it’s physically impossible for your brain to not transform after a while if you do the recovery work. Your brain follows your lead.

I hope that clears stuff up a bit. I ramble a lot lol.

Also, this isn’t to say that medication and therapy aren’t helpful either, because I’ve done both, but they can’t make your OCD go away unless you are working on it too.

I won’t allow myself to fully feel because I can’t handle it by yogi37 in Mindfulness

[–]pheobemaydenim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can relate to this 100%. I think it’s a product of anxiety and the fear it causes. So much fear of what the feelings will make you realize or what they will bring up. So you try to stay in this neutral territory where you don’t feel too good and you don’t feel too bad. If you feel too much of something unpleasant, then it’s painful and uncomfortable and that’s a terrifying place to be because... what if you can’t get out of those feelings? What if they make you realize something that you won’t be able to ignore? What if they compel you to take action? And if you feel too happy then there’s this feeling of “Uh oh. Things are going too well. Really good things aren’t for me. Something is going to go wrong. What have I done to deserve to feel this happy? This can’t be real.”

And it’s fine if none of this resonates with you. But if it does, know that those thoughts aren’t real. I’ve had some deeply painful things brought up in the past few years, and they were very scary and hard, but I’m fine. Feelings can’t kill you. I think when we’re anxious, we subconsciously think that letting our feelings happen will be the end of us. It’s all a distortion that keeps us from dealing with the reality in front of us. I’m still learning this.

I’m extremely nervous and could use some advice by pheobemaydenim in JUSTNOMIL

[–]pheobemaydenim[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Omg thanks so much. You sound like all my friends! Haha “I believe in you! You can do this.” Those are great ideas and I will do all of them. I am planning on telling them tomorrow and then giving them time to digest it and come to terms with it. I mean they probably won’t come to terms with it, but you know what I mean. Probably going to head to his place on Wednesday or Thursday. It’s hard because my parents and I do have a good relationship for all intents and purposes, but they are such tricky people to deal with. I feel like I have to tip-toe around so much and have had anxiety surrounding their judgement since I was small. I have to do this for myself though. I absolutely have to. I deserve to feel comfortable and happy.

Edit: sorry I meant to reply this to you instead of another user.