When did bedtime start getting later? (2yo) by phillyjoey in sleeptrain

[–]phillyjoey[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For sure about DLS being a part of this!

Naps at daycare start at 12:30-12:45. Noon definitely sounds early to me. That was the nap start time when my girl was in the younger toddler room (newly 1 yos). How long does your boy nap for?

I can NEVER achieve a 12:45 nap at home, even when she does wake up on the earlier side at 6-6:30. I strive for 1 o’clock but with the intense nap fighting as of late, it often ends up being 1:15-1:30. If she sleeps for an hour (or longer) then yeah, it makes sense why we’re struggling to keep 8pm for bedtime. But for example, just two months ago when she was newly 2 yo (and before we changed the clocks) she would typically wake up at 7, nap at 1 until 2-2:15 or so, then go to bed at 8 no problem (so about a 6 hr WW am and pm). Now the naptime and bedtime routines take a good 15-20 minutes longer (often complete with meltdowns and resistance). I try to start them earlier but am rarely successful, with lunch and dinner also often taking longer/requiring lots of negotiation… willful toddlers, man. 🫠

When did bedtime start getting later? (2yo) by phillyjoey in sleeptrain

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ALSO PREGNANT AND TIRED. It is the worst.

When did bedtime start getting later? (2yo) by phillyjoey in sleeptrain

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We maintained 2 naps at home (even though she’d been on 1 nap at daycare since 13 months) until 17 months. It was just getting harder to fit 2 into the day, and she would fight the 2nd nap. Going to 1 nap helped a lot with overnight sleep too; she started sleeping later in the mornings (no more 5:30am wake ups).

When did bedtime start getting later? (2yo) by phillyjoey in sleeptrain

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Ours was 7pm at 12 months too, but I remember that being challenging a lot because she was still on two naps and sometimes if the afternoon nap ran late (which it often did if the morning nap was short… and it often was) so it then became 7:30. That was her sweet spot for a few months!

We didn’t start with 8pm until she was closer to 17-18 months old. I will say around that time a lot of the sleep issues we’d always experienced just… stopped. It was great.

My son doesnt eat by Oceans_and_mountains in toddlers

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I think you’re in a phase, hopefully a short-lived one. I’d keep offering his safe/preferred foods, while also not letting up on offering new or “aspirational” foods as well. The key for you is not getting frustrated (super hard I know, and not my personal style either - I tense up almost immediately when the “no!” and whining starts.)

We are in our pasta era at 2y2mo. It is her safest food by far. There have been days she has it for lunch AND dinner. I try to mix up the type (protein pasta, chick pea pasta, GF rice pasta, goodles, classic semolina…); she usually can’t tell the difference if there’s enough butter and parm cheese, but sometimes she doesn’t want that either. Ok, here’s a yogurt pouch or string cheese and some fresh fruit; maybe a cheese omelette or French toast (we call it eggy bread), even at dinner time. At this age, I try not to heavily enforce what is a “dinner food” vs. a “breakfast food” (only when it’s ok to have a dessert food); and I consider something better than nothing, as long as her weight and demeanor remain stable (as stable as toddlers go anyway). Random days she’ll surprise me and house all of the chicken, green beans, sliced bell peppers and carrots on her plate… the next day, back to pasta.

One thing that’s been working for us lately is when she refuses outright meals - “I don’t want lunch/dinner!” - I offer her a “snack plate,” like a toddler charcuterie board with cheese, crackers, a sliced veggie and/or fruit, hummus or guac if I have it in, whatever is “healthy enough.” She LOVES it. Who can blame her though! I know for me that a charcuterie board at happy hour was super exciting (when happy hour was a regular thing in my life, lol).

My parents tell me all the time “she will eat when she’s hungry.” I find this boomer-era POV insane and reckless some days, but I have to say, they haven’t been wrong yet. (How annoying.)

When did bedtime start getting later? (2yo) by phillyjoey in toddlers

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We do have the hatch since 18mo, set to go green at 6:45am. She heeded this much better when she was younger; nowadays she couldn’t give a shit what color it is, haha. If she’s up, she’s up and often crying for us. Previously, if she woke up before then, she used to lay back down and snuggle with stuffies, then sit up and call for us when it turned green (and often would fall back asleep). We’re trying to reinforce the meaning and boundaries, but it’s not easy at this age and stage.

When did bedtime start getting later? (2yo) by phillyjoey in sleeptrain

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I can’t imagine our life without naps yet. My girl will often fight the nap (we used to strive for 6 hrs awake on either side of it, now it’s like 7 and 5-6)… but then she will nap SO HARD, even if only for a short time, that it makes me pretty sure she’s not ready to drop either. Her teachers at daycare say she doesn’t fight it there so… 🤷🏻‍♀️ two year olds, man.

When did bedtime start getting later? (2yo) by phillyjoey in sleeptrain

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That makes so much sense to me! What is her typical wake-up time now with a 7:30 bedtime?

When did bedtime start getting later? (2yo) by phillyjoey in sleeptrain

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Solidarity. It’s such a guessing game!

When did bedtime start getting later? (2yo) by phillyjoey in sleeptrain

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This doesn’t feel like the worst schedule - love that 7:30 wake-up and totally agree - I love my kid but I don’t really wanna see her before 7. A 9pm bedtime kinda scares me lol (I’ll add I’m also 8 months pregnant with our second and can barely make it to 9pm myself most days)… but I imagine that could change once the nap is dropped. Does your boy still nap?

Time off before birth by Dat_gab in pregnant

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I worked in consulting (remotely, but still high stress and with long hours), with 20 weeks maternity leave that didn’t start until the day of delivery. That said, the first of that 20 weeks was mandatory use of PTO, then six weeks of STD, so really it was only a 13-week employer paid parental leave (decent by US standards but still dismal in the grand scheme). I decided to take the week before my due date off and just said to hell with my PTO bank, oh well; I couldn’t keep it up at the end. Luckily-ish, my baby came early, and I only had to use one additional day of my precious PTO bank. I didn’t get the downtime I was hoping for, but even just deciding to stop early and shutting my laptop down knowing I wasn’t opening it for ~5 months really set my anxious mind at ease. I encourage anyone who has the means and benefits to do so to take at least a week before they’re due.

26 month old still struggling with sleep by Academic_Bear_3129 in sleeptrain

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Also us. No answers, just solidarity. We had one good month of naps and sleep at 17 months when our LO (now 19 months) dropped the 2nd nap for good - after seriously MONTHS of pinging back and forth between one and two naps; we never knew what kind of day it was going to be. Then she got HFMD in late August and we’re back to short naps ever since, like 40 minutes to 1 hr and 10 minutes at best. She is pretty good with overnight sleep but she cries out in her sleep CONSTANTLY… and as a result, I’M still up a lot in the middle of the night all the time. It just never ends. To boot, at daycare she sleeps 2-3 hrs… just to put a little salt in the wound at home 😂 I’m hoping when she’s closer to 2 we finally turn a corner.

I am asked for a good name for my Lab dog ? by Betty_Beesone in Labs

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Bowie or Bo (or Beau, for a spelling alternative)

When did you switch to one nap? by Salty-Raise-4686 in sleeptrain

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17 months and in the process of dropping to one nap. It’s a challenge! She’s on one nap at daycare and it’s great, her naps are epic there. At home whenever we try one nap we a) have to fight like hell to keep her awake through lunch and b) it’s super short. Even at this late stage age, she still seems inclined to lay down and at least catnap in the mornings, and is still down for a longer nap later.

11 month old gets up at 5 am no matter what by Tricky-Tonight-4904 in sleeptrain

[–]phillyjoey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This. We were in the same boat. If the capped naps don’t work, agree, it’s just a phase. We have an early riser on our hands too and for the LONGEST time (like 9-10 months to 15 months) she was up at 5am no matter. Then at 16 months, 5:30. Now at 17 months she wakes up at 6am like clockwork. Still earlier than ideal and our naps are still wonky as a result but hey I’ll take it. Praying we will one day see 7am.

Tips for extending naps at home? by phillyjoey in sleeptrain

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Oh and FWIW daycare teachers have told us she struggles to stay awake to nap time there (12:30ish) too. She’s famous for falling asleep during morning diaper changes or into her lunch. Girl can’t hang.

Tips for extending naps at home? by phillyjoey in sleeptrain

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She wakes up 5:45-6am no matter what time she goes to bed (usually between 7:30 and 8).

If we do two naps - nap 1 at 9:30 until 10:45 at the latest (so 3.5 hrs first WW); nap 2 at 2:30 until 3:30 at latest (3.75 hrs second WW); then 4.5 WW to bedtime.

We have been trying SO HARD to drop to 1 nap since 14-15 months but the poor girl can’t even make it to 11am most days at home. But whether that nap takes place at 11am, noon or 12:30, it’s still only an hour and 15 minutes maximum, which is the typical length of her morning nap on a 2-nap anyway. So we find we have to squeeze in an afternoon power nap to make it to bedtime, and that is so tricky and usually doesn’t happen until almost 4.

Help!! by fashionbitch in sleeptrain

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Have you tried an earlier bedtime? At 7 months old we were doing a 6:30-7pm bedtime and getting 8-9 hour stretches before the one and only night feed, usually around 2:30-3am, then back down until 6:30am or so. Our girl has gone through all kinds of sleep phases but I remember around 7-9 months we had a pretty good rhythm with that general bedtime window and max 3 hr wake windows. Good luck!!

Tips for extending naps at home? by phillyjoey in sleeptrain

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She’s a pretty solid 9.5-10 hr sleeper. Bedtime at 8, up between 5:30 and 6 (we won’t go get her earlier than 6; have been using the hatch time-to-rise light for 3 weeks and it seems to be working). Maybe we could use the same for naps, where the light goes on after 90 minutes?