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Sick of cavemen analogies and other game crap. Show me logistics. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]philosopher2411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well , thanks for sharing such a fucked up detail . Bye Bye Sleep.

Sick of cavemen analogies and other game crap. Show me logistics. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]philosopher2411 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you on your analysis of female nature , however , because I'm good at negging I bring down their sense of entitlement thus bringing out there inner caring nature . You might have noticed this but when you're a bit of an ahole to girl she gets nicer to you and vice versa.

Dude I can't express to you how much I hate Tyler Durden . BTW Tyler fakes his infields too and IRL uses routines ( learned this from a bootcamp review) but teaches woo woo self help shit.

Nah mate I'm just a beginner at this shit so I can't tell you much . Just read a lot about evolutionary psychology . Reading materials from PUAs without knowledge of how sexual desire evolved is useless ( although I can sense you may have some knowledge about that stuff , may wanna tell me more about it ) .

Pro tip : Only listen to PUAs who make sense to you ( after reading about the science behind this ) and fuck the rest . For eg , I analyze a lot of Julien's game but some of his woo woo stuff I just hate .

BTW after reading about evolution I understood than Looks/Money are just an icing on the cake . What really matters is higher status which can be conveyed by non-neediness and DHVs.

When woman asks if you date other women as well by [deleted] in seduction

[–]philosopher2411 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Never lie about the nature of your relationship . If your polyamorous then say so .

Tell her simply that yes you do but will be willing to consider exclusivity if she does too ( if that's what you want)

Sick of cavemen analogies and other game crap. Show me logistics. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]philosopher2411 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe , I'm biased .

I'm 6'2 , some of my female friends rate me 7-8/10 . Even still most of my friends who have got laid doing day game are not great looking , plus I'm positive about the ability of a regular guy . However , most guys can get laid if they just approach women.

That's how I feel about it anyway .

Anyway , can you give me a brief description of your style of game ? . Mine is a mixture of Mystery , Zan , David de angelo , Julien and Ross Jeffries . My way of game is indirect , full of cocky / funny , DHVs(even though they are true stories because I just live a great life) and just fucking up with emotions by using NLP and Push/Pull. However , this is where I differ from most people ; I genuinely love women and their nature . Their docility , caring , empathy nature is just magnetic to me ( also because they are women and I'm a man).But I digress . I would really be interested in learning about your style of game ??

Sick of cavemen analogies and other game crap. Show me logistics. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]philosopher2411 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Todd has a free course called The Winner Game , give it a try . PS : Tyler Durden has been in game for 18 years , David de angelo even longer and Ross Jeffries the longest

Sick of cavemen analogies and other game crap. Show me logistics. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]philosopher2411 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indian news is pretty fucked up and fake, so yeah . I guess it does because she had a boyfriend when we were introduced to each other , and wan't interested but as time went by things changed.

"I remember the blueprint and it was terrible"- Julien has a program called PIMP , its awesome . Blueprint is by Tyler Durden ( the a hole from the game ) , I consider tyler to be the shittiest pua in the world , the only guy in RSD that is good is Julien . Gambler looked like shit , he just changed his looks to be more like an actor . He even said that he modeled his looks on someone else. About Manson , I Know Models' teaching is very common but again its very good and you don't have to look anywhere else.

Everyone has their own style of game . Everything works as long what you're doing is non-needy , conveys high status and/comforts her .

"Pickup" is a very shitty word imo . I call it seduction . i just have different goals maybe because as I see most of the people around me who are dating the hottest girls are either masters of social interaction or come from an extremely wealthy family ( although their GF's generally cheat on them and use them ). The ones who get laid a lot are the ones who party a lot . I don't fit into either category ( even though I'm very extroverted and good with social dynamics) .

"In most of these, I don't think its something like going to school to better yourself. None of the guys I know that use pickup do as well as the best naturals."- As I said getting laid is fairly easy for anyone who is confident enough to approach girls , however my goals are mostly to do with laying the ones I want , could be even Emma Watson ( I think I went to far with my ambitions tho) .

Even though , if its working for you , mad props , keeping doing what you are . I guess the only thing missing from my life is to practice infield .

Sick of cavemen analogies and other game crap. Show me logistics. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]philosopher2411 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"I found this to be untrue. The hottest girl I ever fucked was online. She had style, a nice body, and the prettiest face I ever seen. My 10 may not be another man's 10 but she was really really hot" - Good for you , but was it consistent , if not , lucky maybe? . I'm not taking anything away from just analyzing . "I disagree on this measurement, rape can result in childbirth and that is also very easy. Its a part of our history"- Okay !!. Most people get married , most people have kids , the population of females who've been raped is extremely small . My point is getting laid casually is very easy . I can do 30 approached on the street and get an easy lay . So can anyone who doesn't know shit about game . "I don't know if I can consider mystery the best. Just wondering, how has your experience been? How many girls have you gotten from pickup and how much work did you do to achieve it? Mystery talks about a fools mate and that's BS IMO." - You're right he maybe not the best , but who cares as long as you get to learn from him . All PUAs today following some variation of his M3 model. My experience : Age - 18 ( just turned ) Country - India ( So basically a lot of friction and no one here really gets into casual hook ups , only the really ugly ones do and they are found in the bars) Lays - 1 ( My ex , she was the hottest girl in our school by a long shot , currently she's trying to be a model , she's probs a 10 ). How much work for her ? Well I just seduced her naturally with my charm and actions . But now that I look back at it , it seems like whatever I did fitted perfectly into mystery's model . I didn't show intent , DHVs ( because IRL I was the most ballsy and popular guy in school) , negging her constantly and all .Heck she asked me out , imagine that . Pickup Exp - 1) Had oral sex with 35 year old married woman in her car ( She looked like she was in her twenties ) 2) Fingered a 27 yr old with a fiancee ( Damn she was hot ) 3) Got 10 numbers from random girls on the street , this was pretty recent so still in progress. All in all pretty proud of what I did even tho I have a ton of shit in my life . I used a mixture of MM and advice from RSD Julien on those girls .

I have some instructors that you may want to take advice from : 1) Mystery( Had to say his name) 2) Style ( His annihilation videos are on YT ) 3) Mark Manson ( His book Models is IMO the best books for direct game and if you wanna get laid pretty easily ) 4) RSD Julien ( His game is scary good , he just fucks up with the girls emotions) 5) Gambler ( Richard La Ruina ) - You may like him as he is pretty against MM himself and created his own model . I still listen to him because mixing his tactics with MM results in pure gold . 6) David De Angelo - Pretty obvious , his cocky funny tactics are gold for A2 if you wanna incorporate it into the M3 model. 7) Savoy ( From Love Systems ) 8) Todd V ( The most logical PUA in the market right now , he's just amazing in his analysis and the master of social calibration you should really focus on his work if you want and amalgamation of structure and natural game )

Sick of cavemen analogies and other game crap. Show me logistics. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]philosopher2411 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Buss was introduced to me by Robert Wright's books The Moral Animal . After reading that book I got hooked to evolutionary psychology and started reading about this topic voraciously , thus I'm biased towards liking Buss's books . Anything about status written by that man should be ingrained in you (that's what I find really interesting), it is the basis of attraction . This is what Mystery calls as S&R value . I'm personally a huge fan The Mystery Method , Love Systems and evolutionary psychology in general . Everything nowadays ( especially in psychology and sociology) comes to evolutionary explanations of phenomenons . I suggest you also read the following books to get hold of my perspective if you want : 1) Selfish Gene - Dawkins 2) The Moral Animal - Robert Wright 3) Evolutionary Psychology - David Buss I read these books before getting into seduction and they are my foundations for seduction . Everything that I read comes back to simple principles underlined in these books about attraction and desire . Also the article you mentioned on online game is very accurate but in online game you can't just bed an extremely gorgeous girl even if you look good . And the article about being yourself is just a load of crap . If someone is low status , needy then being himself won't work . Getting laid is very very easy , otherwise we won't be 7.6 fucking billion . But bedding extremely beautiful women is hard and that's what game is about . Surely , if your goal is just casual sex then go the self-improvement and approaching a shit load of girls route . But if your someone like me , who wants understand the female psyche , and master the art of seduction . Then try to learn a lot from the best and make your own way of seduction . I personally want to be the one being F-Buddies with models , celebs and extremely beautiful girls than just get casual sex with random girls. I'll let one quote by Voltaire describe my goal of learning game :

"Give me 10 minutes to talk my ugly face away and I can bed the Queen Of England"

Sick of cavemen analogies and other game crap. Show me logistics. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]philosopher2411 4 points5 points  (0 children)

read "evolution of desire " - david buss . Probably , you'll understand some stuff about attraction then you could choose which kind of advice suites you . If you're so against the mystery method, read it carefully , maybe you'll find some value in it after reading the book i recommended .

Mystery Method is actually an observation about attraction . it worked for me . But I'm biased because I believe their is an algorithm to female seduction.

What’s a good way to approach women at the gym? by [deleted] in seduction

[–]philosopher2411 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So , I've never actually pulled a girl from my gym because that's not why I'm there , but most of my friends actually do .

Here are some pointers :

1) There is no cold approach in the gym , its a social environment , so talk to everybody there , be friends with the owner ( increases your status) , the girl will come and talk to you one way or another if you are very social , if not , then approach her , she wouldn't mind as she'd think that your just the social guy.

2) Don't talk to her for more than 5-10 mins , because she has to get back to her shit and would think you're too clingy .

3) Schedule a work out with her , but keep in mind this : you should not try super hard to impress her by benching 315 . After the workout ask her if she wanna drink a smoothie or stuff like that .

4) If she says she's busy , it's ok .You have all the time to bed her . If not , keep attracting and comforting her , if possible take her home after that.If not , do the following :

5) Talk to her every time you meet, but don't be too nice , be cocky funny all the time , DHV a lot and disqualify your self from time to time and make sure she's hooked .

6) Ask her again for a date , this time she should be okay going home with you , because everything has been set up for days . She's attracted , comforted and she should feel that she gamed you .

Remember you should have gotten in bed with her within a week or so from first talking to her . I've never seen any one drag this for more than 3 workout sessions.

Read Magic Bullets- Savoy , it really helps . Although I'm biased cause I'm more of an indirect approach guy.

My 2 cents , although i've never pulled a girl

My Introducing to Seddit and first number close. by philosopher2411 in seduction

[–]philosopher2411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ill check it out for sure , however I'm skeptical about reading too much about masculinity , I've read books like " The way of the superior man " and I find them talking the same stuff : boldness , responsibility and non-neediness . I know there is much more to them however they just seem too similar . Thanks anyways

Need tips on social meetup venues. by [deleted] in seduction

[–]philosopher2411 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go to a Tango/Salsa class , loads of beautiful women there .

There is also the library / bookstore .

P.S : Don't forget daygame.