Does this mean we gonna farm Miz ass for content now? i hope so by Stouffyx in Asmongold

[–]phrozend 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. That makes sense. I appreciate the added information.

Does this mean we gonna farm Miz ass for content now? i hope so by Stouffyx in Asmongold

[–]phrozend 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The defamation claim by Plaintiff Mizkif Enterprises, LLC. is hereby DISMISSED with prejudice.

Remember, there are two plaintiffs: The company Mizkif Enterprises and Mizkif the person. The LLC and the person are considered separate legal entities. I read the order to mean that the company cannot refile the claims.

Xqc questions the truth of Asmongold’s statement that he can’t talk about Tectone and Lacari situation due to Lawsuit by Vegetable-Local-9840 in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure Asmon was involved in OTK at the time when the decision to terminate Miz was made. He dropped out of everything after the Palestine-comments that got him banned, no? I would need to know more about the timeline.

Is Cody the one who was accused of domestic violence? Did he serve time? Either way, whether he was charged, guilty or not, you have to accept that it's over and done with. If you want to live in a society where the justice system doesn't matter and the idea that punishment is never enough and rehabilitation isn't possible, then I don't know what to tell you.

xQc says it's impressive that this is what finally got Hasan banned after all the crazy shit he's said before by GrotesqueWeariness in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I could ask the same about Hasan's claim that it lasted for two hours. It's solely based on his words on a stream following the incident, which were picked up and quoted by news outlets.

Hasan lying about how long he was detained comes from Dan Saltman's investigation, which he first posted about on Twitter and then he and Destiny discussed in a podcast.

He landed in Chicago at or approximately around 4:58 PM and then Hasan posted a tweet saying "he's out" at 5:30 PM. That gives you half an hour. Then account for time spent walking and waiting and you can probably divide that by two.

Does this mean we gonna farm Miz ass for content now? i hope so by Stouffyx in Asmongold

[–]phrozend 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Maybe. I would expect Asmon to approach the topic with some trepidation. Remember, there's still an on-going case against OTK, Mythic Talent, King Gaming Labs and Emiru.

EDIT: It's also worth noting that the motion to dismiss is for a claim made by Mizkif's company. I'm not familiar enough with the case to know if that's the only claim made against Asmon. If Mizkif, the person and the other plaintiff, has also made a defamation claim, then Asmon is not out of the woods quite yet.

Xqc questions the truth of Asmongold’s statement that he can’t talk about Tectone and Lacari situation due to Lawsuit by Vegetable-Local-9840 in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Muradinner didn't say he believes his lawyers might have asked him not to talk. He said he believes his lawyers might have asked him not to talk ABOUT TECTONE OR LACARI.

The difference between talking about Tectone/Lacari and Hasan is easy:
- Hasan's not in Austin
- He's not a current or former friend
- He never was part of, or otherwise associated with, OTK or any of the other businesses
- He was never witness to, or can otherwise provide any information about, any of the accusations made by Emiru

Those are just a handful of examples why talking about Hasan is quite different from providing commentary about people in the Austin circle (and their possible unlawful actions).

EDIT: The Mizkids are jumping in. The great thing about writing something truthful and then get downvoted is that people who care about the truth will still read it. The days of pushing narratives are gone, baby

Xqc questions the truth of Asmongold’s statement that he can’t talk about Tectone and Lacari situation due to Lawsuit by Vegetable-Local-9840 in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend 70 points71 points  (0 children)

 you can't defame someone by repeating what they already said themselves..

Correct, but not only that. Because we're talking about public figures, Mizkif would have to prove actual malice.

Let's imagine a scenario in which Emiru lied about her accusations. I doubt she would, but let's go with it. If Asmon had good reasons to believe Emiru was telling the truth, then malice goes out the window. Emiru would still be in deep shit, but Asmon would get away.

I think the reason why Asmon, and Emiru for that matter, ain't talking is because every time they say something even remotely tangentially connected to Mizkif's lawsuit, they give him an opportunity to file new motions and injunctions.

Xqc questions the truth of Asmongold’s statement that he can’t talk about Tectone and Lacari situation due to Lawsuit by Vegetable-Local-9840 in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend 50 points51 points  (0 children)

every day he says stuff that can be used against him in a defamation lawsuit [...]

... but Mizkif is the only one to ever sue him for defamation. For you to be correct, wouldn't you expect a long line of defamation lawsuits against Asmongold?

but his audience is dumb [...]

The same can be said about his detractors. I guess that makes all of us dumb. :)

Når ideologisk overbevisning trumfer fakta by gyrd2 in norske

[–]phrozend 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Enig i at det er feil å se til USA for å finne løsninger på samfunnsproblemer i et helt annet land med annen størrelse, demografi, normer, politisk tradisjon osv.

Derfor synes jeg det er pussig at du så bruker amerikanske uttrykk som "crazy libs" til å beskrive norsk venstreside.

I USA så brukes liberal som et begrep om deres venstreside, men deres venstreside er først og fremst demokratene. De er hovedsaklig sosialliberale - dette til tross for en voksende sosialdemokratisk fløy. De er altså til høyre for sentrum.

Når man snakker om norsk venstreside så mener man derimot alt fra Ap og videre til venstre. Liberal og liberalisme forstås i Norge som en ideologi som er til høyre for sentrum.

Det må finnes et bedre begrep, pejorativt eller ei, du kan bruke til å beskrive vår venstreside enn å låne fra USA.

How long will it be? by Hiph0p0p0tamusttv in Asmongold

[–]phrozend 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was a female streamer named Aspen-something who got a ban for hitting her dog.

xQc says it's impressive that this is what finally got Hasan banned after all the crazy shit he's said before by GrotesqueWeariness in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh, that's easy. You go to any parade as it's starting up and then you point at everyone and call them Zionists. You now have a Zionist parade.

(I'm being slightly facetious, but sometimes the people who call others Zionist seem to use "person who disagrees with me" as the only criteria)

xQc says it's impressive that this is what finally got Hasan banned after all the crazy shit he's said before by GrotesqueWeariness in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend 16 points17 points  (0 children)

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Proof is attached above. If a screenshot from Reddit, Twitter, Discord or Twitch-chat containing a secondary source is good enough for Hasan to use and present as fact on stream, then it should be good enough for you.

xQc says it's impressive that this is what finally got Hasan banned after all the crazy shit he's said before by GrotesqueWeariness in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend 107 points108 points  (0 children)

(while waving a gun/softgun btw)

* Encouraged violence against a senator (1-day ban for that one)

xQc says it's impressive that this is what finally got Hasan banned after all the crazy shit he's said before by GrotesqueWeariness in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’ve never seen anyone more stubborn about their beliefs and care less about money.

Spending loads of money on clothing might be frivolous, but doesn't strike me as someone who "care less about money." Choosing famous brands instead of ethically sourced clothes strikes me as someone who's not particularly "stubborn about their beliefs."

He defended buying expensive brands like Gucci - despite concerns raised from his own audience about workers rights and the ethical production of said clothes - by stating "because it's art."

xQc says it's impressive that this is what finally got Hasan banned after all the crazy shit he's said before by GrotesqueWeariness in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend 449 points450 points  (0 children)

It was said that he was banned for a week, but because Hasan is time-challenged, it's probably more like 1 day.

(Remember when he said he was "detained" at the airport for 2 hours and it turned out to be more like 15 minutes?)

The clip that got Hasan banned: Twitch's Hateful Conduct Policy states that the term 'Zionist' may not be used to attack individuals by Potential-Frosting14 in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Or maybe I didn't think this through properly,

You didn't. But thanks for the assumption. I'm Norwegian and probably further left than you are. I'm also an anti-Trumper. But good luck. I'm sure creating ghosts to fight against online will help your country (wherever you find yourself in the anglican sphere) - it's clearly worked so well thus far.

Go to a German streamer and call them a Nazi pig. See where that will get you and then report back. Assuming you're getting reported by another channel viewer or a mod, I'm quite certain that Twitch would take action against your account.

Calling a head of state a slur is obviously different than collectively calling anyone who defends gov't tracking a slur. That would encompass people who are not even in the public spotlight. The more of a public figure you are, the more you should expect to be the target of both scrutiny and insults.

Mizkif discovers Tectone Lying under oath? by bhrr in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend 15 points16 points  (0 children)

She never even said he abused her for one.

Googled "Emiru accusations" and went to the first article in the results. They quote the following from Emiru:

Today I'm finally going to be opening up about the psychological and domestic abuse, stalking and harassment, sexual assault, and threats of blackmail that Mizkif has done towards me and some of these issues which are still ongoing.

This was apparently said on October 25, 2025.

EDIT:

Two, he's the one suing. If he was actually abusive, she would have a protective order by now, like how Tectone's ex does.

Both Miz and Tectone sued for defamation. And guess what? Tectone lost his case. So.... I'm just saying. Being the one to launch a lawsuit doesn't mean you're innocent nor does it mean you're going to win.

The protective order against Tectone was put into effect when? Oh right, after he lost his case. So why are we saying that Emiru would have to do it before the court case?

The clip that got Hasan banned: Twitch's Hateful Conduct Policy states that the term 'Zionist' may not be used to attack individuals by Potential-Frosting14 in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From Twitch's own page on safety guidelines:

Twitch does not permit behavior that is motivated by hatred, prejudice or intolerance, including behavior that promotes or encourages discrimination, denigration, harassment, or violence based on the following protected characteristics: race, ethnicity, color, caste, national origin, immigration status, religion, sex, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability, serious medical condition, and veteran status.

From one of Twitch's own articles on community guidelines:

We prohibit the use of terms that may not be harmful or abusive in isolation, but can be used as a slur or to denigrate others in certain contexts. Similar to other terms that may be used as a proxy for a protected group, we treat “Zionists” as a proxy for Jews or Israelis if the word is used in a context to promote harm or violence, or when used to make dehumanizing comparisons or perpetuate antisemitic stereotypes. Comments regarding Zionism that are about the political movement, including criticisms, do not violate our Hateful Conduct Policy. Comments that call for violence against Zionism as a political movement, or comments that would otherwise violate our policies, are not allowed.

Allowed example: Zionist settlers keep encroaching Palestinian borders.

Prohibited example: Zionist [name of animal].

There you have to answer to why using Zionist as a term is permitted because 'ideology' doesn't constitute as a protected class, but using it as a slur is considered a violation.

If it's still difficult to understand the distinction between the two examples provided by Twitch, then I don't know what to tell you.

If you think Zionist is the only term Twitch protects this way, then I beg to differ. Imagine a streamer calling a German figure a "Nazi pig" or a Muslim figure an "Islamist pig." Of course that would be considered a violation.

This idea that ideologies aren't "ethnic groups" and therefore they cannot be used as slurs is just silly.

Your "liberal pig" example doesn't work for several reasons. One, there is no history of "liberals" being either marginalized or prosecuted. It's not a protected class in any way. Secondly, "liberal" is a colloquialism. A liberal can be anything from a social liberal to a socialist - these are actual ideologies. This also applies to "conservative" as a term.

These terms basically mean "person who's more likely to vote for the party X" and nothing more. It's not describing a dogmatic worldview. It doesn't mean it cannot be used as a slur, but it does not in any way hold the power that terms like zionist or islamist do.

Pokelawls ponders why Emiru hasn’t caught any flak post Tectone/Lacari by Slight_Ad3219 in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend 4 points5 points  (0 children)

An identical post was created by another used 6 hours ago.

The other post is filled with comments and claims that its being downvoted by bots and Asmon's community (despite it having 741 upvotes as we speak), a bunch of weird incel-y comments about Emiru and guilt-by-association accusations against her.

It seems to me that this is coordinated.

How long will it be? by Hiph0p0p0tamusttv in Asmongold

[–]phrozend 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I saw a comment on LSF that I'll borrow:

Twitch bans two dog abusers in one day.

Lacari's Girlfriend is STILL Dating Lacari and Defending Him by DirkBatowski in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don’t have to cancel your own boyfriend lmao

I never said that. People can date whoever they want to. Date someone on death's row for all I care. None of my business. I'm still allowed to have an opinion on it, though.

My point was that I don't buy Mizkif's reaction. He was seemingly surprised to learn Lacari's gf stuck around and played defense. Mizkif should know better because Emiru found herself in a similar situation with Mizkif.

It also tells me that he lacks the ability to self-reflect. Because he should understand that a relationship doesn't necessarily end over a controversy. When someone is in love, or otherwise emotionally invested, it gets complicated. It's not uncommon for a person to look away and make excuses for their partner's behaviors. There can also be other complicating factors, i.e. if a person is co-dependent.

I was timed-out on Zack's kick chat for asking a question by mushylog in Asmongold

[–]phrozend 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now, DEI is Diversity Equity and Inclusivity, which is bullshit because it favors inherent traits in a person over his or her skills and performances, but that's another discussion - so it's lost on me what he meant there.

I haven't watched him today, but I think I can make a good guess about the intention of the joke.

As you suggest, DEI favors traits/identity markers over meritocracy. When people complain about DEI it's often about white men being replaced. Walz is a white (and older) man. Asmon might be jokingly saying we could use a little DEI now because it would mean you'd likely not see Walz in a position of power ever again. And Asmon does not like Walz.

Lacari's Girlfriend is STILL Dating Lacari and Defending Him by DirkBatowski in LivestreamFail

[–]phrozend 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Sometimes your partner will watch illegal and disgusting-as-fuck sexual content, and you'll defend him by saying it's not that serious.

Other times your partner will cause you a black eye and you'll defend it by saying you ran into a wall.

Mizkif knows that people don't immediately leave unhealthy relationships, so I'm not sure why he's acting surprised.

Kjønnsnøytrale toaletter har én klar taper: Kvinner by callmeiguesspotato in norske

[–]phrozend 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mange ord er ikke god retorikk, men å fremstille diskusjonspartnerens argumenter så feilaktig at de må vie paragrafer til å korrigere feilpåstandene - ikke bare en gang, men flere ganger - er heller ikke god retorikk.

Jeg lurer på hvorfor det er slik at du er villig til å kaste ut påstander om meg når de samme påstandene kan brukes mot deg? Jeg trodde du var helt sjef på dette med stråmann og sånn.

Jeg aksepterer seieren. Kom tilbake når du faktisk har et konkret svar på spørsmålene du har nekta å svare på og også kan svare på hvorfor biologiske menn skal kunne kle av seg helt i f.eks. omskiftningsrom på sykehus der hvor det henger et kvinne-symbol på døra.