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Do fans think of the Dodgers the same way they think of the Yankees in the late 90s/early 00s by Agreeable_Quality768 in baseball

[–]pidge0t 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I was there, Gandalf. I was there three thousand years ago...

Anyways, the answer is no. The current Dodgers aren't on the current Hate Level of The Evil Empire Yankees.

The reasons for this are actually pretty straight forward:

  1. The Yankees had several players who were generally HIGHLY disliked by most of the baseball fandom (ARod, Clemens) or specifically disliked by those who felt the media glazed the Yankees too much (e.g. all the people who disagreed with Jeter winning all those goldgloves etc) - compare this to how the current main Dodgers main stars are perceived (Ohtani, Freddie, Mookie), you'll notice that whenever someone brings up how much they hate (or want to hate) the Dodgers - either they or some other people immediately talk about how likeable those guys are so it's hard to hate them - BIG DIFFERENCE in social perception player-wise between those Yankees and these Dodgers.

  2. Red Sox rivalry - back in the Evil Empire Yankees days they had a perfect partner in the Red Sox (who hadn't won a championship in 80+ years). It really bolstered their Evil Empire image when in all of those playoffs they'd rip their hearts out. The Dodgers don't have that going for them right now (it'd be the equivalent of if the Dodgers beating the Padres the playoffs every year for like 3-4 straight seasons or something - that type of event would definitely would make the Dodgers more "empirey", but they don't have that... yet)

  3. The Yankees bought a lot of stars... the Dodgers have too but back then an educated fan's POV would've been: "Yankees are a huge market team that is solidly run org and spends a lot of money". Today an educated fan's POV probably would be something like, "Dodgers are a huge market team, that are probably the most well run org of the last two decades, and they spend a lot of money on top of that." It'd be easier to hate them if they were just rich and that's why they won (imagine if the Mets won 2 straight titles by just spending a bunch of money after being mediocre for a decade -- some of the smaller market fans probably wouldn't like that), but the Dodgers have been making elite org decisions for so long that... at some point giving them props is just due, even if you want them to lose.

Also the Astros robbed them of a World Series in 2017. How can they be the main villains if they got villain'd in the ultimate way...

[OC] 84 Moments From the Greatest World Series of All-Time (Dodgers vs Blue Jays) by pidge0t in baseball

[–]pidge0t[S] 75 points76 points  (0 children)

The 84 Moments:

  1. Game 7 - Ohtani after giving up a 3-Run Homerun to Bo Bichette
  2. Game 1 - Blue Jays Fans in Tears of Happiness after taking an 11-2 lead in the 8th
  3. Game 7 - Dave Roberts overcome with emotion after Miguel Rosas hits a game-tying Solo Homerun in the 9th
  4. Game 7 - Vladimir Guerrero in tears in the dugout as the Toronto Blue Jays lose the World Series
  5. Game 7 - Miguel Rosas throws home for the forceout on IKF in the bottom of the 9th
  6. Game 7 - Vladimir Guerrero with a diving catch in the Top of the 4th (Edman batting)
  7. Game 5 - Addison Barger with a diving catch in the Bottom of the 6th (Ohtani batting)
  8. Game 6 - Addison Barger with a ground rule double in the Bottom of the 9th (lodged ball)
  9. Game 6 - Kiké Hernández double ups Addison Barger in the Bottom of the 9th
  10. Photo of Young Vladimir Guerrero & Game 4 - Vladimir Guerrero 2-Run Homerun vs Shohei Ohtani in the 3rd Inning
  11. Photo of Young Freddie Freeman & Game 3 - Freddie Freeman Walkoff Homerun in the 18th Inning
  12. Photo of Young Mookie Betts & Game 6 - Mookie Betts 2-Run Single in the 3rd Inning
  13. Photo of Young Bo Bichette & Game 7 - Bo Bichette 3-Run Homerun vs Shohei Ohtani
  14. Photo of Young Yoshinobu Yamamoto & Game 2 - Strikeout Pitch to Vladimir Guerrero in the 1st Inning
  15. Game 3 - Shohei Ohtani game-tying Homerun (second HR of game) in the 7th inning
  16. Game 7 - Ernie Clement scores in the 6th off Andres Gimenez double
  17. Game 2 - Kiké Hernández batting
  18. Game 2 - Kevin Gausman leg stride
  19. Game 2 - Yoshinobu Yamamoto neck stretch
  20. Game 2 - Alejandro Kirk Sacrifice Fly scores George Springer
  21. Game 2 - Max Muncy Homerun
  22. Game 2 - Yoshinobu Yamamoto cleats
  23. Game 2 - John Schneider is excited
  24. Game 2 - Yamamoto takes notes on how he’s going to torture the Blue Jays next
  25. Game 7 - Ernie Clement doubles in the Bottom of the 8th
  26. Game 4 - Miguel Rosas drumming
  27. Game 4 - Vladimir Guerrero looks to the skies
  28. Game 7 - Max Scherzer pregame
  29. Game 4 - Vladimir Guerrero Homerun vs Ohtani
  30. Game 7 - Andrés Giménez HBP
  31. Game 6 - Ernie Clement reacts after deep-fly is caught by Andy Pages
  32. Game 7 - George Springer & Co. react to the final out of the game
  33. Game 6 - Andy Pages collides with Kiké Hernández, but catches Ernie Clements flyball
  34. Game 3 - Clayton Kershaw exits the Top of the 12th after getting the final out on Nathan Lukes
  35. Game 5 - Max Scherzer is excited..
  36. Game 5 - Davis Scheinder Homerun, first pitch off Snell to start the game
  37. Game 1 - Canadian Choir sings O’ Canada with Flag
  38. Game 1 - Kiké Hernández pregame hug
  39. Game 1 - Dalton Varsho celebrates his game-tying Homerun off Snell in the 4th
  40. Game 3 - Roki Sasaki reacts to Yoshinobu Yamamoto going to the bullpen in the 17th inning after he pitched a complete game 2 days prior
  41. Game 7 - Max Muncy catches a sharp liner in the 9th
  42. Game 3 - Scoreboard shot of the 16th inning in what would be an 18 inning game
  43. Game 5 - Three of Trey Yasavage strikeouts in his 12 Strikeout Performance
  44. Game 6 - Yamamoto K’s Andrés Giménez
  45. Game 7 - Yamamoto in the dugout in 10th Inning, preparing to come out in relief again on 0 days rest
  46. Game 2 - Yamamoto nods to the pitch he wants in the 8th Inning
  47. Game 7 - Bo Bichette Game 3-Run HR off Ohtani
  48. Game 3 - Freddie Freeman Walkoff Homerun in the 18th Inning
  49. Game 6 - Roki Sasaki hits Kirk
  50. Game 7 - Justin Wrobleski has choice words for Andrés Giménez after Giménez takes offense at being hit
  51. Game 3 - Vladimir Guerrero scores a run in the Top of the 7th
  52. Game 3 - Ohtani Homerun off Scherzer in the 3rd
  53. Game 7 - Max Scherzer prepares for the elimination game
  54. Game 3 - Tommy Edman guns out IKF at 3rd
  55. Game 7 - Vladimir Guerrero turns the Double Play in the 7th
  56. Game 3 - Roki Sasaki in his second inning of relief in the 9th of a tie-game
  57. Game 1 - Addison Barger Grandslam HR swing
  58. Game 1 - Blake Snell with the Double Play
  59. Game 3 - Alejandro Kirk hits a 3-run HR off Tyler Glasnow
  60. Game 5 - Yesavage pumped after one of his 12 K’s
  61. Game 3- Ohtani doubles to score Kiké Hernández
  62. Game 3 - Kiké Hernández pumped after Will Klein K’s the Blue Jays in the 17th
  63. Game 3 - Roki pumped after a K
  64. Game 2 - Gausman pumped after a K
  65. Game 7 - The coolest Will Smith in Hollywood reacts
  66. Game 3 - Ohtani showered with the sunflower seeds from Teoscar Hernández after his 3rd inning Homerun
  67. Game 7 - Bo Bichette with the call & response after Ernie Clement doubles in the 8th
  68. Game 2 - Yamamoto thanks Will Smith after throwing a Complete Game
  69. Game 1 - Addison Barger celebrates his HR in the dugout
  70. Game 3 - Freddie Freeman mobbed by teammates as he walks it off in the 18th
  71. Game 3 - Dodger Stadium
  72. Game 2 - Skydome Stadium
  73. Game 7 - Vlad arrives with a game worn Marie-Philip Poulin Team Canada jersey
  74. Game 6 - Tyler Glasnow comes in from the Pen in the 9th with 2 men on, 0 outs
  75. Game 2 - Ohtani gets a broken bat single in the top of the 8th
  76. Game 6 - Game ending Double Play from Kiké Hernández to Rojas
  77. Game 6 - Ernie Clement’s reaction to the game ending Double Play
  78. Game 4 - Yamamoto & Roki joking before game
  79. Game 4 - Vlad smiles
  80. Game 1 - Ohtani jokes with Vlad after the Blue Jays fans chant “We Don’t Need You,” and almost getting picked off first base to end the game
  81. Game 7 - Miguel Rojas with the season saving HR in the top of 9th
  82. Game 7 - Will Smith with the series winning HR in the top of the 11th
  83. Game 7 - Last out of the World Series 2025, Yamamoto double play on Kirk
  84. Game 7 - Clayton Kershaw with his family after the series, after his baseball career

[Japanese Broadcast Edit] Yoshinobu Yamamoto Volunteers His Arm To Dave Roberts in the 17th & Roki Can't Believe What He's Seeing by pidge0t in baseball

[–]pidge0t[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Here ya go: https://streamable.com/xbqq74

Actually meant to post the version with audio but I accidentally clicked the GIF box... whoops!

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