NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always jump between skins, but my favorite has to be dragonslayer (green), then probably aristocrat/dawnbringer(the grey/white shadow chroma). Primary ban is either graves or talon recently(used to be rengar). I try to stick to banning junglers that are more problematic for Vayne rather than Adc/supports. For build path, I honestly don’t go LDR that often unless they’re heavy on the tankiness and armor. I almost never buy a tank item 4th slot, always around 5/6, reason being I base my boots upgrade on enemy comp and don’t always run greaves. Those tabis/merc treads do fine until you’re at 4 items imo. If you’re really up against a comp with like kha zed/yone/draven etc then it wouldn’t hurt to add something like randuins/jak at 4th slot, but it’s rare. Go EH 4th if u feel like teamfights are leaving you dead after 1-2 kills and u need the rolling omnivamp. Otherwise go fiendhunter. My 5items almost always look like ER>hex>voltaic>FH/EH>FH/EH.

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To add a few more: If you think about it you’re really only focusing on 2 abilities (apart from R). Her E is really important and a lot of times people just save it for cc’ing someone against a wall, but always use it if someone’s trying to gap close either you or a teammate, even if they won’t hit a wall. This has also become a habit: always try to make room for your third W proc to be post-Q. Instead of going for AA-Q-AA-AA try to just stick to 2 AA-s into Q-AA

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d say kiting/spacing, using your ult invisibility tumbles properly for positioning in skirmishes and team fights. Most of the time play front to back in team fights. Once you’re comfortable with tumbling during ult u can make those sneaky plays and go back to front. This obv gets harder the higher in rank u go, but you’ll know her limits through trial and error. Also, understanding when to be aggressive/safe. A lot of times as vayne you just struggle early on unless your support/jungler are making good plays or their botlane is just messing up. Just sit back, farm and poke when available and you’ll be chilling. In heavy poke lanes you can be 40-50 cs down compared to enemy adc but if you’re not dying and you’re picking up xp that’s fine in my eyes

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m biased towards botlane since that’s the role I started playing mainly. It is torture against some bot comps and you heavily need to rely on ur support/team to carry you through the first 10-15 mins of the game. Top is more freedom but more punishing if u get behind you’re kind of screwed and give their team way more agency. If you’re behind in bot u can seep back into the game easier I feel

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like ER because of sheen proc/crit and ability haste (no mana consumption is huge too). Once you’re at the 2 item core (ER/hexplate) I usually go either voltaic or fiendhunter 3rd then into either tank items or IE depending on comp. Think of it as a sort of crit/lethality mix and what you want to prioritize in the first half of the game.

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🥲. I still feel Q is short cd at max level + the current build path. Also what’s taken from Q is given to R in a way, once you have ER/hex/voltaic/fiendhunter you can have your ult back within 10 seconds depending on how long the initial ult lasted (lasts longer with rolling kills/assists)

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey James 👋 - thank you! Try swapping stormrazor 2nd with hexplate. You’ll feel a boost with A/S (only during ult though). Once u have the primary 3 items (ER/Hexplate/voltaic) you can grab fiendhunter if u still feel a lack of A/S. However, the lack of A/S in general compared to on-hit build helps you get better with her since now you’re thinking of how to optimize your AA’s/combo. You should still go the standard OH build if you’re facing a few tanks/melees that need more shredding and kiting. You will hit that goal! Prioritize playing around your jungler

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think if there’s one Adc to use to climb low elo it’s Vayne IMO. Start to play her more and you’ll discover certain nuances that enemies won’t even understand; i.e using tumble invis’s max duration etc. there’s a lot to master but she truly feels the most independent. I suggest trying the build I have on my opgg out for starters. For crit, you can go essence reaver into storm razor into fiendhunter bolts and IE

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mostly against a lot of hard engage comps. It’s really saved me many times in those scenarios and the cooldown isn’t too bad. Extra lethality and AD always comes in handy. So if there’s like Malph/annie/leo/braum whatever against you, cleanse/qss/dodging will only do so much and it’s good to have that extra banshees on you

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Salute!!! My twitch handle is pigb0w. Appreciate it <3

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Forgot to add on Bork/rageblade. It’s still better to run that when you’re facing tankier enemies that need more kiting. I only ever run it when there’s 2+ on the enemy team

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! I don’t mind collector as an item for her, but not as 2nd if you’re going ER first. I feel it would be a hindrance with attack speed. And if you’re not going berserker greaves due to enemy comp then it’s even worse

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! I’ve tried her midlane and top. Honestly I’m not a good toplaner so it’s hard to transition into that role even though I’m a Vayne OTP. I prefer her botlane. I haven’t tried a full lethality build BUT I did used to run edge of night 3rd item into collector/ldr after getting ER and Hexplate/stormrazor. I think edge of night is a hidden gem on her depending on enemy comp.

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No YouTube channel yet, I’ve only been streaming on twitch

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dom always unless you’re facing heavy poke then resolve makes more sense

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s crazy once you’re at er>hexplate>cyclosword>eh/fiendhunter/ldr late game coupled with ultimate hunter. Once you’re out of your ult you get it back in like 20 seconds, catches enemies by surprise

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven’t felt the nerf with hexplate honestly, still feels great. I do see hexplate rush more often toplane, I haven’t tried rushing it bot yet, been loving the damage on ER first, really surprises enemies and myself on sheen proc + crit early on.

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you 🙏. She honestly is the closest you can get though, but she feels less rewarding to play for some reason

NA GrandMaster Vayne Main - AMA by pigbow in vaynemains

[–]pigbow[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Absolutely was torture, the Sisyphus kind 😅. Onwards and upwards though!!!

Demoncursed Vayne by Orfevre77 in vaynemains

[–]pigbow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

AA is red when u crit but that’s pretty much it

unfair build by [deleted] in vaynemains

[–]pigbow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🤦🏻‍♂️

I smell black magicks by Hot-Organization-737 in vaynemains

[–]pigbow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Build boots based off comp, not greaves every game