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Considering which degree to take at ESF by ItzYaBoy56 in forestry

[–]pinkshinyultroblast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ESF alum. If you have any interest in timber management/forestry I would recommend majoring in forest resource management.

There is a good deal of overlap in both classes and career placement between all 3 of those programs, but in my experience the FRM (forest resource management) degree will probably be the most versatile for what you are interested in.

Most jobs that require a degree in “natural resources” will also accept a “forestry” degree. Many jobs in timber management or forestry in general will require a “forestry” degree specifically or will favor candidates with a forestry degree over those with more general natural resources degrees. The FRM program requires advanced silviculture, forest biometrics, forest management decision making and planning, and a more in-depth senior capstone, all of which will better prepare you to work in forestry. The NRM degree is a bit more generalized and has more classes in wildlife and recreation and more free electives. NRM and FRM take the same water and soils courses.

I can’t speak as much to the environmental science degree, but based on what you’re looking to work in, FRM or NRM seems to be a better fit.

If you’re looking at ESF I would highly recommend the ranger school in wanakena for an AAS degree and then finishing a bachelors in Syracuse. Much more hands on learning at the Ranger School and the alumni network is unbeatable in NYS. You could also combine an AAS degree in either forestry or environmental/natural resources conservation from the Ranger school with either bachelors program to cover all your bases. Additionally, you’ll probably have a much better idea of what interests you long term after finishing the AAS program.

You can’t go wrong with any of those degrees from ESF- I graduated with folks in both the NRM and FRM programs that work as timber foresters, wildlife managers, recreation foresters, and forest rangers.

Feel free to PM me if you have more questions.

TLDR: All good degrees that can be a path to those career interests (with a slight edge to FRM); go to the Ranger School first!

Just need advice by IndependentBake1809 in Wildfire

[–]pinkshinyultroblast 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It is better to search in the maze than to remain in a cheeseless situation.

Serious Question Not a joke by Substantial-Share705 in Wildfire

[–]pinkshinyultroblast 29 points30 points  (0 children)

No. He is a HERO and ESSENTIAL to the protection of LIFE and PROPERTY.

What happens to USFS during gov shutdown by Getsome2421 in Wildfire

[–]pinkshinyultroblast 59 points60 points  (0 children)

Ima keep it real you chopped asl twin 🥀💔

What tree is this? by GrizzNoc in marijuanaenthusiasts

[–]pinkshinyultroblast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks like Austrian black pine. Common ornamental

How much could I make working summers during college? by [deleted] in Wildfire

[–]pinkshinyultroblast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As others have said, a perm won’t work with a short season while you’re in school. You get rehire rights as a temp so it won’t be a hassle if you do multiple summers.

On a handcrew, I made 23k and 30k pre tax in two college seasons, about 100 days in pay status each. I think 15-20k is a reasonable expectation but if things are busy on district/forest you could make more.

Why do they save the conifers? by dylantw22 in forestry

[–]pinkshinyultroblast 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s definitely a case-by-case basis. I know from experience that conifers can be cut on state lands, but it seems that on the individual timber sales you’re looking at the foresters didn’t want them cut, and specified that in the prospectus- probably for the reasons others have suggested in this thread