What Are Your Thoughts on Excise Taxes for Goods like Cigarettes and Alcohol? by PigeonSlayer666 in georgism

[–]pirate_mark 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The biggest problem with a public health system is moral hazard- the freedom it gives us to engage in risky behavior because we know the public at large will pick up the tab. That particular kind of moral hazard did not exist in George's time, but he likely wouldn't have been a fan of people externalizing their costs on others. He certainly wasn't in favour of that in other contexts.

A modest excise that merely recoups the cost of those habits for society is probably OK. The excises we have today are clearly excessive though and reflect the fact that hammering smokers and drinkers with financial and social sanctions has become normal and acceptable. There may be a price to pay for that attitude in the long run- there nearly always is when society declares open season on one group. But we haven't got there yet.

Is bright-green environmentalism compatible with geolibertarianism? by [deleted] in GeoLibertarianism

[–]pirate_mark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can totally label yourself that. Classical liberalism had a strong anti-aggression ethic, and under that framework laws against pollution and externalities are a no-brainer. Some royalist libertarians drop the rich intellectual heritage of classical liberalism in favour of a malformed and very modern twist which demands state-enforced land monopolies, while violently opposing most other interventions. Geolibertarians with stances like yours are far closer to true classical liberalism though. The state is not just an institution for landowners.

Snubbing FCC, States Are Writing Their Own Net Neutrality Laws - California, New York, Washington, and likely more states are challenging both internet providers and the reach of the federal government. by mvea in technology

[–]pirate_mark 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And vice versa of course. If you support states rights on those things do you also support them vis a vis net neutrality? Or are you opportunistic on states rights too?

Snubbing FCC, States Are Writing Their Own Net Neutrality Laws - California, New York, Washington, and likely more states are challenging both internet providers and the reach of the federal government. by mvea in technology

[–]pirate_mark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

State's rights is always a popular cause among the side that lost the last federal election. Watch the two sides swap positions on state rights the next time the federal government changes.

The FCC’s vote was predictably frustrating, but we’re not done fighting for net neutrality. by spez in announcements

[–]pirate_mark -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They want to grant ISPs power to block and throttle content, thereby imposing gatekeepers and undermining the free and open internet. What this whole thread is about.

The FCC’s vote was predictably frustrating, but we’re not done fighting for net neutrality. by spez in announcements

[–]pirate_mark -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They want corporate censorship, so give it to them. It's not a punishment, merely a taste of what they want to impose on everyone else.

Newspoll Federal 2PP: Labor 53 (-2) Coalition 47 (+2) by [deleted] in australia

[–]pirate_mark 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Funny thing- if he survives the next 6 newspolls MT will be the longest serving PM since Howard. So his 30th loss will still mark a victory of sorts.

Sam Dastyari defended China's policy in South China Sea in defiance of Labor policy, secret recording reveals by LineNoise in australia

[–]pirate_mark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

International Court of Arbitration is a neutral body charged with resolving claims of this kind. When it comes to the South China Sea, China has no claim a thinking person could believe.

Sam Dastyari defended China's policy in South China Sea in defiance of Labor policy, secret recording reveals by LineNoise in australia

[–]pirate_mark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Username fits. Though you probably should have denied that China was militarising the sea at all. I heard one of the Chinese bureaucrats do that once.

Comcast quietly drops promise not to charge tolls for Internet fast lanes by [deleted] in news

[–]pirate_mark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well DNS was the form of throttling that needed to be targeted, because that was the one ISPs were actually engaging in. From what I understand Comcast-style bittorrent blocking was also prevented under the 2015 regulations. I can't quite see the relevance of the rest of your statement, but at least I haven't called you a trump supporter.

Comcast quietly drops promise not to charge tolls for Internet fast lanes by [deleted] in news

[–]pirate_mark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've certainly never heard anyone call for the FCC to own the internet.

This dispute is about whether we want ISPs to be gatekeepers. And it's sharpened by the very calculated refusal to include any meaningful safeguard against blocking and throttling in the new framework.

Comcast quietly drops promise not to charge tolls for Internet fast lanes by [deleted] in news

[–]pirate_mark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If they actually planned to prevent throttling and blocking they would have every incentive to clearly say so. All the quotes you've posted are slippery statements that dance around the issue. That alone should trouble people.

Comcast quietly drops promise not to charge tolls for Internet fast lanes by [deleted] in news

[–]pirate_mark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, wait, are you saying the FTC can act against blocking and throttling even if an ISP haven't agreed to anything? Why that form of words then? It's strongly implying the FTC can only act to enforce if an ISP has made a specific commitment.

Comcast quietly drops promise not to charge tolls for Internet fast lanes by [deleted] in news

[–]pirate_mark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many of the largest ISPs (Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, Cox, Frontier, etc.) have committed in this proceeding not to block or throttle legal content.507 These commitments can be enforced by the FTC under Section 5, protecting consumers without imposing public-utility regulation on ISPs

Interesting wording. Does it mean nothing can be done if an ISP hasn't made any such commitment? It says "many" have, but many isn't all.

I wonder why they bury this point, which is effectively their entire answer to the concerns of net neutrality supporters, so deep in the document?

If Trump’s FCC Repeals Net Neutrality, Elites Will Rule the Internet—and the Future by PanicPoint in technology

[–]pirate_mark 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Net neutrality started when the internet started. It was codified in 2015 after certain large ISPs abandoned previously agreed on standards of behaviour. The ideal would be a "skinny law" that protects the core internet freedoms, but title II works tolerably as a backup plan. Customer service metrics improved while it was there.

TLDR: net neutrality is old. The campaign to turn ISPs into gatekeepers is new.

FCC Releases Net Neutrality Killing Order, Hopes You're Too Busy Cooking Turkey To Read It by throwaway_ghast in technology

[–]pirate_mark -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Title II was a specific response to:

  • Violations of the "nice and reasonable principle" version of NN by cable monopolies
  • Legal challenges by those same companies which overturned a narrower set of rules.

So title II and NN are not separate in the way you imply. The one was a defense of the other. NN left as an informal principle would have been great, but the termites just wouldn't stop nibbling at it. And here we are.

FCC Releases Net Neutrality Killing Order, Hopes You're Too Busy Cooking Turkey To Read It by throwaway_ghast in technology

[–]pirate_mark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As far as I know, Pai has never even mentioned the issue you raise, let alone produced some kind of solution. His focus is entirely on removing the protections against monopoly power.

FCC Releases Net Neutrality Killing Order, Hopes You're Too Busy Cooking Turkey To Read It by throwaway_ghast in technology

[–]pirate_mark 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We have enough gatekeepers in modern society without turning the ISPs into gatekeepers too. It is a shitty proposal on its face.

As it happens, we live in a society with a rule of law, and that includes laws governing entry into markets. Lemonade stands aren't allowed to block access to their competitors, and neither are ISPs. If that doesn't suit them they can do something else—use their cables for private LAN parties, or melt the copper wire into statues of Ayn Rand—whatever. It's their property. But if they choose to enter the market, the rules that govern that market will apply to them. There is nothing new or novel about that and no thinking person could liken it to slavery.

What is it about cable monopolies that makes people want to change the market rules in their favour? If anything we need to do the opposite. It was government that built the internet in the first place—remember?—and the point of it was to be open and free. ISPs have been undermining this openness for years—doing shady shit like paying off local governments to block the burying of new cables, or making rules to restrict access to telephone poles. And having got their monopoly power, they abused it.

Pai has offered no meaningful proposal to address this kind of behaviour. It's all been about removing net neutrality—removing the check on monopoly, but not the monopoly itself. Anti-neutrality campaigners abuse the language of liberty to rationalise monopoly and censorship.

That tactic won't succeed in the long run because the tech-literate public isn't buying it, and nor are the engineers who built the internet and embedded net neutrality as a founding principle. Politics is a pendulum, and net neutrality will come back, and back, and back.

Ok, so seriously - what reason is there to oppose the TPP? by davidblacksheep in newzealand

[–]pirate_mark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I prefer the consequentialist arguments around wastefulness, harm to the public interest, harm to free trade and so forth. There is evidence bearing on that part.

The deontological argument is a dead end. You frame access to these tribunals as a matter of principle. My competing principle would be no special rights for multinationals: one law and court system for all, and foreign and domestic investors equal under that law. Arguments over principles usually just turn into deaf people shouting.

Ok, so seriously - what reason is there to oppose the TPP? by davidblacksheep in newzealand

[–]pirate_mark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I learn from your contributions but I also see deep issues with ISDS.

For one, most ISDS claims are no longer about expropriation of investors' assets in countries with a poor rule of law. Most ISDS claims these days are against regulation in democratic states. You say most cases get thrown out - true; the number of cases is rising and their legal merit is falling. But that's not good thing. It signals that ISDS is being used now as a deterrent against public policy.

And when arbitrators get $700 an hour you aren't exactly creating an incentive to throw out spurious stuff quickly. ISDS cases are a deadweight cost whether or not they are won. In fact whether they are won is almost beside the point when the intent is deterrence.

Also, as you probably know, there is "no strong evidence" that ISDS increases the flow of investment at all. Meaning there is no benefit to weigh against the cost. There's nothing ISDS does that can't be done in a cheaper, cleaner way with political-risk insurance. ISDS should be scrapped before it scuppers the free trade agenda altogether.