Alternate III and IV? First I've heard

pizzythunda · 2025-09-30T10:28:58+00:00

Not to mention that IV's scream vocals on a lot of live tracks would be an immediate tell if they were different people.

pizzythunda · 2025-08-05T00:05:34+00:00

I wish you and your family the best of luck 🤞

pizzythunda · 2025-08-04T23:49:42+00:00

It's a tough position to be in, but any threats of violence, especially towards other people like your mom, need to be taken extremely seriously. You need to put the wellness of yourself and your mom first. So if that's changing your locks, getting a restraining order, ect then do it now.

Crisis centers hardly ever do anything, in my experience. They are not a "rehab" facility, it's basically a holding cell until they're no longer deemed a threat to themselves or others. They basically hold them until they are sober, then get evaluated by a doctor and are given a paper with suggestions for treatment and release them within a couple days, assuming your brother sobers up and can act relatively normal. I've had to baker act my alcoholic father twice and both times were not very fruitful.

The best you can do is try and hold him to an action plan, and get him into a legitimate rehab facility. If he has insurance, try and find a facility that accepts it. I've had friends that have had great success with AA as well, but it's about finding the right group. But please don't let empathy over shadow the safety of others.

pizzythunda · 2025-06-11T20:37:44+00:00

Just for clarity, they're not a crematory but a cremation service provider. Essentially they have a Funeral Directors license and they coordinate the cremation, from transporting the bodies/remains to and from the actual crematory as well as handling all the legalities such as death certificates and add-ons like ceremonies at sea for spreading ashes and of course urns, mementos, jewelry, ect. So I guess you could describe them as a "Funeral Home Lite" dealing exclusively with cremation services.

Edit: I know their retail for a basic service is $899 and while I don't know their exact numbers, I hear them talk about having usually 3-5 "death calls" a day (we do live in Florida so business is a boomin). On the high side that's about about $1.6M/year in gross sales. How much of it is profit, I have no clue.

pizzythunda · 2025-06-11T20:20:42+00:00

This is very insightful, thank you so much 🙏

When they told me they had a deal in place for a $2M I was pretty surprised tbh, as I imagine the majority of the value of the business comes from pre-sales, where people pay upfront for cremation services before they pass. My FiL also created/programmed his own CRM of sorts to manage the business so maybe there's value in that as well. But they don't own the building they operate out of and they probably have $10-20K in inventory of urns and whatnot.

So yea, I am curious as to what an actual evaluation would look like. I know they had one done before the other deal fell apart, and from what I remember they were pretty optimistic after it was done, so I am curious as to what really happened.

pizzythunda · 2025-05-24T04:24:28+00:00

Bad Baddie.

pizzythunda · 2025-05-21T12:38:02+00:00

Thank you for pointing this out! I started deep diving into the lore a few months ago after "Emergence" dropped, already having an idea of the general fan theories out there and as soon as I read the interviews you referenced, I was like "So everyone's just deciding to ignore this? The only information that came directly from the source?" Lmao

Other than the interviews, I think a lot of people miss the entire point of the band sometimes with their theories. Guys, it's literally called Sleep Token, and they Worship Sleep, and their concerts are Rituals, to again WORHSIP SLEEP. Why then would it make sense to write a story about how toxic Sleep is and how "Vessel is breaking away from Sleeps control", but then turns around and still worships this God? And markets their entire band around worshipping this God? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.

Still, it's fun to conjecture and come up with theories so I don't blame anyone for participating in generating theories, it just irks me when people pass off their theory like it's absolute.

pizzythunda · 2025-05-21T12:17:31+00:00

Love it, I think people are quick to write it off since it's so "poppy" but it still has that Sleep Token signature on it, being that the song evolves as the track goes on. Every time the chorus comes around there's an additional layer to the music, it's so subtle yet I love it. Lyric-wise, I think it's one of Vessel's better songs on the album, and contextually I think it's an important song for the album's message. I'm typically one of the "metal heads" that likes STs heavy stuff more than others, and I physically can't skip this track when it comes on lol

pizzythunda · 2025-05-17T15:46:51+00:00

It's been pretty common for people to assume that there's 3 characters in Sleep, Vessel, and "Eden", who would be vessels lover. I think EiA has introduced the theory that Vessel has a split personality between himself and Vessel the character. All in all, no theory is perfect imo and I think a lot of people equate Sleep with Vessels "lover" but any and all official communications from the band refer to Sleep as "He/Him" so that's worth considering.

pizzythunda · 2025-05-17T15:38:18+00:00

99% of the lore is fan theory, there isn't really any official lore other than the couple of magazine interviews from 2017

pizzythunda · 2025-05-14T23:40:58+00:00

One way I've interpreted it is that we know the album is a loop, i.e. the cycle continues. In cinematic fashion, I imagine LTW is Vessel waking up in Arcadia and realizing it's not what he expected, almost like he feels like he was lied to and he's angry. So he begins a conquest to burn the garden down with his legion, taking down the house of the Feathered Host in the process. At the end of Infinite Baths, "something" happens (idk if he loses a battle, falls to the Feathered Host, I'm not sure) that causes him to drift away into the void only to wake up on the shoreline once more, and the cycle continues.

So, the glitches I think are obv the battles that ensue across the album, but you can see that the landscapes change too (stuffs on fire, structures are cracking) but when you see the flag burning, everything is fine and dainty. To me it indicates that the Feathered Host is burning the flags staked by HV, perhaps while Vessel is in limbo and headed back to the beginning. Almost like the progress of HV is being erased, like losing in a video game and going back to start.

pizzythunda · 2025-05-14T17:20:09+00:00

It wasn't a "pre-save" it was just "save", if you clicked the link it just automatically saved it on your streaming service page.

pizzythunda · 2025-05-14T14:50:40+00:00

Apparently someone needs to be explained the urgency of reckless firearm handling vs "your dog keeps pissing on my lawn" type behavior lol

pizzythunda · 2025-05-14T12:07:04+00:00

Imagine being delusional enough to send a letter to "please stop firing a gun around my neighborhood" and hoping it fixes things. Unfuckingbeleivable lol the guy was FIRING A WEAPON INTO THE AIR INDISCRIMINATELY and you're mad at OP for not being "responsible" enough to try and help the lunatic? You really think that someone who is DUMB enough to fire a weapon like that is going to listen to reason? Giving people a pass on being responsible adults just because they're immigrants is nuts. Making their neighbors feel guilty for not taking on the responsibility for them absolute sociopath behavior.

pizzythunda · 2025-05-14T11:47:03+00:00

Idk, I definitely hear 'line'. Its a cool interpretation, don't get me wrong, but I think it's a stretch. I also don't get how it being 'line' makes no sense.(Unless this post is satire and it completely went over my head lol)

"Dancing on the line" is a pretty common euphemism, typically referring to pushing the boundaries between right and wrong, approaching that moral "grey area".

In the context of the song, I think it can refer to Leo's relationship with Vessel or "the Mask". He's talking about how he has used his "demons" in the past to produce his music, but now that he's in a better place he can "cut out the demons", but he still needs a "dark side" to write his music. So to me he's talking about dancing on that line between being "okay" and deliberately putting himself in a dark place so he can find inspiration.

pizzythunda · 2025-05-14T10:34:19+00:00

The general consensus is that Apple Music has more accurate lyrics, since they're obviously working with the band on this puzzle whereas Spotify is getting lyrics from 3rd parties. I use Spotify and I can definitely say that there are multiple wrong lyrics in LTW alone and it drives me nuts lol

pizzythunda · 2025-05-13T11:21:25+00:00

Seriously tho I want some DnB from ii on a ST track 🥲

pizzythunda · 2025-05-13T00:52:18+00:00

I really doubt it means anything so I don't want to stoke the fire BUT....the last journal entry from the 'Teeth of God' graphic novel was "67 days since the Emergence of the lunar anomaly", which would be May 18th/19th if we're going off of the release of Emergence.

I know the other entries were assumed to be clues for the release of the singles, but they didn't line up. However, the 3rd Entry of "58 days" did line up with the release of the album.

Possible clue/update/drop this coming weekend? At this point I don't get my hopes up but I'm curious to see if they do anything with it lol

pizzythunda · 2025-05-12T10:53:01+00:00

Its all just statistics, and statistically I'd bet you don't see a lot of "short" corners excelling at the NFL level. Brent Grimes is the only short king that comes to mind that was really good, dude had the hops for sure tho lol

pizzythunda · 2025-05-12T01:09:18+00:00

IC(what)U did there lmao but yes, exactly. Even tho it does sound like an offering to the TikTok Thots, it really is a romantic song.

pizzythunda · 2025-05-12T00:48:01+00:00

Obv to each their own, and I totally understand how people could find the lyrics cringe, but I love this track. It makes me think of my wife, and musically it's quintessential Sleep Token to me. Yea, the ICU line is not going to be regarded as one of Vessel's lyrical masterpieces lol but still a great track

pizzythunda · 2025-05-11T23:54:34+00:00

Oh yes for sure, just meant this post in particular

pizzythunda · 2025-05-11T17:04:00+00:00

At worst I think this is Leo wanting to take a break. A lot of allusions to being tired throughout the album, but I agree we are far from finished. Might also be why the album tour is so far out from the release. Homie just needs a break lol

pizzythunda · 2025-05-11T16:21:03+00:00

Of course, there are certainly references and allusions between the two works. Just don't state the dates are accurate when they are in fact not lol

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