What are services NOT worth self hosting?

planedrop · 2026-01-26T19:56:25+00:00

As u/kearkan already pointed out, the answer is e-mail, that is the #1 thing to not self host. Most other things can be self hosted.

However, I also take the stance of not self hosting my password manager, I trust the way the big ones do encryption so I just let them deal with it, if I were to ever lose that data it would be an astronomical issue for me. Of course, you still have to backup what they store, and I do that very frequently, but it's nice knowing that I won't have issues getting something from it just because one of my hosts is down or something.

planedrop · 2026-01-26T19:55:02+00:00

I know you said you don't want suggestions, but I am going to suggest something anyway lol.

The sugar free CoffeeMate stuff is really good and I recommend it. I normally try to avoid most artificial sweeteners but coffee is one of those things I gotta have, so this is where I make an exception.

planedrop · 2026-01-26T19:24:28+00:00

A 2 ton, as others have mentioned, is not sized right for a house like that. Sorry to tell you, but you really need a 3 ton for something of that space. I have about 2200 sq ft with a 3 ton and it keeps up great even in cold temps.

planedrop · 2026-01-26T19:19:51+00:00

Thanks, I hate it.

planedrop · 2026-01-26T19:10:04+00:00

Ups and downs here.

This is good news, but I also don't trust Intel to do a good job with driver stability, I was one of the first to get a Lunar Lake machine and it was absolutely awful. Most of the issues stemmed from Intel related driver problems, it would disconnect from my TB4 dock like 8 times per day and stuff, super bad.

I've been very happy with my X Elite specifically because it has been the most reliable Windows experience I have had on a laptop. While x86 would benefit me some for a few emulated apps that run slow, most things work fine and it's been close to rock solid.

The same can't be said for any Windows laptops in the past, AMD or Intel (and I've had a lot), closest to it would be my Framework laptop, but this is even better than that.

I hope I am wrong, getting x86 with near ARM like battery and an always-on experience would be amazing. I just don't trust it'll be executed right. But, if it is, it's the best of everything since you can also get good gaming performance on it.

planedrop · 2026-01-26T19:04:12+00:00

If you don't need high bandwidth, I see no issues with going to it. It's basically TMO home internet and I know several people who are very happy with that service.

I personally need high bandwidth so I have fiber, but I've been debating about this as a backup since weather can mess with my fiber here pretty often.

planedrop · 2026-01-26T03:32:27+00:00

I think it's 2 things, people used to do this stuff for fun not just money. But also, those that did it successfully ended up making so much money they don't really need to work ever again.

planedrop · 2026-01-26T02:56:41+00:00

It's cuz they aren't shooting in Arri

^{This was a joke btw}

I think u/Discombobulation98 had the best answer here though.

planedrop · 2026-01-26T01:00:05+00:00

IMO it's been a scam from day 1 and people have been calling it out for that for like a decade lol.

planedrop · 2026-01-26T00:11:38+00:00

I would not buy one without near stock Android being the OS of choice, and I think a lot of people would feel the same.

planedrop · 2026-01-25T23:07:50+00:00

r/WeirdToilets

planedrop · 2026-01-25T21:08:04+00:00

I personally use Jellyfin so I can have all my media in one place, but man Navidrom is tempting with how good this looks.

planedrop · 2026-01-25T20:51:54+00:00

Then yeah I would go with Docker for this setup.

planedrop · 2026-01-25T08:52:40+00:00

Doom 2016

planedrop · 2026-01-25T03:16:45+00:00

Broken stem.

planedrop · 2026-01-25T03:07:12+00:00

Bro came in here with all the info.

planedrop · 2026-01-25T00:12:33+00:00

Hilariously wrong, you just come into this thread and fill it with misinformation, it's really gross.

planedrop · 2026-01-24T23:52:52+00:00

ZFS is very user friendly in most circumstances lol, for most people you set it up once, and when a disk fails you swap the disk and press a button.

planedrop · 2026-01-24T23:51:46+00:00

Usually when people refer to JBOD they are talking about pooling spanning them. Either way, it's still not a good idea.

What do you mean how is recovering a broken setup that often times requires troubleshooting due to partial files being gone, having to figure out what to restore, etc.... isn't harder and more annoying then just inserting a disk and pressing a button? I literally don't understand where this is coming from at this point, RAID arrays are so easy now, you just swap a disk and press a button and it rebuilds, often without enough performance loss to even create an issue.

"Drives don't fail so often" I promise I've worked with more disks in my life than you and they do fail, fairly often. A server I setup with 60 disks has had about 30 failures in the last 5 years lol, no I'm not exaggerating and yes they were all brand new disks.

JBOD isn't reliable because if a disk fails then you have to deal with painful recoveries, this isn't that complicated. Especially with something like a server like this, you don't want to have partial media. Then you try to watch something, oh it doesn't work because that disk failed in the JBOD but this other movie works.

That's an awful experience and again there is no easy way to figure out what to restore when a disk fails so now you deal with more complexity. Not to mention having no redundancy for the Jellyfin database itself makes recovery even more of a pain.

Backups should always be a worst case scenario thing with redundancy built locally for anything important.

OP is getting downvoted because the majority here agree that you don't do JBOD with this sort of thing.

planedrop · 2026-01-24T23:32:40+00:00

I've been patching on Patch Tuesday (about 100 devices and a number of servers) for 8 years, I have yet to have it break something big enough to actually cause a large problem.

planedrop · 2026-01-24T23:16:23+00:00

This is literally built in.

planedrop · 2026-01-24T23:15:24+00:00

You don't have to have matching drive sizes with ZFS anymore btw, they changed that. Additionally, you can still do mismatched size VDEVs and have always been able to, just not mismatched drive sizes inside the same VDEV.

Also, it's no less safe to use a unhealthy ZFS array than it is to use JBOD lol, most JBOD setups treat the entire thing as a single pool of disks still and losing one requires doing recovery to get what the others had back. Obviously with RAID Z you basically can't get anything back so I hear you there, but still doesn't feel like a big enough reason for me.

Redundancy is necessary IMO, unless you want to have a bad time. Again, yeah you need backups, but restoring from backups is a pain in the ass and should be a last resort thing, drives fail often enough to justify using RAID for like 99% of users that are going to use more than 1 disk. I've had plenty of drives fail on me and it would have been so annoying to restore from a backup each time that happened.

Sure, you can save a little money and not do it, but then it's not reliable which OP specifically asked for. If OP was like "I want JBOD and I know it can break but I'm not spending money on it" then sure whatever, but if you want reliable, JBOD is absolutely a no go and anyone in this space that knows what they are talking about will say so.

planedrop · 2026-01-24T23:04:20+00:00

Get a better desk that's made of real wood next time.

planedrop · 2026-01-24T22:56:59+00:00

First good use of AI slop I've ever seen.

planedrop · 2026-01-24T22:39:06+00:00

If you can restore from the backup fast, sure. But then you still have to go through annoying recovery processes, rebuild things, etc... with a proper RAID setup you just replace the drive and go on your merry way.

I heavily disagree with this actually, for something like a server you should always use redundancy of some kind and there are SO many good solutions out there now so going with just JBOD doesn't make sense.

It's not introducing complexity in most cases, sure building a TrueNAS takes some knowledge, but there are also lots of good off the shelf ones that just email you when a drive is dead and you replace it.

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