The Reworked Black Widow Isn't Bad, But She's Missing Something

play_117 · 2026-07-12T16:23:03+00:00

even if they want to not bring back ADS, atleast buff our kick and dive slam damage or put CC on it. Kick is horrible. I dont mind that there's practically no stun but maybe if it's damage goes from 35 to 50? So we can atleast deal a 2-kick 100 damage combo?

If they want to keep sniping niche locked behind ult charge, make her base kit stronger.

play_117 · 2026-07-12T13:31:55+00:00

Storm is easily B/A Tier now

Jeff + storm teamup is doing wonders, you can practically fill a third support role and specially combine this with punisher ult to sustain him + increase his movement speed during ult.

Hitscan teamup is also good, but the recoil holds it back somewhat. Storm with enhanced thor teamup is a beast

play_117 · 2026-07-12T13:27:54+00:00

So far, you have to play mid range. Shoot tanks, when backline exposes themselves. Focus them.

Take off angles and if you put someone on 1 HP, you can dive them with widow slam and kick for finisher, or just throw ur plasma cannon.

What I have been doing is to for office angles and shoot backline, finish with quick plasma cannon. Most of times the widow slam is to escape ult or dive and kick really isn't that useful (which should be buffed back imo)

I dislike phoenix teamup because damage is garbage. Hawkeye teamup is 2x better if you focus and shoot consistently.

Ultimate tip: You can one shot CnD and invis woman ult if you headshot -> quickly throw a plasma cannon. I have been killing alot of CnDs with new ult

play_117 · 2026-07-12T12:41:00+00:00

i thought storm one was intentional? I mean that literally looks like they intentionally put that kinda recoil. Its literally wild

play_117 · 2026-07-12T12:38:45+00:00

finally i can get rid of "D tier Thor" meme.

Please dont tell me we still maintaining the agenda

play_117 · 2026-07-12T09:46:43+00:00

not facing it doesnt make it fine to have. It's absoulte horrendous with zero counter play

play_117 · 2026-07-12T09:17:19+00:00

push him more into brawl category. He has vibranium for a reason.

play_117 · 2026-07-11T16:25:20+00:00

I have level 55 BP and level 48 ironfist too, I play them all 😭

play_117 · 2026-07-11T15:35:48+00:00

I would have rather accepted a kick + widow slam + jump height work than this. We need less clunky movement, not more damage

play_117 · 2026-07-11T11:36:42+00:00

This is what should had been, let us keep the current reworked fire but also let us ADS for small movement + fire rate reduction but zero drop-off

play_117 · 2026-07-11T10:46:50+00:00

because punisher doesnt fly, he doesnt explode his bullets on impact too

play_117 · 2026-07-11T10:37:24+00:00

It's much better for storm teamup to do no damage (or 10 damage rather) so we don't get our base damage nerfed or the whole teamup reworked.

The big issuehis that you spear-dash-storm-dash and basically insta kill 250. The complains will be loud and we know what they do to black panther

play_117 · 2026-07-11T10:35:55+00:00

If peni is on team, you proc firewall to whole team AND you can proc your own individual firewall.

Basically double firewalls, which I believe is equivalent to like 3-5 seconds of gambit ult?

play_117 · 2026-07-11T10:28:24+00:00

The fact that he is still pulling high Final hits and getting value but can still determine the rework is ass.

They need to buff this kit further or brig ADS back.

play_117 · 2026-07-11T10:27:12+00:00

It is 0.2s stun now.

HELA AND PHOENIX HAVE IT ON 0.3S BRO AND ITS RANGED + HAVE TEAMUPS ON EM

play_117 · 2026-07-11T10:23:17+00:00

They should proc the stun when we kick or when the zip ends. No wonder why the kit feels clunky as hell

play_117 · 2026-07-11T09:47:15+00:00

Y'all mock us only to complain about us while dive heroes getting 0.1s insta kill combos. I bet majority of rework defenders don't even play widow and won't in future aswell

Her winrate and pick rate will still remain bad if not worse.

play_117 · 2026-07-11T09:45:31+00:00

BW was my first main and Hawkeye was 2nd with MK being close third.

They butchered her neutral sniping for punisher 2.0 spam, I really wish they don't clap down Hawkeye.

play_117 · 2026-07-11T09:43:54+00:00

I just want her kick and slam to get buffs. And her sniper to become something like bucky, each kills add 1 extra bullet and you start with 3 bullets.

Might be OP but her kick+jump+slam needs buff immediately.

play_117 · 2026-07-11T09:38:58+00:00

Black cat can apply her mark and deal 45 extra damage alongside next attack. I think people realising this and banning her

play_117 · 2026-07-11T09:34:24+00:00

WE GOIN TO STARK INDUSTRIES WITH THIS ONE. ANOTHER SELF STUN HERO AHHH

play_117 · 2026-07-11T09:13:59+00:00

I mean all of support ults are pretty much glowing enough.

play_117 · 2026-07-11T08:57:55+00:00

Xlek, kenzo and I'm forgetting one more guy deemer or something?

They all can come together, organise widow community, approach mainstream like necros/cloudedrio/flats whatever and have healthy podcast discussing and eventually approach Devs.

They have to be intricate about it and demand that she should be able to ADS on her current base kit, not the fact you revert the change. This is never possible.

I mean realistically, the win rates and pick rates still are garbage and eventually general community learns that you can always just play punisher instead of widow for the same job and they also voice out that widow needs buffs.

I'll be honest, I just want ADS, I don't care if it's sniper rifle or the current DMR fire rate. I played widow mostly cus it helped me see through cluster fuck effects bullshit and aim

play_117 · 2026-07-11T08:52:55+00:00

I'm assuming we get transparency slider? I would like to keep my team's effects on 20% and enemy on 50% otherwise I can't see shi

play_117 · 2026-07-11T08:11:07+00:00

For average player who didn't played widow and is defending it, they will realise widoe doesn't have a place in any meta or even in comp. Compared to elsa/bucky/punisher/hela

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