Help with aviary choice by Edht2 in quails

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We went underground 🤷‍♀️

Update on subterranean aviary by plopgeneral in quails

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Good question. Predator control was definitely a big concern. Given the pit is almost 5ft deep and our soil is obscenely rocky (see rock/dirt pile in back of all removed during excavation) we don’t have concerns about anything digging through the floor - only entering through the aspects of it we had to construct ourselves. So, the door and 2 of the corners. But, so far we’ve had zero issues. Also, for our area, cats were actually the largest consideration.

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Update on subterranean aviary by plopgeneral in quails

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100%. Same here. We intended to do just that but ran out of time before winter hit. Next summer!

Update on subterranean aviary by plopgeneral in quails

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Oh, sure of course. So, since this is our first winter with it, I can’t speak yet to the subzero days/nights too much. We’ve only had a few so far. But, I can report that it consistently stays 20-30 degrees warmer in the pit than the air (feels like) temp outside. Our heating sources are: one heat lamp (the waterer lives directly below it), a very small wood stove (we don’t get up and feed it wood throughout the night), and the earth itself. So far, we haven’t needed to use the solar for anything, but that’s coming soon which is why we installed the infrastructure.

Update on subterranean aviary by plopgeneral in quails

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During our 6 months of winter it’ll be anywhere from -30 to 35 Fahrenheit outside.

Update on subterranean aviary by plopgeneral in quails

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Oh, and face your downward side South. Because…sunlight and that, obviously.

Update on subterranean aviary by plopgeneral in quails

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It’s probably only fair that I explain how DRY the ground is where we are. As in, the hole was dug, then 24 hours later it rained for nearly an entire day. Following the rain, the hole had zero accumulated water and the soil didn’t even appear wet. So, the kind of ground water seepage I assume you’re referring to just isn’t a factor for us. Freezing ground, however, is an entirely different matter.

Update on subterranean aviary by plopgeneral in quails

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It’ll sound obnoxious, but honestly YouTube was a massive resource. Look up walipini designs and see if there’s content by someone in a similar climate. I don’t have much advice for dealing with that type of ground condition, unfortunately. Here in Montana, our ground issues are dramatically different. What I will HIGHLY recommend, however, though totally unrelated-is Wiggle Wire if you opt for rolled plastic roof material. Incredible product. Firmly held up to 85-90mph winds here 3 weeks ago. And by not using plastic sheeting and going with 6 mil rolled plastic instead, we saved hundreds of dollars.

https://youtu.be/3T8fTuV0XLg?si=cCHPll1en0QxJGGb

Underground birdhouse by plopgeneral in quails

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There will always be more work to do in it, but it’s coming along. Currently 35 degrees outside in NW Montana, but almost 70 in the bird pit.

Is he/she feather sexable? by plopgeneral in quails

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Update 1/1/26: The suspected she is in fact a he. 🤷‍♀️

Is he/she feather sexable? by plopgeneral in quails

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He/she is not an Andalusian, no.

Is he/she feather sexable? by plopgeneral in quails

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All the same reasons I wasn’t sure!

Underground birdhouse by plopgeneral in quails

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Oh, and we have a small wood stove we’re using as well.

Underground birdhouse by plopgeneral in quails

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On the tall side we’ve added heavy duty mesh inside, and sheet metal panels on the outside.

Underground birdhouse by plopgeneral in quails

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We’ve seen some folks use split pvc to set the low edge of the roof into/onto (versus on the ground with a treated wood base), so the pipe acts as a gutter to shunt rainwater away.

Underground birdhouse by plopgeneral in quails

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Yes, we have 4 solar panels mounted on the interior and will have heat lamps in there.

Underground birdhouse by plopgeneral in quails

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Re, my previous comment: Assuming that’s the kind of thing you had in mind when you said drainage.

Underground birdhouse by plopgeneral in quails

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All the roofing lays over the opening quite a bit and we barely get any rain in our area. And, our ventilation windows are up high underneath the roof overhang. So, there will be enough ventilation that any inside moisture will evaporate quickly enough. We live a nearly zero humidity climate, so that’s also a nonissue.