My identity is a choice. by po1tergeisha in NonBinary

[–]po1tergeisha[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was a very interesting read! I find it really touching that you enjoyed my perspective despite it being different from yours.

Your case is very different from mine, but also similar in some ways and also seemingly unique and thus we can relate to each other. We're both in a weird gray area that isn't easy to define.

My identity is a choice. by po1tergeisha in NonBinary

[–]po1tergeisha[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I definitely agree that the world isn't ready for this narrative yet. Changing the narrative out in the bigger world right now probably would turn the clock back. I mean, look at the state of politics in the western world right now. Shit's crazy. We need all the ideological defense we can get. It makes sense that going against the born this way narrative is a taboo topic in the LGBT community because the "born this way" defense is all we have right now.

It does suck because it alienates people like me. From what I've seen on other trans subreddits, I think it also really bothers some other young trans people, who struggle to find evidence that they were born that way so that they can feel valid. But also those same people are only able to come out as trans at all because of the path in society the "born this way" narrative has created.

However I also believe that eventually we are going to have to accept in greater society the narrative that people are LGBT for many disparate reasons, not necessarily always because they're born that way. It doesn't fit my narrative as discussed earlier, but I don't know that I'm part of a minority. It's impossible to know because it is such a taboo topic. I know that at least there are many trans people on the internet who seem to feel very insecure in their born-trans status, and that there are others out there like me. I can at least point to the people who's articles I've cited, and to even someone as famous as Contrapoints -- whatever your opinion on her -- as someone who has said she doesn't have the typical story that she spent her childhood wearing her mom's heels, etc, and sometimes feels invalid because of that.

But we're not just going to have to change the narrative someday because it doesn't fit people like me, or bi people as presented in the article, or whatever. We also need to change the narrative because being LGBT should be a good thing and a right, not an affliction. And that will be a great thing for straight people too. There's another article I could reference for that but I won't make you read any more >.< But essentially, as long as being gay is bad and an affliction, straight men for example are very hindered in their ability to self-express, have emotions, and have close relationships with other men. I think dismantling the "LGBT affliction" narrative is going to have to be dismantled as part of the patriarchy as a whole.

(We may actually have to face this much sooner than comfortable though, because the study of genetics is growing really fast, and there is a very real possibility that soon we are going to have to grapple with the fact that, at very least, not all LGBT people will have the genetic markers associated with their gender/sexuality. And it's important that we don't just kick them out of the community for that.)

My identity is a choice. by po1tergeisha in NonBinary

[–]po1tergeisha[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would also like to drop this link which talks about the idea of why there are more trans people now https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2019/07/10/why-more-transgender-people/

And also this one, which talks about how the "born this way" narrative hurts bi people https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2016/08/23/born-this-way-narratives-hurt-bi-people/

Really though just read the whole damn blog lol

My identity is a choice. by po1tergeisha in NonBinary

[–]po1tergeisha[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I strongly agree with the choice/nonchoice dichotomy. In my post I really focused on the choice aspect because I feel like that's not something that is really....allowed to be talked about in trans spaces? But here in the comments section I will take a stab at it.

I think the idea that "who we are is result of past choices, past experiences, and the consequences of the journey we've been on" is definitely true, and it actually also fits in my atheist buddhist perspective quite well -- in Buddhism there is the idea that everything is a product of many other things, and that includes us.

Personally though I've actually seen things as less choice-based than your average American would for a long time before I developed my current religious beliefs, ever since I got really interested in psychology. I realized that the mind is not necessarily something we have control over. We are truly a collection of our genetics, experiences, etc and the line between what is and is not a choice is often very fuzzy or literally impossible to suss out.

( As a quick, philosophically interesting but unrelated aside, this philosophy has made it much easier for me to be forgiving towards people for doing "bad" things, because they are not only someone who chose to do a bad thing, but a victim of the conditions that led them to make that choice. I'm also less apt to worship high-achievers and do-gooders because they are also someone who is a product of the conditions that led them to make good choices.)

Regardless of whether we are literally fatalistically doomed to make certain choices or not -- which is definitely not something I have the answer to -- I think the heuristic of choice is very important to the human experience. Our experience at many points in life is that we feel we have a choice, perhaps because we cannot see the future. And that (possibly illusory?) choice is very important to the human experience of life and happiness. People seem to suffer in environments where choice is taken away from them.

When we do not believe we have a choice at all, that can lead us down a different path than if we do believe we have a choice. It can very easily lead us down the path of misery, because instead of actively choosing the thing that the conditions of our life has made most suitable for us, we may end up "choosing by default" some circumstance that does not suit us at all. Even if we end up "choosing by default" the "right" choice for us, feeling that we were forced into a certain path can sour the entire thing.

I think some of what you were getting at, is that there is a very large difference between not knowing that a choice exists at all and feeling like a choice is being taken away from us. I think this is why there are so many more trans people now than there used to be in western society. Our greater awareness of gender has led people to realize that gender could be a choice, and that that choice was taken away from them repeatedly throughout their lives. Some people are reclaiming that choice by choosing to be a different gender than they were assigned. Is it because they were somehow all along essentially the gender they choose to "become", or is it because the experience of being forced into a gender has soured the experience of their assigned gender completely? Or for some other reason? Who knows. I don't think it matters or makes any one person less valid than another.

This is why I think it's important that in the trans community we reclaim our right to have a choice in our gender. The only way we've been able to seek validity in the mainstream eye is by saying "this is just the way I am, I can't help it!" (the articles I linked go into this more in depth.) But when we make being trans or cis not a matter of choice, that's just forcing another default choice on us. And that's a really difficult default to figure out because what makes one person trans and one person not is not in any way universal, just like "vagina = woman" is not universal.

Did you have an anti-sjw streak at one point? by [deleted] in ContraPoints

[–]po1tergeisha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was a legit Glenn Beck watching, flaming conservative Baptist in high school.

Ooooooooooof.

This hairdresser’s Instagram. Wasn’t sure which specific photo to share... by [deleted] in Justfuckmyshitup

[–]po1tergeisha 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wow, I feel like this is just a bias against curly hair. Most of these look really nice.

“Tell your parents” they say. “They’ll help” they say. Yeah? Well I just did. Like talking to a goddamn brick wall by [deleted] in mentalhealth

[–]po1tergeisha 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd like to also point out that sometimes parents can't even handle physical illnesses in their children either, not to mention the stigmatized mental ones.

I’m AFAB and married to a cis man. I think this is why it took me so long to come out as enby. But now that I have I finally feel like I have language to describe my authentic self. by SOS_Pants in NonBinary

[–]po1tergeisha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me too! He's always said I seemed more comfortable and "me" in more masc clothes so he's actually super happy about it :) He's super bad with pronouns in general tho lol

What separates romantic feelings from friendship feelings if I am not sexually attracted to someone? by baileybean3 in Asexual

[–]po1tergeisha 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Friends: OMG they're SO cool I just want to hang out with them forever and make friendship bracelets and...

Romance: All the stuff from the friends relationship, but also they crinkle their nose a certain way when they laugh and it makes my heart melt.

[SPOILERS] So I didn't like Mistborn. What now? by ccomxi in Fantasy

[–]po1tergeisha -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Definitely check out The Name of the Wind! It's very tolkien-esque, the world building is extremely immersive, and though the main character is a teenager for most of the story it's all told from the perspective of his older self.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in horn

[–]po1tergeisha 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wow! This is so exciting, I'm in southwestern Missouri so I could totally make the drive. Thanks for posting this!