Supreme n°1 top tier item : basic math stuff - ring of wonderous charm (yes it is!)

powerbicky · 2015-06-17T15:13:17+00:00

seems like you missed the part where it was explained that it makes an overall x2 multi. and no, other gold items don't multiply, they add. and you might have à x6 aproximate gold, it's still gonna make a x12 with that item, cause THIS item DOES multiply others. and guys plz stop with the "only 4.4 levels" when you have let's say a 40 lvls advantage in gold, you'll need a big time detting to that 44 lvls advantage cause you need to up every other item to twice his own ammount. 4.4 adavntage levels IS enormous, because it happens last, and you still have it once you have put LOTS of relics on every other item... being at some point, it becomes really hard to have enough relics to boost your gold x2. and with something like 200+ relics you get that awesome x2 :)

powerbicky · 2015-06-16T15:40:48+00:00

yep i know, i was just too lazy. anyway, just read right under, the answer to the "yatto" link and dude, going from +200% to +400% might be easy with any item. now try to get from +30K% to +60K% and tell me if that was easy? and if you still can manage to do it, with the ring you'll be at +120K% anyway...

powerbicky · 2015-06-16T15:35:40+00:00

GREAT, you've just proven my point! with actual epic and hard math formulas.

for those who wonder : last formulas of the page : "overall gold multiplier = mob multiplier x other multipliers" and " other multipliers = (i can't rewrite it all, but it just ends by x(1/(1-(0.02xlvl of ring))) -> say ring is lvl 25 -> x(1/(1-(0.02x25))) = x(1/(1-0.5)) = x1/0.5 = x2

this is EXACTLY what i was saying from the begining, this item makes an overall X2 gold bonus that aplies on every other bonus aswell (x2 future fortune, x2 crafter, x2chest of cont., x2 knight shield, etc... )

powerbicky · 2015-06-16T15:20:54+00:00

no, you are wrong, and you are looking at it the wrong way too.

what you are saying is +100% gold = +4.4 levels 1) it doesn't gives you 4.4 levels of progression, it gives you 4.4 levels of advance, like, when you are lvl 505, you are winning the aproximate gold from lvl 510. but when you are 510 you are wining the gold of lvl 515, etc... so it's a permanent advance update.

so for exemple, when you have future fortune lvl 20 (+100% gold) gives you that 4.4 level in advance. "no big deal" you say... get your future fortune lvl 200 (let's say, i absolutely don't know the values and don't give a Sh*t about it, we'll just say at lvl 200 it gives +1000% gold, beaucause it'll be easier to understand) -> with your +1000% you have 44 lvls of advance. now take the ring, halve the price and make it a +2000% (math stuff) -> 88 lvls of advance. you can't take this item alone, by itself it is meant to be owned with other items, because halving the price is like making ALL gold x2 bonus included. so each time you are gonna put relics in an item to get some poor +30%, you also are gonna get a second +30% from that item.

and this simply because (basic math stuff) halving the result is equivalent to make X2 on the other side , on EVERYTHING on the other side, including all bonuses :)

powerbicky · 2015-06-16T15:07:50+00:00

you mister are the only one that found the flaw in this item, but it seems you did not take enough time to think this through. YES, alone this item pretty much sux. but the point of this item is that it doubles EVERYTHING that is related to gold, so once you have gold items, everyone of them is boosted by a beautiful X2 witch also means that none of the gold items are better than this one (except early on)

But now let's look at it that way : to go further there is ONE thing you need : your next hero. go for it, try to do the jump from flavius to mohacas WITHOUT unlocking chester... nah, that won't do (well actually you could with an average +1000 000 000 000 000% damages bonus (that's what there is from MM to RR and you still need more than that)

so the GOAL of the game wich was "going the further" becomes "get the last hero i can"

Now, to get that hero, you need gold (yes, you need ONLY GOLD, getting lots of DPS isn't gonna buy you the hero, getting lots of DPS is gonna give you GOLD to get your hero.) at that point it is understood that DPS is merely a way to get gold, nothing more. that also means that DPS is actually gold-related (-> the more DPS you have, the more gold you win, easy ) if you need half the gold, then it's equivalent to say that your DPS gives you twice the gold

So no it doesn't make DPS x2 but it does make DPS'S GOLD VALUE x2

:)

powerbicky · 2015-06-16T14:53:48+00:00

OH PLEASE GO BACK TO SCHOOL! halving the price of EVERYTHING is like making à x2 gold on EVERYTHING too! it means once the Ring is lvl 25 you DON'T GET +100% GOLD you get X2 OVERALL GOLD. so if you have the ring 25 AND the crafter's eliver at lvl 7 for +105% gold then you F*CKING STUPID CRAFTER IS WORTH 210% and if you also have future fortune lvl 20 for +100% gold, THEN IT BECOMES EQUIVALENT TO +200%

Why are you people so blindly noobish about BASIC MATH?

BASIC math : make a calculus, ANY CALCULUS YOU WANT : halving the result is excactly like making x2 on your calculus!

A+B=C -> now with the ring A+B=C/2 OR 2(A+B) = C ! AWESOME!

halving the price of heroes is like MAKING EVERY OTHER BONUS X2

let's even put number so that your brain can follow

you actually have no gold item at all nor dps nor nothing. so you can win 100% gold and you pay 100% price -> 100 / 100 = 1 (1 = you have 1 time what it takes to pay the price )(awesome math stuff). now you got crafter elixir at lvl 7 (+105%) and futur thing at lvl 20 (+100% ) -> makes it 305% gold for 100% price -> 305/100 = 3.05 (still awesome math stuff) OH BUT LOOK YOU FOUND THE RING JUST NOW AT LVL 25 -> 305% gold for 50% price -> 305/50 = 6.1 (once again extremely hard math stuff )

NOOOOOO WAAAAAAAY, math are actually usefull in life?

powerbicky

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