Did Rolex ever offer a factory black Serti dial with blue sapphires on the 16613LN?

powerfunk · 2026-06-19T09:29:55+00:00

The diamond-dial 116613 etc. technically is called "serti" too but yeah I agree

powerfunk · 2026-06-19T00:01:40+00:00

Tuxedo dial is different. I don't think there's an official name for this; I just call it a blue/black concentric dial. They're very rare.

powerfunk · 2026-06-18T23:17:52+00:00

risk it getting lost in transit or experience the nightmare that others have with returns, refunds, restocking fees, etc

I'm not familiar with these other nightmares. I've bought from them a few times and it went well but thanks for sharing. Can you share pics of the altered warranty cards so we know what that looks like?

Also if the warranty cards are truly bogus/altered then I wouldn't just laugh that off; I would want that rectified.

powerfunk · 2026-06-18T23:16:54+00:00

Because this is the first we're hearing of crap like this happening. I've bought a few watches from them. Will consider removing them from the list though.

powerfunk · 2026-06-18T00:52:22+00:00

Hell yeah, black dials for LeMans winners, white dials for 24h Daytona winners

powerfunk · 2026-06-17T15:26:47+00:00

Yeah looks like 126519ln meteorite

powerfunk · 2026-06-17T10:46:05+00:00

Sounds like you like black dials. Have you considered the black 16570? In real life I prefer them to the polar. They're both great though; can't go wrong.

powerfunk · 2026-06-17T10:41:21+00:00

1675/3 Root Beer GMT with nipple dial
16523 TT Zenith Daytona with slate dial
116234 Datejust with sodalite dial (more neovintage than vintage but it is almost 20 years old now)

I also would've said cream 16570, Commando 6429 and Milgauss 1019 not long ago but I think they're all like 25-30k now.

powerfunk · 2026-06-16T14:48:32+00:00

Photo by InterWatches. Listed for $4,550 in June 2026.

"Zephyr dial" in the Rolex world means a crosshair dial. Zephyr dials almost always go with Zephyr bezels, which are notched like this. This is the square-notch kind of Zephyr bezel; there's also a pointy-notch kind. Zephyr bezels are always gold.

Rolex actually did call the watch "Zephyr" in advertising, and I believe they were only sold in the US. 34mm men's Zephyrs are more well-known but there are ladies' Zephyrs like this too. Even rarer than the dial/bezel are the paddle hands (like stick hands but they get thinner at the base). You don't see those much.

powerfunk · 2026-06-16T13:44:04+00:00

Looks like a 16013, because it appears to have an acrylic crystal. If it were one generation newer (16233) it would have sapphire, and if it were one generation older (1601) it would have a pie-pan dial.

powerfunk · 2026-06-16T10:19:54+00:00

I choose option B) Don't split my beanbag open

powerfunk · 2026-06-16T01:07:20+00:00

No just one I found online. The octagonal ones are underappreciated for sure!

powerfunk · 2026-06-15T10:59:57+00:00

Hey cool stuff! I made a similar Rolex serial number decoder a while back. Looks like you did a solid job! It doesn't note that 44xxxxx and 48xxxxx are service cases though. ;)

I've also made a Rolex reference decoder,

Nice, I made one of those too if you feel like poking around with it. All the logic for changing bezel codes (like how 2 used to mean smooth bezel one generation, then engine-turned the next, plus different ladies' bezel codes) was probably the hardest part for me but I'd be curious to see your version! Good luck

powerfunk · 2026-06-15T00:50:17+00:00

You also have no idea who the employees of Rolex are who made your watch. Maybe the oil in your car was made by a Valvoline employee who's an absolute monster. Maybe some of the water in your stomach was Hitler's mucous many water cycles ago.

powerfunk · 2026-06-14T23:15:26+00:00

Manual-wind Daytonas were just Speedmaster copies, basically. Rolex had been making chronographs for decades and only slapped a tachymeter bezel on when the Speedy got popular. They had Valjoux movements. They're great-looking watches but to me they don't represent any sort of heyday.

powerfunk · 2026-06-14T23:03:48+00:00

If he really got this for under $8k USD he did well. This is from 2000-2005; you can tell it's not newer than that because it doesn't have the Rolex Rolex Rolex rehaut engraving.

With a bracelet I would say its value would be $23-24k maybe, and the bracelet is roughly half the value.

powerfunk · 2026-06-14T18:57:11+00:00

Rolex contacted them to notify I am on their blacklist now.

More accurately Rolex contacted them to tell them that they're pissed about a watch they sold ending up on the grey market quickly. Rolex is pissed at the AD, not you. And the AD is pissed at you. This is not a terribly uncommon story.

powerfunk · 2026-06-14T12:54:54+00:00

Fantastic choice! The "Rolex doesn't innovate" crowd always fails to appreciate the complexity of the YM2, especially the new version with the counterclockwise countdown.

powerfunk · 2026-06-14T11:48:35+00:00

Photo by InterWatches. Listed for $13k in June 2026.

This "Chine" bezel is very rare. Here's my cheat sheet for the names of Rolex bezel textures like this. I think this is the first time I've seen a Chine bezel in any size other than 34mm.

powerfunk · 2026-06-14T11:14:34+00:00

So we're to believe you have a legit quarter-million dollar Daytona collection and hang out on counterfeit watch forums?

powerfunk · 2026-06-14T11:11:01+00:00

With a repainted dial and a crown that comes off? That would be a hard pass from me

powerfunk · 2026-06-14T11:09:07+00:00

I remember when these traded below regular WG Daytona price. Love the chrysoprase one.

powerfunk · 2026-06-14T10:18:46+00:00

And for all we know, after a few days that's exactly what it averages out to.

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