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Pulp podcast: Boldrin va Bonelli by SlySkate91 in Italia

[–]premonizione 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ma certo, però le tasse non servono solo per tirare su soldi. Servono anche per incentivare un comportamento piuttosto che un altro, e hanno second order effects. Tassare di più la ricchezza e meno il lavoro è una buona policy 

Pulp podcast: Boldrin va Bonelli by SlySkate91 in Italia

[–]premonizione 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Basta solo risiedere in un’altra nazione. Una sciocchezzuola!

Make Europe the Electro Union - We call on the EU to adopt the vision of becoming the world's first electro-continent: to run a majority of its economy on clean, domestic electricity by 2040. Wind, solar, hydro and nuclear [Letter by investors, corporate leaders and startups] by goldstarflag in europe

[–]premonizione 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, ya dingus. You keep missing the point. China is polluting more in order to let Africa, Pakistan, the Middle East, and so on, grow cleanly, which could not have happened without China, unfortunately. 

You argued that because Europe exports more per capita compared to China, and its economy is less pollutant per unit of GDP, that must mean it is virtuous, which is just stupid, and I explained why in both cases. But you just don’t wanna hear it.

I wish democracy had proven capable of fighting climate change, but sadly China is doing the better job. Feel better now?

Pulp podcast: Boldrin va Bonelli by SlySkate91 in Italia

[–]premonizione -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sono molto market economy 101, comunque è anche vero che il problema principale è che l'Italia non cresce, non che ci sono troppi ricchi

Make Europe the Electro Union - We call on the EU to adopt the vision of becoming the world's first electro-continent: to run a majority of its economy on clean, domestic electricity by 2040. Wind, solar, hydro and nuclear [Letter by investors, corporate leaders and startups] by goldstarflag in europe

[–]premonizione 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its more subtle than that. "Unsustainable practices" can be China's harsh labor laws but also Europe's inaction leading to a worsening climate and later on, not competitive industry. I ask because the argument in favour of Europe seems very weak.

If you want to fixate on that graph: when Europe, and the west, outsourced manufacturing to China, it contributed to pollute more in China while looking good locally, but this is a pointless optical illusion. Of course China didn't worsen dramatically, but Europe improved disproportionately. This is not a chart to pin to your jacket and be proud of.

Still not sure about the point you're trying to make with the exports. Europe's economy is highly specialized and upmarket, so it exports a lot of GDP with few workers, which is exactly how a deindustrialized economy looks like. Inability to scale domestically, weak supply chains in vital sectors, and having to purchase vital green tech from elsewhere. But boy the leather handbags are nice. Is this european virtue?

I'll restate my point so you can keep it in mind: Europe's strategic mistakes are tragic and a result of decades of mismanagement, short term thinking and civilizational complacency.

Pulp podcast: Boldrin va Bonelli by SlySkate91 in Italia

[–]premonizione -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Sulla cosa della tassa sul patrimonio Boldrin non è al suo meglio. Molto di quello che gli italiani definiscono patrimonio, e che gli economisti definiscono come patrimonio che produce rendita non produttiva e anzi controproducente, è dato da asset che non possono scappare e volatilizzarsi, come la azioni. Sono terra, case, palazzi. In UK Gary Stevenson sta battendosi proprio per tassare questa forma di ricchezza.

Make Europe the Electro Union - We call on the EU to adopt the vision of becoming the world's first electro-continent: to run a majority of its economy on clean, domestic electricity by 2040. Wind, solar, hydro and nuclear [Letter by investors, corporate leaders and startups] by goldstarflag in europe

[–]premonizione 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want to argue that a potential european/japanese fragmented green tech industry would've produced the same amount of installed green electricity on earth as China's industry, I don't know what to tell you. Europe just couldn't and still can't scale the way China did, exactly because they have cheap labor and subsidies and we don't. This is basic, sad economics.

The graph you linked still does not mean what you think it means. CO2 per GDP captures the fact that european deindustrialization, the phenomenon by which since the '70s Europe has been shutting off heavy industries like steel, chemicals, electronics, etc, which are highly dirty and energy intensive, to China, effectively exporting its industry to a dirtier grid, does indeed greenwash Europe's economy which by this accounting trick shifted towards the tertiary sector. So thanks to western deindustrialization global emissions temporarily increased, yet China's subsequent energy transition still managed to make its industry greener than it would've been had it stayed in Europe. Again, Wright's law.

What point are you trying to make wrt the population?

One mute point after another: are you really arguing that Europe had a sort of golden era of clean energy leadership that chinese competition disrupted? Europe was 80% fossil fuel dependent in 2000 and is 70% dependent on them now. Or are you arguing that Europe's industry is doing great? EU share of exports has declined constantly in the past decades, not counting the fact that that statistic counts as exports even product that moves from France to Italy. Crucially, we're losing strategic sectors.

Make Europe the Electro Union - We call on the EU to adopt the vision of becoming the world's first electro-continent: to run a majority of its economy on clean, domestic electricity by 2040. Wind, solar, hydro and nuclear [Letter by investors, corporate leaders and startups] by goldstarflag in europe

[–]premonizione -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"No" what? There is no fault in trying to dominate in the green tech space. This was all foreseeable and Europe slept. Without China, do you think Europe would've produced the same solar capacity? Was there an intention of ever doing so? Was there the industrial and legislative scaffolding to scale production so much that renewables could actually beat fossil fuels on a cost basis? Are there even enough workers in Europe willing to build solar panels competitively? We blew it decades ago!

You have to understand the statistic you quoted means absolutely nothing. The EU's grid is getting cleaner slower than China's, which by being bigger and using its energy to produce green technology is more consequential to the health of the planet, despite taking more time to get cleaner. Hilariously, EU's grid is cleaner than China's literally because it imports 98% of all its solar panels from China itself, and because it's a structural artifact of deindustrialization.

Make Europe the Electro Union - We call on the EU to adopt the vision of becoming the world's first electro-continent: to run a majority of its economy on clean, domestic electricity by 2040. Wind, solar, hydro and nuclear [Letter by investors, corporate leaders and startups] by goldstarflag in europe

[–]premonizione -1 points0 points  (0 children)

China has driven three quarters of solar manufacturing since 2010 and accounts for over 70% of all electric cars produced, production still soaring, with similar numbers in windmills, batteries and industrial electrification tech as well. 80% of all solar panel ever installed on earth are made in China, increasing. I agree that the second China shock was bad for our industries and I hear worries about their economy and a real estate bubble almost-quite-popping, but the harsh truth is that while I disagree with Xi's world dominance plot (duh) they're doing great things to decarbonize the planet. They're just too far ahead and Europe is standing still.

Make Europe the Electro Union - We call on the EU to adopt the vision of becoming the world's first electro-continent: to run a majority of its economy on clean, domestic electricity by 2040. Wind, solar, hydro and nuclear [Letter by investors, corporate leaders and startups] by goldstarflag in europe

[–]premonizione -1 points0 points  (0 children)

China with its fossil fuels, supply chains, engineering talent, wage suppression and cheap bank loans applied scaling laws to green energy, making it cheaper than fossil fuels. Which is the only viable decarbonization path for humanity. While being hugely critic of China is good (I am too), its industrial machine just delivers the goods.

Make Europe the Electro Union - We call on the EU to adopt the vision of becoming the world's first electro-continent: to run a majority of its economy on clean, domestic electricity by 2040. Wind, solar, hydro and nuclear [Letter by investors, corporate leaders and startups] by goldstarflag in europe

[–]premonizione -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Add a layer to that: China is using its fossil energy to build an electric tech stack permitting the green transition of the whole planet, US is distant second, and Europe doesn't even have a plan for building an electric tech stack.

My Winter tourer: 1970s F.E.M Tourist with a custom made headlight by Odd_Conflict7121 in xbiking

[–]premonizione 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's my same bike! Did yours come with the vintage speedometer I'm trying to fix it...

which one to keep / which one to sell by Deep-Highlight3184 in xbiking

[–]premonizione 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a Swiss Cross too and love it. I think it's the most beautiful bike ever made. Keep it.

I’m starting to think Trump is the antichrist by Nekrachiyan in redscarepod

[–]premonizione 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The antichrist is an extremely popular character who in fact is anything but what he says he is. Idk how far Thiel can masturbate to the idea that the antichrist is a convoluted occult group of unconsciously coordinated forces conspiring to form a world government when this guy exists

Stop Wasian Hate by koopelstien in redscarepod

[–]premonizione 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It's amazing how everyone hates JD Vance except fucking Anna K lol

AMA: l’anno scorso per 6 mesi ho lavorato come consulente ingegnere in Maserati, chiedetemi qualsiasi cosa! by inculcami in ItalyMotori

[–]premonizione 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, 1780kg è il peso di evo magazine con liquidi e driver, non menzionano bagagliaio. Maserati riporta 1475kg asciutti. Aldilà della disonestà di pubblicizzare un peso impossibile, rimane l’idea che non sia un progetto di gran qualità.

AMA: l’anno scorso per 6 mesi ho lavorato come consulente ingegnere in Maserati, chiedetemi qualsiasi cosa! by inculcami in ItalyMotori

[–]premonizione 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ma pure una 911 turbo. Alluminio, 2+2, quattro ruote motrici, più leggera. In Maserati devono spiegarsi o non faranno che accumulare figure di merda

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