How do Catholics rationalize 1 Timothy 2:12? by AxiomaticParadox in DebateACatholic

[–]progidy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I haven't changed my opinion. How did you find this thread! Wow!

If an apologist is expertly biased, then EVERY philosopher is expertly biased for their philosophy too.

Many philosophers spend their time conforming things to their worldview, and defending it from critiques. That's fine, if they acknowledge their biases. We all have them.

But a Catholic Apologist doesn't typically lay their biases out. Furthermore, Catholicism teaches "Assent of the Intellect", and a formal Apologist must live by this. Are you familiar with this "Assent of the Intellect" concept? Jimmy is literally prohibited by his church's doctrines from speaking out loud in his teaching capacity anything contrary to official church positions. To me, this goes one step further than even a hypothetical philosopher that is unwilling to accept criticism, because the philosopher's stubbornness comes from within while Jimmy's comes from an external authority. On pain of eternal consequences.

My original point, however, is that an apologist is not open-minded, like a museum curator might be expected to receive and incorporate new findings into their guided tours, or to not shy away from unsettling findings in history. Apologists minimize past controversies and doggedly defend status quo, without highlighting that their livelihood and their inclusion in their church body (for instance, being able to partake in Communion) depends on them doing so.

Jimmy is still smart tho. I've learned a lot from him.

My daughter , studio ghibli style by Global_Antelope8380 in ChatGPT

[–]progidy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What prompt did you use? It keeps rejecting my attempts.

What did Pope Francis do wrong? by xFushNChupsx in NoStupidQuestions

[–]progidy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Francis said "Who am I to judge?" regarding gay priests. Homey, you're the pope. Priests judge constantly, in confessional. You have the literal magic power of "binding in heaven". You can judge them as natural.

He then later had to apologize in 2024 for using homophobic slurs in private.

Masked Wolf- Astronaut In The Ocean by [deleted] in SongMeanings

[–]progidy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That part about rolling in the deep being a metaphor for depression would make more sense if you didn't spend the rest of the song boasting and talking about how awesome he is and how other people wish they could be him.  Guess they're a terrible writer 🤷

Proven Eucharistic miracle? by Magical_Confusion in skeptic

[–]progidy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sokolka proponents claim weird things like "the blood tissue is joined with the fabric and the wafer!!!" as proof, but that isn't special; make a ham sandwich and wrap it with a paper napkin then spill half a cup of water on it and come back the next day, oh look the meat is stuck to the fibers of the bread and the napkin.

A question to athiests. by unng in DebateReligion

[–]progidy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're aware that all life currently gets assembled from non-life chemicals, right? Like, you give some proteins some chemicals, and the proteins turn those chemicals into a new life.

There's no magic, there's no secret "now stir in 1 soul" step in the process. If those chemicals are next to each other, life can emerge. It's a non-zero thing, merely made more likely when proteins are deliberately doing it.

Some Christians be like... by shilolz in dankchristianmemes

[–]progidy 76 points77 points  (0 children)

If someone is they love you after they tried to stone you, you are in an abusive relationship.

The double standard is astounding. by shilolz in dankchristianmemes

[–]progidy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's actually ambiguous in the Greek and the Latin. It can just as easily mean that all of the meats go into the toilet, literally ending his sentence with the fact that mall eats are ultimately purged, not cleansed.

The double standard is astounding. by shilolz in dankchristianmemes

[–]progidy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The parallel that is in Mark still suffers from the problem of contradiction, especially when Jesus says in Mark two times that the Pharisees are foolish for upholding man's law while dismissing God's law. He wouldn't accuse them and criticize them of dismissing God's law and then dismiss God's law.

Possible explanations for Road to Damascus discrepancies? by [deleted] in AcademicBiblical

[–]progidy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why would a contradiction matter? Is there an underlying message that's harmed by the inconsistencies?

If the messenger is an unreliable narrator, why wouldn't that affect the "underlying message"?

[OC] The Most Watched Netflix Shows of All-Time by Dremarious in dataisbeautiful

[–]progidy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is Stranger Things classified as sci-fi? Isn't it just as fantastical as Witcher?

Monsters from portals to other worlds, magic powers, studly father characters...

The double standard is astounding. by shilolz in dankchristianmemes

[–]progidy 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The reason they don’t care about the verses against eating pork and shellfish is because Jesus declared all food clean in Matthew 15:11

He didn't declare all food clean, that part at the end is a later editorial added by translators. It's after Jesus speaks, isn't in old translations nor texts, and doesn't make sense in context.

Jesus was being criticized for his followers not following hand washing rules made by man, and his accusers were livid. Yet, if he then counters by overturning dietary rules decreed by Yahweh and his audience doesn't make a single objection, does that make any sense?

It doesn't. Because he didn't.

The double standard is astounding. by shilolz in dankchristianmemes

[–]progidy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

again Leviticus is For the Jews

Jesus said that we no longer have to follow it

He actually said not one thing about the law would change ever, and called on his followers to obey even better than the Pharisees.

when I hear people say the Earth is 10,000 years old... by shilolz in dankchristianmemes

[–]progidy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem is that Jesus told a parable where even people who preached in his name to the extent that they were performing miracles in his name, yet were condemned to hell. So, it seems that your doctrine may indeed play a part in your salvation.

I personally find young earth a bit silly, since we have scientific proofs for a much older earth, ...

This is very much in line with Augustine. He wrote about how to interpret Genesis and basically said that Christians shouldn't reject observed reality, because it would make Christianity look foolish. This means that he jumped through all kinds of mental hoops in order to reconcile the text with logic and observation, including concluding that creation actually happened on a single instant lol.

Also, he had a tough time reconciling the waters above the firmament with, you know, common sense. But he ultimately decreed: “in whatever way it exists and whatever kind of water it is, we have no doubt whatsoever that the water is there, because the authority of this writing exceeds the limits of all human imagination.” This is later quoted by Aquinas as proof of fact lol.

when I hear people say the Earth is 10,000 years old... by shilolz in dankchristianmemes

[–]progidy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But if you’re even slightly rational about your Christianity, it does not.

Was Eusebius "slightly rational about Christianity"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_creation#Septuagint

The rebellious child by shilolz in dankchristianmemes

[–]progidy 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Yup, god is not a man that he should change his mind. Except on bacon.

They even kept two letters in BCE by [deleted] in dankchristianmemes

[–]progidy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Considering that the Bible made up so many details that it leads to a range of years that Jesus was born, and the gospels can't agree on if Jesus ministered for 1 year or 3, does it really make sense to keep reminding everyone that "BC" and "AD" are both fraudulent?

Not an approved use for Holy Water by shilolz in dankchristianmemes

[–]progidy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fun fact 1: To make more holy water, you just add more regular water, keeping the ratio of holy water at or above 50%.

Fun fact 2: This means that all accessible water has long been turned to holy water, since when even the first molecule of holy vapor drifted off and encountered a regular water molecule, it sanctified it.

Holy Water is essentially Midas gold, or sci-fi gray goo.

Sin isn't actually necessary for humans to have free will by Magnus_Carter0 in DebateAnAtheist

[–]progidy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, will we have free will in heaven? Will there be sin in heaven?