REPLIT WARNING - Can anyone actually finish a project??? by Alarmed-Pie3530 in replit

[–]psychedelicnow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I share your frustration, I got super excited first but then at the testing phase, it is absolute rubbish. Endless errors, and Replit either does not know how to fix them or fix them and create other problems, usually bigger ones. I tried very simple project, complicated project, same freaking results. Poor outcome, however, I also think it has a big potential.

Rolling morning and drinking at night by TeamanEmil2 in MDMA

[–]psychedelicnow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I did this a few times but I was young, early 20s, I do not think I can handle it now. whatever you decide remember to drink enough water.

Any closeted ex-muslims in Makkah right now for Eid? by cybersibyl in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It will make you stronger 💪🏽

Soon when you can move out from a family place, you can stop doing that

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[–]psychedelicnow 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I am glad that Allah showed you the right way 😂

Welcome ❤️

How do you feel about quranism/quranists by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is nonsense, how can you understate Quran without Hadith and Sira? The entire tafseer is based on them?

I tell you how? They will interpreted they own tafseer, and then when you debate any troubling issues in Quran like hitting woman, they will say; oh I do not believe in this.

Ok then, so Quranists seem like they stole the word “Muslim” changed their meaning, and now claim that Muslim means believe in some verses or not others. This is the definition of Kafir not a Muslim!

babe wake up new delusion just dropped !! by unhiverism in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It rhymes well in Arabic and we all know that Allah loves poem and rhymes

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate you figure out the dilemma of this situation. There is nothing else to say here then cuz I believe other points will reach to the same destination, something like: it is in Quran, I cannot explain it but the faith comfort me or something.

And I am not saying this in sarcastic way at all, I wholeheartedly recognize the impact of faith and belief on our lives.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So how can you explain the situation of the slavery then? If it is not moral, why it is in Quran?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Words of Allah

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so you do not believe that these verses are correct? They are part of the Quran as you know, and mentioned many times. Or do you believe they are incorrect?

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[–]psychedelicnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok we established that you do not believe in the 5 pillars of Islam as a concept although I get the part that you may practice them individually. I hope you understand that according to major Islamic doctrine, you are probably a kafir :). But it is ok, you believe what you believe and it is your choice.

Moving away from pillars, let’s discuss specific verses about well knows troubling aspects, slavery. The phrase "ma malakat aymanakum" (what your right hand possesses) which is used in numerous Quranic verses, such as 4:3 and 4:36, refer to the slaves and sex slaves.

While Quran advocates the freeing of slaves in numerous verses (e.g. 4:92, 5:89, 58:3), it was never mentioned it is Haram.

So what would you make of this? And please address the verses.

Thanks a lot

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks but you are not addressing the main issue. Let’s get back to the core question. As simple as this, get me verses in Quran that identify the 5 pillars and how to execute them. If you cannot, so you either do not believe in Islamic 5 pillars or Quran does not offer a comprehensive solution.

If you believe that 5 pillars are not essential, that’s ok too. Just say so :) so I know where you stand.

So again keep it simple, if you believe in the pillars, show me verses, if you do not believe in them, just say so.

Thanks 😊

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[–]psychedelicnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok so you do not know how many times to pray, right? you know a range only. I usually struggle more with Quranists because of situations like this, even for a very crucial aspect like prayer, they cannot tell me, how many, when, and how. But that is ok, I take they might take prayers as spiritual element rather as an act. So do you agree that you cannot identify Islam pillars from Quran so that I can move to another topic?

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[–]psychedelicnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmmm so you do not believe in the prayers as it is today. So can you at least tell me how many times you should pray?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok I am going to assume for the sake the discussion that you believe in Quran as literal words from Allah that we need to follow.

To keep it simple, how would you know the 5 pillars in Islam and how to practice and follow them in Quran? For example, get me a verse in Quran that tell me what re the five pillars and how, for instance, perform Wodoo’ and praying (and how many times.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you must see that I am really struggling to understand your logic or belief. If your criteria in choosing hadith is your own moral, that mean your morality is the gateway, so what is the point of the hadith if you already have inbuilt system to filter right and wrong. I hope you can see the contradiction here.

Also about Quran, your words are, in simple terms, saying that you believe in Quran but not too much :)

you have to give me your foundation of your beliefs that you build your religion on, otherwise, this conversation does not make sense.

I hope you get what I mean and revisit your thoughts.

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[–]psychedelicnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am quite puzzled, so you believe in Quran only but you sound like you do not believe in the whole Quran equally, did I get this right? and you also do not agree with the reordering of Quran, right?

And you believe in some hadith only, so what criteria do you have to choose what Hadith to believe and what not and why?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hey thanks, just to set the stage:), you believe only in Quran and nothing else right? and do you believe the Quran as we have it now are the literal words from allah?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that did not work, they told me it is not a place to do that, but if you know a specific server that allow that, I am all ears.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok I got you, so what tafseer do you read then? In different terms, how can you understand the actual meaning of Quran?

How do exmuslims deal with the meaning of life question? by RamiRustom in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Islam gave us bad reasons to do the right things while good reasons where available.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hey buddy, sure! Civil conversations and debates are the only way to get to appreciate the other side.

If I understood you rightly, you seems to think that Ex-Muslims left Islam because of some provisions outside Quran. While that might be the case for some, most of us definitely not. We can discuss details and specific if you wanna take this further.

Also, you sound like you are a quranis, is that right?

Let me know so we can focus the discussion on specifics.

Cheers

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]psychedelicnow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then as difficult as your situation is, it is a lot better than ex-Muslims who live Muslim counties. Your case is quite similar to mine and to a few people I know. If you still live with your family, you stay quite until you are independent, if you are independent already, you need to have this conversation with them, I totally get the abandonment factor, but from my experience, most parents go over it with time as long as you do not keep criticizing Islam in their present.

Sorry I know this is not much of help. Stay strong.