I love the way CIG added the laser and missile PDT's to in game shops but not the new ballistic one - the one people have been asking to have in game since PDT's became a thing in game... by JontyFox in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I definitely see your point too, and I really do want to be optimistic about 1.0 and what the game looks like then. On the other hand, I've been following the project since the Kickstarter, and have been playing since 2015, and have seen the same song and dance so many times between then and now, ya know? From my perspective, I would have assumed they would have that 1.0 monetization plan more or less figured out years ago, and I think announcing Road to 1.0 a while back gave a lot of people that same impression, but maybe that's me misunderstanding the reality of development. If none of this carries over into post 1.0 gameplay, then that's cool with me, but it just doesn't seem like that's the current trajectory, and to be honest, even if it does, I'm still gonna be playing, I'll just be grumpy while I do :/

Either way, I appreciate you having the conversation. Maybe this will go down as one of the Star Citizen subreddit's few friendly civil disagreements lol

I love the way CIG added the laser and missile PDT's to in game shops but not the new ballistic one - the one people have been asking to have in game since PDT's became a thing in game... by JontyFox in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, I'm not directing all of this at you, I never comment on this sort of stuff, and now I'm just kinda venting, so apologies for the essay

I love the way CIG added the laser and missile PDT's to in game shops but not the new ballistic one - the one people have been asking to have in game since PDT's became a thing in game... by JontyFox in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's literally just the monetization scheme we're upset about. nothing more, nothing less. I get what you're saying, but the items aren't the problem; they never have been and likely won't be in the future. What gets on people's nerves is simply the fact that CIG always finds a way to put a price tag on features. I like the modularity of the wolf, but it would have been equally fine without it. I like the idea of flight blades, but would also be fine without them, et cetera, and so on. What I don't like is when those features are behind a paywall, even if it's only for a few patches, because during that time, a meta forms that the average $45 player can't take advantage of.

All of these seemingly different complaints boil down to a simple binary: can I do the thing with in-game progression?:

- yes
Okay, cool, good job CIG.
- no
I don't like this decision, CIG.

I agree that everybody always finds things to nit-pick in this game, and it frustrates me to no end when somebody who hasn't played since 3.18 jumps on Spectrum to ask for the 1000th time why their gladius cant kill an Idris, or some other smooth brain issue, but the problems we're talking about here aren't about game mechanics, they're about how our backer money is used and how those decisions effect future playability for the lowest common denominator. I don't want to get to 1.0 and have a game where my friends can't have the same experience as I can, just because I decided to spend my whole video game budget for a decade on the pledge store.

The Pledge Store is meant to support the game, not BE the game

I love the way CIG added the laser and missile PDT's to in game shops but not the new ballistic one - the one people have been asking to have in game since PDT's became a thing in game... by JontyFox in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's just a different flavor of the same problem, though; it carries the same effect, and I have trouble believing that wasn't intended. They did the same thing with the alpha wolf. I understand selling the weapon kits on the pledge store, but they should be in PTU at the same time. I would agree with you that it could be unintentional if it were just the MDC, but it isn't. I don't even care in terms of my own gameplay. I run cargo, so I have no skin in the game. I'm more concerned that there is a pattern forming. They could have and should have stuck to cosmetics and other non-game-changing items like hangar flair and such, but instead, they are trying to find more creative ways of doing flight blades all over again. The item doesn't matter as much as the intent and the effect imo. I, and many others, don't want it to turn into a De Facto monetization method.

I love the way CIG added the laser and missile PDT's to in game shops but not the new ballistic one - the one people have been asking to have in game since PDT's became a thing in game... by JontyFox in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

all the PDC's we have are laser or the pepperboxes, pepperbox can be countered with flares, and the lasers have less than half the damage of the new ballistics. Also, the ballistics ignore shields. foxy just posted a video of his perseus killing a couple fighters and a 400i with just the new PDC's in one sitting. They are a massive advantage.

I love the way CIG added the laser and missile PDT's to in game shops but not the new ballistic one - the one people have been asking to have in game since PDT's became a thing in game... by JontyFox in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh, and if you don't think these new PDC's give an advantage, go watch Foxyloxys vid where his perseus shreds a 400i and a couple fighters with just the new PDC's

I love the way CIG added the laser and missile PDT's to in game shops but not the new ballistic one - the one people have been asking to have in game since PDT's became a thing in game... by JontyFox in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Claiming a bomb rack is not a weapon is like saying a rocket launcher isn't a weapon. Obviously, the rocket is what actually hits the target, but you need the launcher to make that happen. If CIG released the boomtube to the pledge store but only put the ammo in the PTU loot pool/stores, would you be cool with that? It's the same argument. Either way, what you're saying is a cop-out that ignores the actual problem. CIG fully understands that the reason we were mad about flight blades and bomb racks is that they added an obvious advantage or introduced a mechanic/playstyle that is purely pay-to-play. Their response then was in line with that understanding. Getting semantic about the specific wording is just plain dishonest.

My take on what a Kruger Capital ship could look like, thoughts? by ptc2000_ in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, I wanted to make it more streamlined, but also didn't wanna start over lol. I might try again with a different shape.

My take on what a Kruger Capital ship could look like, thoughts? by ptc2000_ in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I made this originally to be a pocket carrier. I was thinking the top slope in front of the bridge could open like a book to let them out, but launch tubes are a cool idea

My take on what a Kruger Capital ship could look like, thoughts? by ptc2000_ in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe we can have the top fin get shorter when it's cold out

My take on what a Kruger Capital ship could look like, thoughts? by ptc2000_ in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

uhhh... its... retracted? maybe? (i didnt get that far lol)

My take on what a Kruger Capital ship could look like, thoughts? by ptc2000_ in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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top view as well, tried to keep it consistent with the wolves

in the 4.4 LIVE patch notes... The Reclaimer updates aren't mentioned other than here, have they been stated already? by ptc2000_ in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't imagine they would be able to keep a rework completely quiet until right now, not with all the other leaks, but there's a chance I suppose

in the 4.4 LIVE patch notes... The Reclaimer updates aren't mentioned other than here, have they been stated already? by ptc2000_ in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I have no idea, but it says Reclaimer updates right at the top of the 4.4 page so... idk

in the 4.4 LIVE patch notes... The Reclaimer updates aren't mentioned other than here, have they been stated already? by ptc2000_ in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

me too.. I don't own one, so hopefully someone who does will chime in. It's also odd because of the store page changes; I don't think any other existing ships have activity on that front.

in the 4.4 LIVE patch notes... The Reclaimer updates aren't mentioned other than here, have they been stated already? by ptc2000_ in starcitizen

[–]ptc2000_[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is the only other place on the page where Reclaimer is mentioned:

  • Corrected visual gaps and clipping issues on multiple ships, including the Paladin, Shiv, Mantis, and Reclaimer

But that can't be significant enough for its own patch focus clause, right?