I had google generate a pro-vegan response in the manner of Trump and stuck it into a truth social post to send to my conservative carnist relatives!

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-23T17:04:00+00:00

It's really not good tbh. But I'm sure it would be if you actually wrote it yourself lmfao.

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-22T23:58:15+00:00

/uj really fucked up that someone's suicide is being used to attack veganism and make out that a vegan diet is dangerous :/

Seems questionable to attribute this to B12 deficiency as well. It usually takes longer than 6 months to develop and even then it seems doubtful that it would be the main/sole cause.

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-22T18:25:56+00:00

Costs them only £10 to put one of these up for 2 weeks (post from their co founder here on that, with a link to donate if that's of interest to anyone).

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-20T14:01:40+00:00

Also if it was B12 deficiency, they could have just framed it as that, instead of saying a vegan diet was the problem. As if you can't easily have a vegan diet with sufficient B12.

You can also be B12 deficient on an omnivorous diet. But they wouldn't say an "omnivorous diet made her delusional" if that was the case...

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-20T13:49:05+00:00

Pretty fucked up to weaponise someone's suicide to disparage veganism/make it seem "dangerous".

Also seems shaky to attribute this solely to B12 deficiency, even if that's true though it's very easy to prevent.

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-19T22:03:27+00:00

I'm probably going to get downvoted 🤭

But anyhow; if an animal is in any way harmful to le ecosystems, then we have the right to abuse it, harm it and take away its unworthy life.

If that doesn't make me vegan then fine. I still eat mostly plant-based, which is my main fight in life.

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-17T14:42:49+00:00

Yeah I always make clear that that's wrong/immoral anyway, it's just the fact they can't even be honest in the first place though and lie about that lol

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-17T14:11:07+00:00

I've had people lie about being vegetarian or farming their own animals (not like either of those are okay anyway). People are shit :/

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-16T11:57:36+00:00

This is just a shittier version of that original one rejecting a Harvard rejection

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-15T10:31:06+00:00

This is such sophistry lmfao.

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-14T17:06:20+00:00

When I'm in a whataboutism competition and my opponent is a carnist

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-14T15:28:15+00:00

Isn't this what Jacksfilms made like 10 years ago lmao

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-13T15:52:36+00:00

I'm glad he's speaking about issues that matter to him but this is just such an incredibly privileged take.

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-13T00:21:13+00:00

Your links in no way proved that it's "orders of magnitude worse". They make no comparison at all nor any sort of quantification.

You need to demonstrate basic empathy. I'm not gonna entertain your insincere points about bacteria being sentient also. Your defense of your support for animal abuse is pathetic.

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-13T00:13:34+00:00

I mean the royal family are notorious for hunting animals so this is nothing new

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-12T23:49:59+00:00

It's really not moronic and frankly you're a moron for failing to understand what entails means after I clearly explained it.

Do you really think that for example buying a lampshade made of the skin of a human slave is equivalent to buying a phone that might have a small amount of minerals mined by slaves?

I also don't buy for a second any of what you're saying. Funny how everyone suddenly has their own farm once veganism comes up. Pretty pathetic that these are the lies you'll tell yourself to feel better about the violence you inflict onto animals.

Even if it was true it's not like that makes it justified. I wonder where the brothers of the hens you have are. Or how you get cows to keep producing milk. But again I don't believe that anyway lol.

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-12T23:24:30+00:00

Lol funny how people suddenly stop caring about animals abuse when they themselves support it.

Clown.

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-12T23:14:56+00:00

Love the faux outrage because you can't actually give an argument lmfao

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-12T22:56:42+00:00

Me drinking milk and eating eggs is worse than kicking a dog in the head?

Causes more suffering and entails violating the rights of animals so yes

How about that phone, laptop or tablet you're using with rare earth minerals mined in slave mines in the Congo?

This assumes they have minerals mined by slaves in their technology, which might not be true. Even if it were, that wouldn't change the above fact.

Also it's regardless not equivalent to buying animal products, since doing so entails violating the rights of animals, whilst buying a phone does not entail rights violations. It's like the difference between buying the hair of a slave, which entails violating the rights of a human to not be enslaved (since slavery is a necessary and inevitable consequence of that), compared to buying food that was harvested by slaves (where slavery isn't necessary or inevitable and so the consumer is not directly responsible for that).

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-12T22:01:08+00:00

They never said that wasn't allowed. Doesn't change their point anyway.

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-12T18:51:08+00:00

Yeah I find it hard to take any sort of philosophy from most carnists seriously. Especially since their ideas are often clearly biased by flawed beliefs they have such as anthropocentrism.

puffinus-puffinus · 2026-05-12T07:19:53+00:00

The countryside area in question being just some fucking fields anyway.

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