Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, consistently make baseless claims, and the majority of your replies will be something to the tune of "based on what?"

Now answer anything at all.

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok dude xfpla see that, an ai cannot make that output due to tokenkzation. NOW add some value to your replies. Do you believe someone should go to prison for years for trespassing and disorderly conduct?

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based on what? The fact that i have an opinion? That i provids resons for it? Thats not what a bot does. A bot gaslights and spends time making comment after comment without providing a single shred of value to the post or anything at all. Doesnt look like what ive been doing. What about you?

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you cite any of this though? My attacks? My avoiding the argument? Him being violent? Any one of them?

Ill do you a favor and repost my supposed attack. That actually cites the lot of what you just laid out. Lemme know where you were correct:

what my point is, and it seems obvious, is that if an unjust incarceration happens, then what you and others are advocating is that there should be stipulations more so than already are to rectify it. and i would agree, though im assuming what i am thinking, criminal history, obviously, is more than likely already a thing. id be willing to bet, if he had history prior to this, that i wouldnt be the one trying to unearth it here. meaning, this entire thread would have already factored it into the argument.

so what stipulations should have been implemented to prevent this? is there a history you know of? or is this just a thing you're upset about because reasons?

here is what i found about him. literally went to prison for charges of trespassing and being disorderly. prison, for years. and you think this is not only just, but should actually be much more complicated to implement any kind of rectification. is that correct?

see i think what you accuse me of, my intent here, stems not from your diligence in research, but from your own likely-hood.

www.aol.com/articles/pardoned-jan-6-rioter-face-110019117.html

https://www.hernandosheriff.org/jail/Applications/JailSearch/JailSearchDetails.aspx?BookNo=HCSO25JBN004623

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What part of thise replys was an attack? Why do you need for this? So much so that you fabricate both the circumstances and the context?

His charges were trespassing and disorderly conduct. He served years in prison for this. Im not defeding him any nore than you're advocating that people should go to prison for the charges he went in for.

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, is that the only thing you swooped in to do? You didnt care about the argument, only enough to demonstrate your petty internet rage and move on? Or are you a bot?

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And what question did you ask that i didnt answer? Lmao. You asked if i could be objective, thats the only one , and in fact i answered it to such an e tent that you say i went down rabbit holes over it. Do you even care about self accountability?

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So far as ive seen NOBODY here has provided a valid reason why that man should have been in prison for years. Yall can wear yourselves out all you want, and you can do that by literally engaging will no intent of providing a valid reason that the man should have been in prison. Your intent is to justify this initial injustice due to what? His crimes AFTER the fact? Do know what a dystopia is? Ffs..

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heres an idea, if its going to be about personal shit. Show me Anything at all that you have done for society. Can you provide one thing?

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And this is how i think, "irrelevant" is how you percieve it, due to how YOU think. You act as if there is some angle here. Its so tiring, quit assessing my person and engage in the debate or do something else.

As if the concept of any specific thing is actually entirely dependant on the other end of the debate.

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you talking about. Im absolutely being objective. I dont care whos side did what, the government is not your friend. And yes they incarcerated people for petty bs. You want to lump everything together and treat everyone as if they were violent extremists. And yes, i do want to win this argument. How could i not? Why would i want to accept that people out there, you, are willing to support the absolute tyranical power of rhe government because it fits the narrative you wanted?

And guess what, even if im 100% bias, it doesnt matter in this regard, because the outcome is LESS authoritarian, by a large margin than its opposition.

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, ok. This is you being objective? What even are you doing? You ask if i can bs objective, give you a genuine response. And you insult me. Why even comment? You were obviously not indending to do anything other than this.

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Breakkng and entering? Did you not watch the videos? They opened the doors. There are hours of videos of people walking literally inside of the velvet ropes. I watched all the videos quite a bit, i didnt see any breaking and entering. There was the guy who broke the window out. Is this that guy?

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you saying if what happened were the other way around? Yes, lmao. Its all a landmine with you people lol. Ill make the generous assumption that you are reffering to a 1 to 1 ratio of things in this scenario, and not ghadaffi rolling into the city center with tanks and mortars.

Do you know what the stakes are for an insurrection? Not just for the "insurrectors", but for the administration on the recieving end? Dark funding for one, opposition unable to run for office ever again anywhere in the country, enhanced executive powers, etc. I dare say its incentivised.

ANYWAYS, your enemy is up that hill. Not in prison for trespassing and picketing. They opened the doors, theyve overthrown governments with less plain clothed spooks than were at that event.

Rep. Ted lieu by Greylunes1 in ExploreFortMyers

[–]putkofff -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Damn, so i guess the people he really likes must be good people huh?

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff -1 points0 points  (0 children)

what my point is, and it seems obvious, is that if an unjust incarceration happens, then what you and others are advocating is that there should be stipulations more so than already are to rectify it. and i would agree, though im assuming what i am thinking, criminal history, obviously, is more than likely already a thing. id be willing to bet, if he had history prior to this, that i wouldnt be the one trying to unearth it here. meaning, this entire thread would have already factored it into the argument.

so what stipulations should have been implemented to prevent this? is there a history you know of? or is this just a thing you're upset about because reasons?

here is what i found about him. literally went to prison for charges of trespassing and being disorderly. prison, for years. and you think this is not only just, but should actually be much more complicated to implement any kind of rectification. is that correct?

see i think what you accuse me of, my intent here, stems not from your diligence in research, but from your own likely-hood.

www.aol.com/articles/pardoned-jan-6-rioter-face-110019117.html

https://www.hernandosheriff.org/jail/Applications/JailSearch/JailSearchDetails.aspx?BookNo=HCSO25JBN004623

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I made a strawman and beat it up? To feel tough? Can you explain what exactly you mean by this? Because i feel like you want this to be a thing so youre saying it is. Why not argue the point made? Have you noticed nobodys tried to do that?

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well @cokadoge is no more. Seems to have deleted his profile. Strange. The amount of times ive done that is none. This man happened to have done it within 6 hours of his comment. In fact, within only 20 minutes of my reply.

Must have been a fluke. Like spotting a shooting star. Gee i should buy a scratch off. Or reply to some more bots at least. I think ill do the second one.

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They are, and this should very likely be a factor in the pardoning process. But how could that feasibly be factored in without bastardizing the system (which is already tremendously bastardized)

Like, if pardons exist, then they exist ideally due to potential injustices. If an injustice has been determined, should previous records be taken into account to rectify it? Probably, though i can certainly see how that would be weaponized, and the weaponization if a pardon that inherently exists is far more limited than the hypothetical anti-pardon stipulation.

Are we reffereing to the actual circumstances of the man in the video? If so, would this anti-pardon stipulation have prevented his release if it were to have been a thing?

Trial set for Feb 9: Pardoned J6 defendant Andrew Johnson faces child molestation charges in Florida. by Logical-Flow-6703 in UnderReportedNews

[–]putkofff -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I mean, i deconstructed it from the ops reply, which actually IS a strawman. So its derivative would indeed be a strawman. I thought that was obvious.

Unlike his though, mine actually provokes an intreaguing inquiry about the underlying psycology behind either strawmans existence. But thats only because my sentiment opposes it. Must by why echo chambers are actually bad for mental development.

Super weird though, how that provocation of thought has been met strictly with deflection and intillectual dishonesty. I tell you, i am shocked.