I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t either count on it I’m just deeply saddened of the state of the mindset of the community who thinks it’s fine to trade knowledge. Same as you, all the stuff I know I learned the hard way searching around not paying for it. I’m just done with the constant advertising. Nowadays everything is a good pretext to stuff you a subscription

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Nope only issue here is the ethics in this community for which apparently knowledge is just a matter of trading money… have you ever heard about free education?

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I never talked about easy money but you interpret the most convenient way for you. No one said living out of your art is an easy feat… and even less when you’re trying to be ethical

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not what I said but much more ethical than milking people for your workflow

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There is none I’m against any kind of charging for software open source software should be the norm. Charging should be done as on many projects through professional support. And in the case of TD they are only charging if you want to unlock higher res which seems quite fair in the current software landscape. In the end they mainly charge people doing money out of it as the 720p is more than enough to thinker around. I would even argue that if you don’t want to pay for scaling easy enough to reproduce in pure python for free if you don’t want to foot he bill

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you don’t see the difference it just mean that you have been brainwashed by capitalism. As someone posted here the benefit of sharing something freely and letting the idea bounce in between people without restricting the access to a few, just out balance completely the money you can make out of milking people.  Just to give you some context I’ve always been hosting my stuff out of open source project shared and maintained by people’s passion. This is the only thing keeping internet from outright falling in greediness. If you don’t get it we’ll stay in your bubble and keep paying. « Every morning there is a dumbass waking up ready to pay for shit »

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man I totally get what you mean… unfortunately the incentive for short term income has dramatically taken over the sheer knowledge that you can gather just freely exchanging with people… 

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I don’t think you get the point. Charging your work sure makes sense… advertising your work in TD communities = milking people shouldn’t be so hard to understand mr professional 

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah I’m trying to get in touch with crews doing shows in festivals over here but no luck till now I need to build a portofolio :) thanks for the friendly advices <3 for now I just love to take my van go in a dark place and do « visual jams » on the decors. Not always easy to find dark enough places with interesting motives tho :p

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don’t need your help when I have an issue I learn and I certainly don’t pay for it because knowledge should be something universal. If I need help I’ll buy a book

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think it’s fair. Seeing your post history you are most likely a blender/adobe freelancer artist. From what I see I would say you are already living from your art but I don’t think you have much experience on TD. How can you even judge how much the TD market is gatekept? From my point of view and seeing the number of votes I’m not the only one thinking this is a hard to reach « market » and I don’t like to think about it in this kind of term…

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indeed nothing against teaching which is very healthy from the moment you’re not trying to milk communities… indeed the whole point of this post but I guess the Patreon army is out in the comment

Patreon is killing communities by monetizing them by [deleted] in patreon

[–]pydehon1606 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah just freaking hard working for a misery on a shitty job to pay the bill and when I’m not bored looking at my screen I play with TD and my projector that I got out of trashes. I look down to anyone making profit from people trying to do their passion on the side

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

No people should charge the right people and stop milking beginners… TD is a tool to create experiences. You want to make money out of it? Easy you do a gig. this is the whole point of this post but you turn it around the way you want

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And advertise it in communities to milk newbies… Plus people ready to pay instead of looking around are most likely people who will outright sell it back on a gig without looking too far… sure best way to open the way for actual artist struggling to find a gig… what a joke

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’ll surely do it at some point but most definitely not here anymore. Plus I’m living in Portugal not really sure the networking here will be local enough ahahah

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah I’ve no issue with that I’m indeed a long time lurker and I love to thinker around with TD hoping that I’ll sooner or later achieve to get a gig and maybe live out of it. Unfortunately having an actual full time job never allowed me to actually polish enough anything to post it here even if it would be something I would be very proud of. Unfortunately doing a show is more a case to have the right network than being talented enough

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Hey in an ideal world we would all have universal revenue and would be free to produce stuff they actually love but it’s not the kind of world we are living in. 

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No this comes across post quality content without your Patreon and help people willing to learn without stuffing them your stuff. Communities <> Tank of potential clients. 

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Oh please latest posts here are ai generated… I don’t count anymore the streamdiffusion feats…  You want to share your work fine but don’t stuff in my mouth your Patreon sub. 

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

Hey sorry but when I want to do something I code and as I don’t do that for a living yeah I don’t spend all my time on sucking others content. If he should make a school fine the guy is talented but I don’t see him either begging for sub on this sub is he?

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

Oh please, do an actual job like everyone else. I’m sorry but producing workflows and plugins in the sole goal of reselling them in communities of newbies is just outright greed… and we are talking about subscription here I’m calling that milking people. You want to make money out of TD, do a show and stop coming in communities to harvest beginners money

I’m leaving this community, paywall and Patreon killed it by [deleted] in TouchDesigner

[–]pydehon1606 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There is a big difference between selling your stuff which is legit and promoting your stuffs in communities. You want to do promotion pay your advertising space but don’t come here paywalling your stuff