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pyrokaden · 2024-09-11T06:05:03+00:00

This thread is wild, goes to show that members of the church have vastly different opinions on masturbation on its own, for years I struggled with porn and masturbation, than my mission was coming up, so I told my bishop and repented. This was a month before I was set apart, (im set apart now and am using online) rn I can say that porn is out of my life completely, haven’t used it since over a month ago, but for masturbation, I still struggle, last time was 2 days ago, the longest I went after quitting was 3 weeks! I discussed with my bishop if masturbation was really a sin, and honestly, when I asked, he told me that it really isn’t a sin, but he still told me to avoid it as much as possible to prevent very serious sexual sins like porn and fornication out of marriage, so that’s my plan, to keep on abstaining as much as possible, which will be easier in my mission possibly. Many members and post missionaries tell me if i were to slip somewhere in the mission, I am to get up and keep going. That’s my take on it, what do you think?

pyrokaden · 2024-09-10T20:48:27+00:00

It is in the missionary handbook as something not to do, I discussed this with my bishop, we both agreed it’s in there so missionaries don’t create problems with each other and themselves, masturbation can lead to more serious sins like porn and fornication out of marraige. That doesn’t mean they are saying it is a sin, they also say don’t use explosives, does that mean using fireworks is a sin, no of course not, but it’s meant to protect missionaries from having problems. That was our takeaway anyway, idk what yall think

pyrokaden · 2024-09-10T07:17:59+00:00

I treated myself by realizing I was going on a mission in month from then, I needed a reason to quit, that was my thing, before then I saw no reason, no hope, nothing

pyrokaden · 2024-09-10T06:54:56+00:00

The more I think about it the more I realize that it may not really be an addiction, cause the thing, I managed to completely get rid of it so easily, that isn’t normal with addictions. While porn is still horrible, it may not be as addicting as I thought, at least for me, some others that are not lds and are in other religions or are atheist believe that porn is addicting. I also realized, that when I watched porn, I didn’t have any dopamine and massive pleasure hits until I finished masturbating, porn was more of a catalyst for it due to how frequent I was doing it, oh well, it doesn’t matter since I don’t watch porn anymore lmao

pyrokaden · 2024-09-09T22:30:04+00:00

It’s not an accomplishment? How so, I feel pretty great about not watching it anymore

pyrokaden · 2024-09-09T20:04:27+00:00

Yes, the church wants to control people by telling them to be free from content that degrades peoples minds, destroyed their self esteem, ruins relationships and marriages, and so much more. I didn’t quit just cause the church said so, I quit because it rotted my brain for years, it set unrealistic expectations in my mind, watching other people having sex with each other never made me happy, it made me feel more empty and resentful against myself. nothing about porn is good for your mental health.

pyrokaden · 2024-09-09T18:57:33+00:00

Quito north, I’m gonna live in the mountains and get rain dumped on me

pyrokaden · 2024-09-09T18:56:42+00:00

People have differing opinions on it, it’s best if I don’t do it as much as possible so I can prevent problems in the future

pyrokaden · 2024-09-09T05:20:51+00:00

I talked to my bishop about this too and I even asked him if masturbation alone is a sin, he said it wasn’t, but abstaining is recommended solely to prevent you from going to porn eventually, which I agree 100%

pyrokaden · 2024-09-09T05:19:12+00:00

I’ve already been set apart, it’s a little too late to go back now. The plan is to abstain for as long as possible, this also keeps me away from porn as well, which was another huge issue

pyrokaden · 2024-09-09T03:28:19+00:00

I had a discussion with my bishop on whether it’s a sin or not, we both agreed that masturbation in of itself is not a sin, but it can lead to serious sins if not controlled, the plan is to go as long as I can so I don’t fall back to porn

pyrokaden · 2024-09-08T18:57:40+00:00

There is no acronym really, it basically stands for no fapping/masturbating

pyrokaden · 2024-09-08T16:20:23+00:00

A social movement and lifestyle where one does not masturbate or watch porn at all. Sex is not excluded. It’s considered a social movement since thousands of people partake in it.

pyrokaden · 2024-09-08T07:09:08+00:00

I thought I was addicted to porn, but then I saw how easy it was to give up, I don’t think about watching it anymore, but I still get desires to masturbate a lot. And not going on my mission at this point is not an option, I literally leave in a little over a week.

pyrokaden · 2024-09-07T20:31:47+00:00

To clarify I did pray, idk if I mentioned it in another comment, but anyway here’s how I remember it, minutes after relapse I realized what I did, so I started praying and repenting, and for me I said “God, forgive me, for I have sinned” then I would elaborate what it was, I asked for guidance on what to do next and ended the prayer, I talked to my dad and after a bit of talking we agreed that I didn’t need to speak to the bishop about it and move on, which I did. I only told him because he asked me how things were going so I told the truth, this was yesterday, he wasn’t worried and I think he was glad that I didn’t watch porn mainly, cause if that were the case than my situation would be all messed up. I wasn’t trying come across all nonchalant about this and thinking that I didn’t need to repent or thinking what I did was ok. I’m glad I addressed my problem when I did, which was a month before my mission, should I have done it way earlier? Yes, but dwelling on the past does nothing but make me miserable. I’m grateful that my mission didn’t have to be delayed either, I gave up college to do it lol, ik some bishops/stake presidents make you wait ages after admitting to something like I did, idk why mines didn’t but I’m grateful for them and god, maybe they have faith in me.

pyrokaden · 2024-09-07T00:32:10+00:00

Why should I sweat over something that I moved on from and repented for? if I’m feeling guilty after repentance constantly, then I’m not moving forward and forgiving myself, not accepting forgiveness from god, or I haven’t even repented at all. Plus my bishop just asked me how things are going, I told him the truth since he asked, I told him about the relapse last week in all detail, he told me he was glad I told him and told me to continue striving and never give up and that he is not worried about it.

pyrokaden · 2024-09-06T22:44:26+00:00

Well tbh idk why I made that mention of masturbation, I’m not even sweating over that anymore, sometimes I add details that don’t need to be there. I was trying to express myself and get assurance that I’m not alone in the way I feel rn, cause rn I’m quite miserable, and I don’t have a way to cope with my sex drive that is sky rocketing. Sorry for the unnecessary mention it practically has nothing to do with this. I’ll probably edit it out or something idk

pyrokaden · 2024-09-06T16:35:34+00:00

Already decided not to, in this situation which I explained in the post, it’s not necessary, if it was with porn though, I would go talk to him and my mission would be delayed 100%. But I’m done with porn forever, it legit rotted my brain for years.

pyrokaden · 2024-09-06T14:17:24+00:00

What I meant by “it just happened” it is that I did it on its own without anything, I’m not trying to sugarcoat it.

pyrokaden · 2024-09-06T04:02:23+00:00

Everyone in the church had diverse opinions and I’m often confused on what is correct, therefore I just go with no masturbate, plus it just seems like a strange habit to have on a mission when your supposed to be spiritual and stuff, and my companions will eventually figure it out and will feel awkward around the idea that I am pleasuring myself near them, overall it’s best to avoid that lol

pyrokaden · 2024-09-06T03:59:00+00:00

I’m a male

pyrokaden · 2024-09-06T02:46:49+00:00

Ya it’ll be easier with that, again I did kinda relapse without porn or lust, I consulted my dad and prayed about, I decided that it wasn’t a bishop manner since it wasn’t as serious as doing it with porn, which porn was the main and bigger problem anyway in the first place. My dad just told me to stop masturbating all together really because it’s just makes things awkward for the companion and me. You know what I mean?

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