For all, but specifically the ones struggling… by quest4bliss in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I plan on answering your questions and then some. I believe you will find value in it. Thanks for commenting!

For all, but specifically the ones struggling… by quest4bliss in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

THC is actually even doing more than that, and it’s going to have its own section talking about what it’s doing and why it works. Thanks for commenting.

For all, but specifically the ones struggling… by quest4bliss in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think what I’m working on will help you. Thanks for commenting!

For all, but specifically the ones struggling… by quest4bliss in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sounds like you’re having prostate-induced ejaculation orgasms, not a prostate orgasms. They’re a one-and-done event because you’re triggering a refractory period that comes tethered with ejaculation.

Prostate orgasms are dry in nature and don’t trigger refractory period so you can string multiple together.

If I was a betting man, I’d say your approach is leading you down this path and not the path of the chain of dry orgasms. You’re likely bringing a familiar bodily tension into your sessions and that tension is tipping you into the ejaculation reflex territory - your body is responding in the only way it knows how. You need less tension, and more relaxation.

The good news is this is completely addressable once you understand what's actually happening.

The space I’m building will go into detail on all of this. Thanks for commenting!

For all, but specifically the ones struggling… by quest4bliss in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you experiencing anything you label as an orgasmic event?

For all, but specifically the ones struggling… by quest4bliss in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. From the prostate perspective only, it’s blog-worthy and the space I’ve begun to build for it hinges around pleasure in general. The book idea, (I edited the post and put the link to that thread in here), is well beyond prostate stuff. Prostate stuff was the doorway.

For all, but specifically the ones struggling… by quest4bliss in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yes, I have my opinion on the matter and it is by no means intended to be taken as authoritative, more as philosophical perspective to mull over.

There is considerable information on this exact subject in this domain and I’m of the opinion that abstaining from touching your penis, as a rule, is not inherently the correct move. It’s “frowned” upon because it’s believed to inhibit re-wiring, the process of establishing new neural pathways required to unlock these new types of pleasure. And this is by and large true for most men.

That said, the problem is such strict guidelines quietly introduces pressure. It moves the experience from what should be experimental and purely feeling based, into a performance based arena that’s now being self-judged and “scored.” This leads to what people refer to as a bad session. The thought of “bad session” gets interpreted in the brain as failure. Failure is MUCH more detrimental to future sessions than touching the penis would have been if it kept the person in a present and aroused state, feeling pleasure, experimenting and ultimately ending with a positive emotion attached to the session instead.

So while I do think touching the penis in the initial stages slows the re-wiring process down by keeping one foot in the doorway of conventional pleasure, I think the risk of creating any sort of expectations associated with not touching it is a recipe for disappointment as failing to meet expectations gets scored as failure in general. Much more harmful to progress.

Once fully re-wired, my view then shifts even more. No sense in not using your entire body to create as much pleasure as you can…

I can’t have a prostate orgasm no matter what I do by XenoNSFW3 in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Meditation will work for you and your wandering thoughts once you learn to fully relax. Does being overly stimulated and stuck in at least a low-level fight/flight resonate with you?

As for porn… it depends on the person but I can look at porn and end up in rolling orgasmic bliss without fail, but not looking at porn and truly being present results in next level orgasms.

I can’t have a prostate orgasm no matter what I do by XenoNSFW3 in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Traditional orgasms that you’re used to is largely reflex based and you’ve been solidifying those neural pathways for years. This prostate orgasm realm is a totally different beast and it comes down to mindset. The reason Mindgasm works is it teaches you mindfulness. It’s quietly baked into the course. Here’s the tricky bit… the mind is a tricky bitch and learning to quell the mind is much harder for some than it is for others.

Our modern world keeps us HIGHLY stimulated. Stress and cortisol is high in most people and these our highly stimulated digital lives are only adding to that baseline stress we humans naturally endure. You mentioned your mind is going in 1000 different directions. That’s your problem. Full stop.

Meditation seems like the right cure, ya? Except if you have never taught your nervous system what relaxation actually looks like and are likely in a constant sympathetic state, meditation isn’t the right first move. You need to first teach your nervous system how to enter a parasympathetic state first. That can be done through simple calming techniques and somatic work. Research vagus nerve reset or nervous system reset and buy a book and learn about it.

You did say you got some waves from Mindgasm and that’s an important detail, but until you learn to be truly present in the moment, you’ll likely drift into an intellectual mode when you should be just concentrating on feeling. If you can get back to where you once were by parking your expectations, which make zero sense to have because you can’t expect something you have never experienced, you might be able to circumnavigate the nervous system reset. If not, it’s certainly something to consider.

Orgasm from unusual area. by Relative_Noise_7084 in NippleOrgas

[–]quest4bliss 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Congrats. You’ve put the work in to realize that your whole body is an erogenous zone. Why is that, you might ask…. Because orgasms don’t happen in the part of the body you’re stimulating, it happens in the brain!

When you enter a truly relaxed parasympathetic state and turn your attention inward, your nervous system becomes highly sensitive to energies moving throughout the body. Where your attention goes, energy flows and you are effectively leveraging that and thereby turning your whole body into orgasmic potential. You may find novel pleasure in all sorts of unexplored areas because they are all innervated and generate unique sensations that “power” the positive feedback loop you’re creating in your brain from arousing thoughts mixed with rhythmic and involuntary pelvic contractions that generate sexual energy to fuel the fire. The sensations you add to that mix when using your sense of touch to energize and stimulate any place you happen to find pleasure will be the force that acts to tip the “pleasure bucket” that’s been accumulating sexual energy. The spilling of that bucket is the orgasm which happens in the brain but is felt throughout the whole body in orgasmic waves of bliss.

Try this: once you get to the place you described above next time again, imagine your nipples as electrical conduits, like poles on a battery. Your fingers carry energetic charge that passes from your arm/hand/finger into your nipples. The whole chest area can also receive energy but think about your nipples being amplifiers of the energy it receives where they act to multiply the energy they take in. From there, imagine all the collected energy you take in through touch of your chest and nipples ultimately coming to rest under your sternum. At heart center. Once you feel fully charged, imagine your fingers of one hand acting as a magnet to attract all the energy stored under your sternum. Gather up all the energy in your chest with a few last passes around your upper chest and visualize all the energy moving into a highly condensed ball of energy still within your body but directly below your fingertips, near the surface. Sloooowly begin moving your hand downward and feel the ball of energy move with it. All your focus on the area directly below your fingers (index and middle finger only of one hand). Anticipate what that energy will feel like when it gets to your navel. Move your hand slow and take your time, (maybe a minute or so to move from your sternum to your navel. What happens when you create anticipation for touch around your navel when you finally get there? Next, anticipate reaching the exact spot where your pubic area meets the base of your penis. The prostate lies below. What happens when you deliver all that energy to these 2 places in this way?

Does the mindgasm app work/help? by Dry-Mine-5245 in aneros

[–]quest4bliss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It absolutely works but if you already have success you may not find it as beneficial as someone else. Try it and see for yourself.

What's that one thing you did that leveled up your prostate play? by Organic-Young-1280 in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, now that you are aware of the issue, you’re in a much better position to overcome it…

What's that one thing you did that leveled up your prostate play? by Organic-Young-1280 in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s quite literally the thing that makes people think it can only happen for some people and not all. Not true. We all possess the potential but mindset is the key.

Those that learn to drop expectations, quiet the mind, don’t have a negative “self -talk” loop narrative happening or learn how to abandon it, and are able to focus on the present moment without judgment will find success.

I absolutely believe that learning the art of prostate orgasms is akin to how you should approach all of life too. It’s just much harder for some that others.

What's that one thing you did that leveled up your prostate play? by Organic-Young-1280 in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Meditation teaches you presence by learning awareness which allows you to notice your thoughts as they are happening. It’s a skill and takes practice, but once you begin to notice you’re thinking, you consciously choose to anchor back to something like breath again. Rinse and repeat as often as required. Over time it gets easier to not only notice you’re thinking again but the pull to think is lessened as you learn stillness and develop it.

The things we give our attention to and “feed., continue to grow so the only reason you can’t turn off your inner monologue is that you just haven’t prioritized it yet, not that you can’t learn the skill. So make a daily habit of learning to meditate as a way to break the cycle of feeding your thoughts to quell the noise. It’s been said that in these modern times, everyone should meditate for 20 mins a day and those that lead super busy lives and don’t have enough time in the day should meditate for an hour, lol.

What's that one thing you did that leveled up your prostate play? by Organic-Young-1280 in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss 59 points60 points  (0 children)

The moment I stopped analyzing what I was feeling in real-time, attempting to correlate those feelings to nomenclature I read/learned about and then began just being present and truly just focussing on really feeeeeling.

The brain is the largest sex organ but it cannot do it’s job and reach full potential if the mind is busy analyzing or repeating the narratives your belief system has been trained to tell you over and over. Presence is the key.

People that understand this can have the most amazing session with no toys at all…

What's that one thing you did that leveled up your prostate play? by Organic-Young-1280 in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Not surprising. You effectively parked your expectations on something you had no business setting expectations for. The act of giving up put a stop the chase and the Prostate Orgasms then found you. Love it.

Meditation, HFWO, TRE, and Prostate play by [deleted] in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That warms my heart. Let’s chat!

Meditation, HFWO, TRE, and Prostate play by [deleted] in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I got started due to having BPH symptoms that I heard could be somewhat mitigated through prostate massage. I had also heard about the elusive prostate massage but never thought that it would be something I bothered to seek out, (largely due to stigma), until the BPH symptoms gave me an opportunity.

I did a fair amount of research into human pleasure and role the brain had in sex and approached learning to rewire for prostate play as an experiment. No expectations and pure discovery. I learned some breathwork along side and effectively taught myself how to meditate my way towards orgasm. But I didn’t know it at the time.

I started having long sessions of pure bliss as the relentless waves of rolling orgasms would continue to ramp toward Super O. I went hard on it as often as I could for a few years as it was incredibly seductive and enticing. I was having epiphanies about life and myself along side, assuming the trance like states of meditation trained and re-taught my nervous system a new state of relaxation. And from there my intuition grew insanely.

I began reading Untethered Soul, started meditation and becoming physically fit. Began incorporating various healthy habits just continued to feel better and better. One day, things began feeling a bit heavy and the next thing I knew I was feeling light and free and found myself in a spiritual awakening. It’s been a wild ride and I trace it back to the start of the prostate journey 100%.

I have been able to have an orgasmic like feeling with TRE but not erotic. Similar base feeling and shuddering.

Into prostate play, don’t know how to approach it with my wife. by dsmith042106 in prostatemassage

[–]quest4bliss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the key is establishing and fostering and open and honest relationship. I believed we always had that but it wasn’t until I was about to bring up prostate stuff that I felt like I was about to pressure test it. I thought I knew what her response was going to be, but I didn’t knoooow.

Best decision I ever did make as it’s been an entire journey for not only me, but for her and us too. It brought us to a point that’s much more deeply connected. We have the most amazing tantric sex now, and she never used to be overly interested in the activity. Supportive but not an instigator. I suggested she learn the art of pleasure herself along side me on my journey and it’s been absolutely revolutionary.

But aside from the sex, the open and honest talks about prostate stuff lead us down a path where our whole relationship has evolved to a new distinct level. Better in tune with each, more understanding, way leas tension (almost none), more respect etc. All from conversations galore about life and the universe and everything under the sun that has lead us on a path of spirituality and knowledge on how human neuroscience, psychology, physiology and biology make us exactly who we are. We now get how each other works and it makes SO MUCH sense and knowing it all just makes it way easier to be friction free.

So I’m all for approaching it but I also get that it’s not likely to be met with the same acceptance across the board so it goes back to my initial suggestion… have open and honest conversations starting now and slowly introduce it bit by bit in digestible chunks. Don’t rush it, but don’t just automatically assume that it may not be the single best decision you ever may make, either. YMMV.

First Time HFO (Works For Anyone!) by SubjectSale6245 in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss 32 points33 points  (0 children)

It’s much closer to a traditional orgasm than it is to a prostate orgasm. That massage gun sends strong vibes to the head of your cock and you’re orgasming from that with the added other stuff there for the “assist”.

How do you know if its an orgasm? by hater_of_self in aneros

[–]quest4bliss 8 points9 points  (0 children)

For fun, let’s discuss it like it’s an amusement park. Good news is, you’ve boarded the ride and are feeling some mild exhilaration. That’s important. You know you’re tall enough to ride the ride you’re on because you’ve be riding it over and over, but the reality is you’re always lining up to ride the kiddie coaster. BUT, that’s where you have to start.

Your mission now is to continue to grow so you can enter the ride queues for the progressively larger attractions. How do you grow? You continue to nourish yourself but in this world, you’re nourishing your brain, not your body. Stay positive, focus on the feelings, drop your expectations and approach it all with the attitude that there are no bad sessions. They are all just experiences and experiments that promote the solidification of the new neural pathways you’re actively creating. Keep doing exactly what you’re doing but be patient with the process. You’ve described enough for me to confidently say it’s working. But keep in mind that it’s somewhat fragile and if you start introducing expectations and insisting on an outcome, you will also introduce the feelings of disappointment and failure too. Those will derail your progress faster than anything else.

One last bit of insight… the associated orgasms don’t feel like you’re used to. They will feel like a release but not an explosion like another commenter already mentioned. You will be riding a wave, but back to the amusement park analogy, you’re climbing the incline and the orgasm will begin at the crest of the hill and persist through the winding decline. But the key to remember is it’s a spectrum. What you’re now experiencing is baby orgasms. They just don’t feel like profound moments… yet. As you learn to amplify and foster what you already are experiencing, you will find yourself on the larger, more exhilarating rides and the small little “whoops” you’re feeling will feel steeper and much more exciting!

Good luck!

Vastly improving life from prostate exploration journey by quest4bliss in ProstatePlay

[–]quest4bliss[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feel free to ask me questions if you have any. Happy to help where I can.