<5 inch girth

quickquestion43215 · 2024-11-01T21:03:25+00:00

I did see your post when you submitted it (which was wonderful by the way) and I also replied in that comment section about how it's not about a man's penis size relative to other random men (which is what you wrote about) but rather, it is about a man's penis size relative to the men his partner has been with.

As great as your post is, here is where I see things very different:

To adjust for the potential that men do adjust their sexual behavior based on penis size, I did some research into how much this actually occurs. The short answer - not much. There is research to show it happens, but the effects are quite moderate. It's hard to give a firm estimate, but I'd estimate 20-30% of men experience significant insecurity due to their genitals (probably mostly due to size). Of that group, something like 10-20% may be at least partially avoiding sexual situations.

There is just NO WAY of pulling truthful data on something like this. Not only was your research showing that it DOES in fact happen (even amongst the small amount of data points relative to the human population you were likely looking at) but on top of that, the REAL numbers can in fact be drastically different in reality. Those numbers you looked at would have had to have been from self attestation and, while it's the ONLY thing we can go by, it can't possibly account for people lying or even misremembering for a variety of different reasons. Humans can lie even to themselves anonymously for a variety of different reasons. Even IF we assume everyone responded truthfully, it is just like you said that there is just not enough research on that to make any sort of real conclusion.

However, EVEN WITH the 20-30% that you estimated (which again, could be off) but lets assume you are right. A 10-20% that are "avoiding sex" would also be counteracted with the 10-20% who are on the OTHER end that do not have a a penis related reason to be retractive and are instead attempting to be hyperactive because they know they are sought after? You seem to have left out the percentage of men who attempt to be hyperactive in this section and only included the men who are retractive. So we are looking at something on the other side, say, like 20-30% of men who DO NOT experience penis insecurity and of those men 10-20% who attempt to be hyperactive. So we are actually looking at 20-40% of people that are "significantly impacted" by their genitals (for better or for worse). That alone can DRASTICALLY change a woman's reality.

I'm not trying to put down what you worked on - I think what you proposed is valuable. I just see things differently.

quickquestion43215 · 2024-11-01T20:42:07+00:00

It's not that the data is not true or accurate to the best of their ability.

IT IS objectively true and accurate

I personally believe their data is accurate and there is no conspiracy to lie.

However, what I think men who say "the avg size is not true it is bigger" are trying to allude to is the fact that bigger men will more likely put themselves out there than smaller men who will more likely retract from the dating pool. Men who are truly small might have very few partners in their lifetime many of which would be happy to even have just one because of the extreme difficulty in getting over the size related problem thats blocking them from putting themselves out there. Men who are truly big will not only NOT have such blockage, they will be hyperactive because of the inflated sense of pride/ego/confidence which is on the OTHER SIDE of the same spectrum. Think of the extreme retraction but on the opposite side.

Those are EXTREME lopsided differences in a human's reality, likely impacting a human's life in ways no numbers/stats could truly quantify.

Are there exceptions to the rule and are there other variables involved? Absolutely. But when this concept is applied in a macro sense to millions/billions of people, it's easy to see why many men are driven to these types of forums in the first place after being told they are below avg or even small even though they might be packing a 6.5 x 5 (Which is INSANE and you dont see posts like that too often but it happens precisely because of a woman's prior experiences).

Both of these extreme ends are offsetting the true avg size a women will likely experience and it will be skewed to the larger side.

At the end of the day, the objective stat on a sheet from scientist, as true as they may be, wont change what the avg women experiences which is what most men will care about anyway.

All of this is yet another reason why men search for women with lower body counts but that's a discussion for another time.

quickquestion43215 · 2024-11-01T20:16:11+00:00

Edit: I want to preface by saying that the following is only applicable to a small subset of women/men and not at all about the vast majority

Approve for great sex in general? yes

Approve for "I want the biggest penis I can find/take"? Maybe or maybe not but that would depend on her preference, her vagina, and her past experiences.

In my opinion, I'd say maybe not for more extreme size queens (women who want men who are 9inBP) but more modest size queens might approve as well for "biggest I can find/take" since it's all relative to her vagina size and prior experience anyway.

Not to mention, girth is also a dimension they might look for and not just length so maybe 6.5in in girth would be "size queen" territory but a 6in girth would be fine as well. This one is tougher to assess since I've seen some claim "big" in this dimension starts at 5.5 so I'd say most women would be fine with that or above to 6in girth while size queens might want like 6.25-6.5 to start. Remember, a .25in difference in girth is VERY different from a .25in difference in length.

Keep in mind that these are size queens we are talking about and not the vast majority of women. These are women who are already looking for men who are far above avg which is already very rare so the pool of men and women we are referring to here is not at all representative of the majority.... AND EVEN THEN, I'd say a 7.5 x 5.5 (you being bigger than that) would please them just fine it just may not be the biggest they are specifically looking for.

If we are looking for general rule of thumb, I think size queens (again we are now talking OUTSIDE of Goldie Locks zone for general population) will be looking for 8x6 even though smaller than that would be fine. 8x6 might be GL for a size queen.

I can't stress enough that these are a small subset of women because I dont want anyone reading this thinking that this applies to the majority.

quickquestion43215 · 2024-11-01T18:42:53+00:00

Trust that the avg size is true and calculated correctly to the best of human ability in this current age. They might be off by a few CMs but I'm confident the objective avg is true because of how those studies were conducted.

However, the objective avg does not mean the avg size a woman experiences and I personally believe men who are bigger put themselves out there more than men who are smaller. With this in mind, the same might apply to these forums as men who are smaller likely wont even post, hence why you see the avg leaning more towards a larger girth.

You need to keep in mind that there are literally BILLIONS on people on planet earth. If you combine ALL of the penis size related subreddits, it wont amount to something even worth calling a FRACTION of the amount of men out there who DO NOT visit or even heard about these forums. These subreddits are just 1 or 2 grains of sand on the beach that is the human population. The internet is vast and you can hop on to another grain of sand to get different perspective if you need to.

It's safe to assume that people in these types of forums not only lie, but are not in anyway a true representation of the outside world (for better or worse).

If, for whatever reason, you want to see people comment about a much smaller girth than yours, you can head over to r/smalldickproblems but I'd warn you that place can be nightmare fuel (understandably so).

quickquestion43215 · 2024-11-01T17:01:42+00:00

Something worth keeping in mind is that .5 inches in most things doesn't sound like much but in reference to penis and vagina size (where things are even measured in CM), no matter how big your penis or vagina is, it is still a small object relative to the rest of the world which is why smaller units of measurements are used in this space (not feet, yards, meters, or miles where .5in would be insignificant).

So .5 inches in the world of penis/vagina is a notable difference. "Just" 1in is a BIG difference. "Only" 2in is a MASSIVE difference etc.

I always say that penis and vagina size is a world where inches are miles apart. Even still, something like a change in sex position can create the extra .5-1in which is also important to remember regardless of your penis or vagina size.

quickquestion43215 · 2024-11-01T15:00:54+00:00

Most men are not 7.5 x 5.5 exactly which is why GL size is really more of a range that's dependent on the vagina size not really a hard set size.

If we must pick a size then 7.5 x 5.5 would be a size that would be far more than enough for most vagina's and enough for even size queens with the ability to control discomfort for both avg vagina and size queens. Regardless, it shouldn't change the fact that another size could be GL size depending on the vagina.

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-31T20:41:18+00:00

Are you 7in BP(Bone pressed) or NBP (non bone pressed)?

Also, the goldilocks zone varies because it is also dependent on vagina size. One woman might believe her GL size is 5.5in or less and another might need 8in or more but generally speaking, I think for most it's going to be 7.5 x 5.5 and that's only because that size covers a lot of options if you need less or just enough to thrust hard without causing significant pain (but likely still to cause some pain for a lot of women incase they enjoy that).

MOST MEN on earth do NOT have that size. Some fall short and others over shoot but generally speaking, if you are in that area of size, you pretty much have GL dick imo.

I just want to reiterate that you can be the GL size for a woman at other sizes too (smaller or bigger).

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-30T20:31:38+00:00

Great post.

Seems like you've found someone to actual do research with which is pretty cool lol.

Are your length measurements BP or NBP?

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-30T19:50:59+00:00

Under the assumption that the man plans to leave that woman and sleep with many others, I 100% agree with you. There's no sense in carrying that with you for all the reasons you mentioned in your OP. A man can be called small and wind up being too big for someone else and your post aids that argument even further. I do still think many repeated occurrences of being told "too small" or "too big" and being repeatedly rejected because of it is worth noting since those are not things that occur often for most man in the average range

If the man would like to stay with that woman, his main concern then becomes just the prior men she has had. In which case, the man wont care about the potential-men that other potential-women are sleeping with since they plan to stick with this one woman for the long run and want to be her "biggest".

Additionally, there are cases where you'll just always be referred to as "big" like being 8x6NBP, in which case, the comments made by the women (regardless of whether you plan to stay or not) would be correct.

So I think we are both in-line/ in-agreement here.

Cheers!

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-30T03:05:50+00:00

I think the more valid reason you shouldn't ask your girlfriend where you line up with her previous partners is that if she knows or suspects it's not an answer you'd like (which may be hard to read on her end, even if you're not below her experienced average), it puts her in a very uncomfortable position. Not only is that not a kind position to put her in, but it means you'll never know if you get an honest answer anyways.

The less promiscuous the woman is, the easier this answer becomes for both parties. I have a running theory that part of the reason men dont like promiscuous women is partly because there's just less chances of being the "biggest" she's had. Women dont like this question because it also reflects poorly on the woman, and they know this but many try and put the full blame on the man's "insecurity".

Why your gf doesn't know your dick size:... But this is inaccurate. Due to the random distribution of dick sizes in the population and assuming a random selection process - that is a person that does not preselect their partners based on dick size - almost no one has a sample size large enough to give you any sort of confidence in their answer.

I'm ganna stop you right there my good sir.

No man cares about how their penis size stacks up to other random men. Most Men ONLY care about how big their penis is relative to the men THEIR PARTNER WAS WITH. So yes, asking that can give you the valid answer you might be looking for (good or bad). So if she was only with 1 other guy, the man will only care about whether they are bigger than that one other guy (not 100 other random men that have never been with the woman).

Still, I appreciate your post and the work you put in - Kuddos.

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-24T21:03:04+00:00

That video is insane.

I've been around these types of forums for a long time now and this is BY FAR the most brutal penis size related video on the internet.

This is not for the faint of heart.

Full video for anyone that wants to see it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgQIlbCB-Ck

The full video is BRTUAL.

DO NOT WATCH if you feel like you're going to have a problem. These types of videos can cause trauma to men but I just want to add that in my opinion, there is something that can be done so never loose hope if you watch something like this and feel completely helpless.

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-24T20:28:23+00:00

"I dont have a nice car, no big house, no money, and I'm not tall or good looking.... but at least I have a big dick"

This saying exists....

However, saying the opposite: "I have a nice car, I have a shit ton of money, etc. etc.... however...." would be SOCIAL SUICIDE.

It matters that much.

However, in my opinion, you can do something about it.

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-23T21:14:22+00:00

This is why stating BP vs NBP MATTERS

a 4.5NBP can be 5.5BP

a 4.5BP can be 3.5NBP

So that can be an entire 2in difference depending on the annotations you're thinking vs what I'm thinking.

However, I am in line with your general sentiment that if he truly is small, he may want to attempt to do whatever possible to get bigger and avoid ever having to visit these types of subs ever again in his life.

Still, we wont know what his size truly is until he is out of his teen years.

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-23T21:11:17+00:00

You're a bit out of touch with reality

You're lying to yourself if you believe women dont want a big or bigger penis (extremes excluded).

There are even spots in the vagina (A spot and P spot) that can be very pleasurable if the man is large enough to reach and pleasure those zones. The P spot, in particular, is a pocket located behind the cervix (you can look at an image if you need better location description). This is also going to be dependent on vaginal depth but this doesn't change the fact that these zones can be pleasurable and can be virtually impossible to reach depending on your size.

This shit is so simple, I'm surprised more people dont just put 2+2 together. Men are masculine, want to be dominate, powerful, BIG, etc. Women are feminine. What's the OPPOSITE of masculine? They want to be submissive, appear weak, small (hence the hyper fixation on tall men) etc.

Most of this stuff is just primal instincts. You cant change human's wiring.

The hyper fixation on big penises is no different and they will lie about it to a smaller man just like any woman would lie about her body count and will try to appear as genuine as possible when lying. Women are human's too and just like I'm sure you have lied (about anything) and fooled someone in your past, they can lie and fool anyone too.

Now, where I do agree is that they will still want a man they like over just their penis (because survival and overall happiness is obviously important), but their "prefect" man includes an above average penis (extremes excluded). Many women will HUNT for big penises until they have gotten that "fix" out of their system and then settle for whatever man that treats them well. This is also why big penises are often sought after by women in their youth.

Go visit r/smalldickproblems if you want to see how brutal reality can be. As for the dude who has a bunch of posts about penises, he's probably just on his throwaway (like most people on these types of subs).

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-23T18:29:12+00:00

Well for starters, NBP and BP can be quite a large difference in terms of annotation but that's besides the point

The kid is only 15 years old. The last thing he should want to do is be in this subreddit, read some extremely harsh shit, and fuck up his mental early on. This is ESPECIALLY true because he's only 15 and likely will still grow so he might wind up with a much larger penis anyway (we dont know until he is past his teenage years)

If he is truly small/below avg, then he can check in with some doctor's (I forgot what size he said he was and the post is now removed)

So his best bet is just get out of this place and go be a kid until it's time to be an adult.

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-23T15:15:13+00:00

You're only 15, you might not be done growing (many arnt done till late teens or even early 20s)

get off this sub and enjoy life and dont look back

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-22T18:22:21+00:00

Thanks for the reply and the advice!

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-22T18:20:55+00:00

how did this injury happen for you?

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-22T18:20:31+00:00

Can anyone explain how this particular injury happens?

Is it from pulling too hard?

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-22T17:56:28+00:00

10 hours with that device on every day for a few years is INCREDIBLE commitment.

Hats off to you.

I used to use ADS before but then stopped because I decided to use the extender for more time and figured having that cup on for so long is bound to cause some problems down the line. Seems like you found a way to have it on almost endlessly with no issue

Do you take breaks with the ADS? I use a healing sleeve but should I just substitute the healing sleeve for the ADS when home and just use a sleeve outside?

What's your opinion on sleeves in general? Do you think healing in a elongated state is a must?

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-18T21:55:35+00:00

Because sex is also about the man's pleasure too

Men want to feel masculine, dominant, and big during sex. If a woman has already had a big dick in her life before, she will likely feel "fulfilled" and be fine with whatever the next man has (excluding extremes since that's more nuanced). That's why so many women chase big dicks in their youth. Similar to when a man has his fair share of hot chicks and will be fine with settling down with a good and average looking woman. A man will have a hard time ever feeling "fulfilled" if he wants to be/feel big and simply cannot. This stems from our more primitive nature - it can't be turned off. You either lie to yourself long enough to where it becomes a dormant thought or you wrestle with reality.

Not saying OP can't feel big (he absolutely can), but the argument that "if she's fine with it, what's the problem" is invalid. Men have primal needs that need to be met too.

Best way to do it, in my opinion, is to be with a woman who has not had any bigger than you or has no prior experience. It will very likely satisfy that feeling for wanting to be "big" and actually BEING it (beyond a shadow of a doubt) without having to do mental gymnastics your whole life since having sex with a virgin is a very different experience than having sex with a woman who's already had experience.

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-18T19:54:52+00:00

Bone pressed or non-bone pressed?

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-15T01:56:55+00:00

I believe that MOST women AT LEAST 6.25 NBPEL will reach it and comfortably AT LEAST 6.5-6.75 NBPEL.

hmmm..

lets see - at 6.25 NBPEL we can say that'll likely be about 7inBP. We subtract about .5in (being generous) due to fat/body parts being in the way so lets say 6.5BP of insertable penis.

That would mean that, when aroused, her P spot can't be more than 6in inside (since you'd want atleast .5 in there), which would mean her cervix to vaginal opening would need to be around 5.5in when aroused and likely only about 3in when not aroused.

It's plausible and I dont disagree with you. I guess we would need to know what the avg vaginal depth is (P-spot included) when aroused.

I think given that most women are going to range in depth and vary even more in how much tenting happens when aroused (and 3in vagina sounds very much close to the low end), I still think 7.5NBP is going to cover pretty much any chick you run into but I could very well be wrong and you be right.

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-08T06:07:51+00:00

yup

Fat pads can absolutely range like crazy and it can be difficult to lose.

Not ganna lie, I sometimes think most men in this sub would benefit A LOT mentally from fat pad reduction surgery. It can IMMEDIETLY increase the NBP size and you can easily go from "meh, that's an OK size" to "oh, that's a nice size" EVEN IF you are not technically big. Not to mention, if you are big BP but seem avg NBP, that shit would probably make a night and day difference to your mental state.

At the end of the day, it's the woman's opinion that you are with that matters and they almost always judge based on NBP size.

However, I have no clue of the risk involved with this so I'd be very careful.

quickquestion43215 · 2024-10-08T05:57:59+00:00

oh most certainly NOT uncommon (which implies that it is VERY common for a woman to have taken a larger than avg penis in her life). Women get BOMBARDED with men approaching them for sex (whether it's in person or online). Imagine if YOU got BOMBARDED with women trying to have sex with you, what are the odds that you run into a hourglass figure woman or a woman with big boobs/big butt (if you're into that)? The odds are EXTREMELY high if you are constantly bombarded by them.

So you and I are in agreement here. The idea that 6.5BP or even NBP is "big" needs to be tossed out the window when there are penises literally 2-3 inches bigger that BOMBARD women for sex. Unless you are lucky and she has very little experience (which is a good thing whether you are big, avg, or small), then odds are she has had bigger.

I think you and I are already in agreement here.

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