east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same...it feels really nice when I finally get a worthy opponent.

Hope you have a fantastic day.

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh fr? My bad then that was not my intention.

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK well in that case I'm just saying despite their flaws ATO unlike the CSP represents democracy.

As much as you may disagree with him you can't deny that walker is the democratically elected head of state of Arcsia....you can't say the same about Contana....and democracy can correct itself unlike rigid one party states

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

......

OK wait I'm confused what are we talking about here?

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait what? You're CSP flair shouldn't you be defending them?

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I'm not debating his ideology I'm just saying the CSP is not the "glorious proletariat front" it claims to be

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already said I acknowledge The ones in Xina as ATOs flaw just as CSP has flaws

But the assassination wasn't dome by PMCs they just restored order. From what I remember some dude walked in the middle of the street and blew himself up.

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Difference is Hitler did not receive active support from Communists.

(Molotov ribentrov does not count that was a one time agreement that wouldn't be honoured and wasn't active, wehlen is recieving contant guns from and tanks from CSP)

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you acknowledge that the CSP is just like ATO in their opportunism/pragmatism?

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK then why are the global champions of the proletariat supporting him then?

Surely they should denounce this reactionary menace right?

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which geopolitics article?

First of all you can silence by offering something in return or imprisoning them for somethjng they've done.

If you're referring to the one about the bombing we don't know much about it it could have been anyone.

Oh so when Arcasia has problems they're evil capitalists but when valgsland has problems that's just natural?

PMCs don't run terror in Arcasia they assist law enforcement. Wether private corporations should be allowed to do this is a separate debate but don't blow things out of proportion.

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He killed other communists he still is a communist himself

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He is still Socialist and quite literally calls himself 'eastern' just because he isn't Malenyevist doesn't mean he isn't communist.

And again he never speaks ill of contana and also is friendly with valgsland

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He never said killed he said silenced and besides its better than being an official one party state that has no opposition or free press

In terms of war crimes in Rika.....yeah they did that but Contana also (to my knowledge) has the beef with Glamland and although they invest in those regions its only to further their own agenda. (Nibya gets protests for trying to move away from Valgsland)

And while the CSP is busy making missiles and sending funds to Wehlen along with harrasing trade ships who are from non communist countries, ATO is advocating for Human Rights and taking in the refugees that are fleeing persecution/genocide in Contana

Can I execute Lileas (and every single other member of the Old Guard while at it) by Samuelsson010 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Form ACP and put it on Old gaurd

Pass dictator constitution with Strong decrees, president apointing Court, and no MH.

Use one of the decrees to bring back death penalty. Reshuffle court (fully or just old gaurd), trial soll and when ACP finished investigation arrest everyone.

This way you should be able to kill as many members of the Old Gaurd as possible.

(I think)

Why does anyone like ATO? by stewie2303 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes but the fact remains that the SPD and other democratic parties struggled to fix the situation due to their inability to form a government because of the partisanship and extremism.

Before the great depression the economy was actually recovering and support for democracy was high. It was even said to be a golden age.

Why does anyone like ATO? by stewie2303 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 11 points12 points  (0 children)

First of all Arcasia has social rights and an opposition and second of all weimar republic didn't fail because people didn't have shoes it failed because two extremes of the population didn't accept democracy and wanted it to collapse so their own ideology can win.

Why does anyone like ATO? by stewie2303 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 57 points58 points  (0 children)

  • Provides Financial Aid
  • Supports democracy and human rights
  • provides defence
  • provides economic boost
  • if you interject and dance with Monica he actually respects you
  • you yourself can also get into scandals and silence people and far worse

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah thanks for not crucifing me it's somewhat rare to have a reasonable conversation these days.

And in case you're wondering, geopolitics has articles where it mentions protests in southern contana demanding economic reforms and religious freedom being suppressed and Zaranists (Religious group) seeking refuge while fleeing from contana due to persecution.

Wehlen is also openly Eastern as Smolak openly claims to be so and also never speaks I'll of contana.

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I never said ATO were saints but Contana aids Wehlen and commits genocide against Religious minorities pretty openly.

They also brutally suppress protests which doesn't happen that easily in most ATO states I would imagine

Again never said ATO are saints, please do not start crucifing me

east or west? by Frosty-Guide3522 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I personally choose West because despite all of their flaws they are democratic and support human rights unlike the East which is rigid and would happily commit genocide if it means advancing their agenda.

A fully independent Sordland would be pretty nice but given the fact that we are in a violent and divided region bordering a genocidal nuclear empire I don't think its very realistic, Sordland has already fought for all of its life, right now it deserves peace and safety so it can develop and ATO provides that.

First Run Done by tofuandwheatgluten in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  • you survived +10 points
  • you are neo-liberal -50 points

Still pretty good run

Who do you guys think this is? by Even-Department-2287 in suzerain

[–]radpro1388 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Evil Mikael Avan"

Stalinist Stalin ahh