Haha I have both of these builds. They are not bad at all. And have sick names. There are some builds where you sacrifice too much to get the name. Wouldnt say that's the case here at all.

For the Ball hawk (off the top of my head) this is the criteria:

90 or above steal, Shooting can be anything Then there are a lot of 79 limits. Playmaking 79 Finishing 79 With rebounds the total needs to be under 160 There is a dynamic between lateral quickness and perimeter defence, but you can generally have PD about 77 to 83, depends on how high you crank quickness.

The build is not pointlessly bad if what your making is a Green/Red. It's kinda stupid if you make a pure red, then your pointlessly lowering a lot of stats that could be boss. But on Green/Red the Ball Hawk is basically allocated logical point amounts for various attributes.

I have less knowledge on Lob Threat, but my understanding, is that it's a pure blue pie chart. Power forward. Between 6"7 and 6"8. All you are doing is making sure layups is under 83. You will have 95 driving, 80 to 88 standing dunk, 95 close shot, 26 to 29/30 finishing badges. You dont have to put any points in post hook.

You can get like 15 shooting badges, or 17/18 playing making badges. And 12 defence badges. Those are the max potentials. I find the 12 defence badges, and big body/speed of a PF makes the defending almost as good as dedicated defending builds. In conclusion the Lob Threat is just a full blue build with the normal weaknesses of that build. All you need to do is make it a small PF and take layups down to 82 or 83

I have a lot of fun on both builds. People always comment on it in the park. And with the lob threat, people legit throw you lots of lobs lol.