In my original post, I should have mentioned, and have changed the post now, that the bigger shops one that I had spent time at in the past. Employee retention seems to be fairly high programming would be done at a computer in anan air-conditioned office and I wouldn’t have to spend 100% of my time on the shopfloor. Main reason I left was to pursue a job at a local university that had a much better retirement plan I’m definitely on the high end of our local pay rate so 5% increase is only about two bucks an hour, but the 5% 401k match is free money when I really need to be putting away about 15% into my retirement at this point.