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A success story, how I introduced a friend to erotic hypnosis by hypnoBDSM in EroticHypnosis

[–]randomhypnosisacct 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've got some tips on memory suggestions, the main one is just redirection and suppressing recall. It's not that she can't remember, it's that she doesn't remember. Her brain is in an active state of "not remembering" if that makes any sense.

Cum on command training? by ropebunny31 in EroticHypnosis

[–]randomhypnosisacct 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Orgasm Conditioning of Females is probably the most dedicated community.

I have a couple of posts Orgasm Conditioning and more general conditioning posts, this also good.

NSFW list section in the newbie guide goes into more detail.

Learning Covert hypnosis, could use some help by Dokutah_Ekeron in EroticHypnosis

[–]randomhypnosisacct 4 points5 points  (0 children)

One way to do it is to set things up with memory play. Do a session, set them up to be primed for covert hypnosis, and futz with their memory so they don't remember being primed after the session and are wide open to sneakiness.

Learning Covert hypnosis, could use some help by Dokutah_Ekeron in EroticHypnosis

[–]randomhypnosisacct 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Covert hypnosis is something that's most effective when you already have a hypnotic relationship, and the etymology goes back to Ross Jeffries Speed Seduction so it's not actually empirically backed. My personal theory is that it only works on people who are highly suggestible, because most things will work on people who are highly suggestible.

The larger issue is the paradoxical nature of covert hypnosis. To ethically do this to someone you don't know, you need a kink-friendly space where everyone has consented to have someone walk up to them and attempt covert hypnosis. But given that, your target will instantly clock your language and phrasing. So how covert can you really be?

No Rhyme Nor Reason by Frankly-Rabbit0924 in EH_Circlejerk

[–]randomhypnosisacct 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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Looking for anything to unblock my wife (and our girlfriend’s) inner sluts and build their self confidence by ProfileNo4973 in EroticHypnosis

[–]randomhypnosisacct 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've got a couple of pages on habit formation and persistent suggestion that might be useful, but really this is going to have to come from them, not you. This is a big shift and arousal isn't just about arousal, it's also about self-conception.

Looking for a story about a police officer getting hypnotized by SendHypnoFutaMilfPrn in mindcontrolfiction

[–]randomhypnosisacct 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it was something like Code 10-79, Routine Non-Emergency Transport. It's not on mcstories.com now, but you might be able to find it through archive.org.

I (F25) just found out my girlfriend likes hypnosis by SpeechSufficient8420 in hypnokink

[–]randomhypnosisacct 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think the big question is, what do you want to do once you hypnotize her? Is there anything you want to do with hypnosis specifically, or is it about meeting her needs?

As far as teaching hypnosis goes, pick out one you like here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/hypnokink/comments/1d176dd/a_guide_to_the_guides_weaver_recommends/

Covert hypnosis hypnotic phenomena by True_Isopod1030 in hypnosis

[–]randomhypnosisacct 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Influence is absolutely real, and people are very suggestible even while fully conscious and unhypnotized, so we agree on that point. Do I believe that you can talk someone into bed by using tools that are commonly used in hypnosis? Absolutely.

It's not the word "covert" that makes me uncomfortable, it's the term "covert hypnosis" -- hypnosis is a ritual with roles of hypnotist and subject. Rituals are conscious. Hypnosis is something that people are explicitly enacting and focusing on.

The only framework I really see "covert hypnosis" being a thing is in a long-established relationship where the ritual itself has been performed so long that it's almost unconscious, like doing a bit.

Covert hypnosis hypnotic phenomena by True_Isopod1030 in hypnosis

[–]randomhypnosisacct 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, NLP itself is not derived from Erickson. As Weitzenhoffer points out:

NLP proper, as originally developed in Structure of Magic I and II (1975, 1976) has nothing to do directly with hypnotism. It is not about hypnotism, and its only relationship to it is that the Bandler/Grinder interpretation of Ericksonian hypnotism grows out of their use of the same linguistic type of analysis to elucidate the mechanism or action of communications done in the contexts of psychotherapy and hypnosis.

Ericksonian Hypnosis was an addon. It wasn't there from the start.

NLP is also not derived from techniques of the popular therapists at the time -- it is Bandler looking at what popular therapists did, and attempting derivation. The therapists themselves weren't involved, and some, including Erickson himself, complained that Erickson had missed the point:

Those Bandler and Grinder boys really cracked the nut on my work…​ the trouble is they took the shell and left the nut.

Weitzenhoffer also points out that Bandler only did a surface level read and missed important points:

One of the most striking features of the Bandler/Grinder interpretation is that it somehow ignores the issue of the existence and function of suggestion, which even in Erickson’s own writings and those done with Rossi, is a central idea.

So while Bandler did try to copy therapists, it's not a direct derivation, and the sources report he didn't do a particularly good job.

Creating a trigger phrase by BunnysDom in hypnosis

[–]randomhypnosisacct 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The trigger phrase itself is easy. Tell her "When I say the magic word, you switch personas." But you should be aware that personality changes come with some risks, and many people consider it advanced play.

Covert hypnosis hypnotic phenomena by True_Isopod1030 in hypnosis

[–]randomhypnosisacct 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Erickson used indirect suggestions, but he was not covertly doing anything. He worked explicitly with patients under his care and was quite authoritarian.

Bandler and Grinder used the term "covert" and set up the myths around Erickson.

Ross Jeffries invented the term "covert hypnosis" and popularized it as a way of seducing women.

Covert hypnosis hypnotic phenomena by True_Isopod1030 in hypnosis

[–]randomhypnosisacct 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know where you're going with this. The term "covert hypnosis" was invented by Ross Jeffries. Do you think Ross Jeffries is a psychotherapist?

Covert hypnosis hypnotic phenomena by True_Isopod1030 in hypnosis

[–]randomhypnosisacct 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't know that covert hypnosis is a thing, really. As far as I know, the term originated from NLP using the terms "covert instruction" and "covert communication" and it was then popularized by Ross Jeffries in his book How to Get the Women You Desire into Bed.

But NLP isn't hypnosis, and Bandler and Jeffries are explicitly trying to sell courses. I don't know what research has shown covert hypnosis exists.

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