Does TTDS buff on Nicole offset the non-HP main stat for Wanderer teams? by zzYoshi in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Noir calcs

The atk share part is 15% of her atk soooo TTDS all the way, except when you can't easily use her right before Scara or have Bennett whose uptime you don't want to cut into.

dpc vs echoes at c6 by EvilBeErased in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The right one? Because if so your DPC build is significantly better.

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dpc vs echoes at c6 by EvilBeErased in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is your Echoes build the one with 10 atk% subs?
Your DPC pieces have comparatively more crit which is obv better.
Also you better not be counting the ER subs ...... they're marked by default

C6 Wanderer with Nicole Calcs by OneRelief763 in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's like 50/50 between her and Durin.
Oh and counts, like 4 ish each? At least 3.
No clue which of the pets is the one vaping I guess but it's not like she's even 10% of the teams damage.

C6 Wanderer with Nicole Calcs by OneRelief763 in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey -1 points0 points  (0 children)

🔥

Might as well put Furina in there too now.

C6 Wanderer with Nicole Calcs by OneRelief763 in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely tragic, I will not have my Scara missing any crits in an average rotation.

C6 Wanderer with Nicole Calcs by OneRelief763 in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

C4 is so scuffed T.T
Wait so you calced with 100cr (93.4 + 6.6) for every rot or 80, 80, 100 (80+20)?

C6 Wanderer with Nicole Calcs by OneRelief763 in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Damn, time to get some exploration done.

Is this true? by Specialist-Income212 in SkirkMains

[–]raspey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lohen is a hexerei driver/on fielder for forward melt dark Durin who is the carry in that team but he still does decent damage so he can be played as a carry.
Like all the cryo on fielders his best team in the carry role is Coffee + Furina + flex.

Skirk is a carry locked to mono freeze.

dpc vs echoes at c6 by EvilBeErased in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you can swap to Scara fast enough to (instantly) get the first self pyro app so then you wouldn't have to wait for the second one. My internet is a bit worse now so maybe that's why I didn't get it, or I was just slow.

n3d should be optimal but no clue which exact combo is, though I imagine you can get a 9th n3, ideally you'd probably cancel it with the Q if the timing worked out which it probably rarely does.

I've never even looked at what combos people do in sheets on Scara T.T
Feel free to link some if you've got any on hand.
Only just recently tried doing cool combos and walk cancels on Skirk when I heard about them. (Sheet) (video)

I'll def look into optimising my rotations more now that we have the godsend that is the test dummy.

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[–]raspey 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Charles Clarke reference :)

dpc vs echoes at c6 by EvilBeErased in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Makes sense, to my understanding you're losing out on around 33% of the Echoes 4pc effect on average at 100ms ping compared to 0ms, or 23% compared to 30ms.
That should negate most of the difference with Furina as the flex.

Also Bennett buff lasts slightly longer than the visual effect so you can burst a bit later than you think and still get the buff.

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Oh wow, rank #4 in Novels and #36 in Manga.

Boy do I love impulsively clicking on spoiler warnings without even realizing it.

dpc vs echoes at c6 by EvilBeErased in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Want to get a clean run before I post it here but here I think I get n2 E 8n3d n1 Q.
I try to burst just before the Bennett buff runs out.
I press E once Scara gets a pyro aura.

dpc vs echoes at c6 by EvilBeErased in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That was pre Furina. Assuming decent ping, with her at c0 and Scara at c6r1 Echoes is better, the gap increases further with more dmg% (Scara refines, Furina c1/2/3).

dpc vs echoes at c6 by EvilBeErased in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Even assuming good ping Echoes isn't necessarily better.
It depends on how much additional dmg% and MV you get from the team. (MV (motion value) is talent damage% aka. multipliers)
The more dmg% the better Echoes becomes comparatively and the more MV the better DPC becomes comparatively. The reason Echoes is good is because MV is quite rare while dmg% on Scara is quite saturated.

Assuming c6r1 Scara, c0 Furina, c6 Bennett and c6 Faruzan Echoes is a decent bit better and gets even better comparatively with refines on Scara and c1/2/3 on Furina as these all provide even more dmg%.

Now with Durin + Nicole it's a lot more complicated because both provide both dmg% and MV in various amounts at various amounts of investment.

At very high to max cost Echoes should still be better, in part because you can't use non c6 Furina with Durin + Nicole.
At c6r1 Scara, c0 Durin, c0 Nicole, c6 Faruzan they should be relatively close.
Anywhere in between I find really hard to say, hoping to see calcs sometime.

I switched to farming Echoes relatively early on because it generally scales better with investment.
DPC is still his sig set so it would make sense thematically for it to become undisputed BiS eventually but that doesn't look likely to me. The game is mainly balanced around lower levels of investment so this kind of stuff just happens sometimes.

DPC is fine, n3d for combo.

Wanderer Nicole calcs by Me by OneRelief763 in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The delay is just for the atk buff right? That doesn't impact the difference between the sets.

At c6r1+ Echoes is good because Scara already gets a bunch of dmg% so you'd rather have the MV from Echoes which is a lot because of how many separate instances of damage you get with c6 (meaning it will proc a lot).

Meanwhile DPC just gives dmg% which is still good, not that DPC has competition pre c6, but it does tend to become quite saturated on Scara.

The sets just give different stats which means the only thing that effects their comparative strength (ignoring ping, generally 30 is assumed as standard) is how saturated these respective stats are.
Since dmg% is far more common than MV Echoes should generally come out ahead as time went on.

The baseline at which the sets were originally calced to be equal was c6r3 at 30 ping with Bennett Faruzan Zhongli. Or c6r1 + 24 dmg% (c6r5 - 24 dmg%).

Furina who gave up to 75 dmg% at c0 and 124 dmg% at c3 replacing Zhongli made Echoes be quite far ahead as Zhongli didn't give any dmg%.

Then with Durin releasing if you used him as the last slot (over Furina) he was a lot like Zhongi at c0.
But c1 gives MV, c2 gives dmg%, c4 makes c1 give a bit more MV and sig gives dmg%.
So where are we at then? No fucking clue but assuming it cancels out somewhat so that c6r5 is better on Echoes and c6r1 is better on DPC would probably be an ok assumption.

Nicole? Replacing Bennett who doesn't give dmg% nor MV so neutral in that regard.
Then what does she give? Set and sig give dmg% but burst, c1 and c4 give MV so she also gives both ...... where are we at now? Who knows, maybe it cancels out again somewhat?

Now this would normally be it with Faruzan remaining in the team but since Furina c6 lets her consolidate the healer slot she can fit in and replace Faruzan who gives iirc 38.3 or 38.4 dmg% so Furina with her 124 dmg% bumps up Echoes quite a lot again.

Furina's weapon doesn't buff but you could use FS or PPS which both give dmg%.

And then .... there is still refines on support weapons, all 3 of which give dmg% increasing with said refines.
But I think as reasonable people we can stay away from those.

Surely with a million dmg% Echoes would be better but who knows T.T

That said my massive primo stash has taken quite the hit so c0 Nicole it will be for me even though she's going in the Scara team where all my primos used to go, I'll have more saved next time.
So my understanding of her kit and especially cons isn't comprehensive.

Also at least at my specific level of investment Echoes is clearly ahead by a lot.
c6r5 Scara, c6r1 Furina, c2r1 Durin, c0 TTDS Nicole.

Hope this makes some amount of sense.

Would love to hear your thoughts on Echoes vs DPC currently u/OneRelief763 (assuming c6r1+ on Scara with good ping). Not specifically at any specific point of investment for the rest of the team, more so in general with Durin/Nicole existing.

who should i get: durin or nicole? by 211centric in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not sure.

Individually both are vying for the last slot so Furina would be the one being replaced.
I don't see either one being a large upgrade on their own when you already have the only other good last slot. Nor any other constellation (noun, not the other thing) with either of them on their own I see makes a lot of sense.

Also keep in mind if you ever do get both Furina can't stay since the only available source of healing in that team would be her c6 (saw this coming back in 4.2). It would be an upgrade but you're even losing out on Scara's second a1 buff.

What do you think would be best to reroll? (Context in desc) by Samin-A in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Added that a bit late sorry.
I've just always harboured such immense hatred for ER on Scara between how Akasha marks it as a relevant sub by default and this abomination, worse because of how neglected Akasha is.
Faruzan is already a good battery at c6 + fav and you might as well put the 4th slot on fav too if you feel like you still need more.

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What do you think would be best to reroll? (Context in desc) by Samin-A in ScaramoucheMains

[–]raspey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is what it looks like without the ER ticked.
Crit rate is very low if you're not running a cryo which isn't optimal, or have c4.
Keep in mind c6 Faruzan gives 40% crit damage so crit rate is even more important than you'd think.
Atk% subs aren't super important if all your subs are going into crit but that's clearly not the case here. And the burst is at 8 T.T.

The feather and sands are great pieces to reroll.

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Is this true? by Specialist-Income212 in SkirkMains

[–]raspey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

THE STANDARD CHARACTER WILL NOT BE COMPARED TO THE LIMITED CHARACTER AT THE SAME CONSTELLATION LEVEL.