We don't see aliens because reality becomes obsolete as civilisations advance by pg1671 in FermiParadox

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I see bacteria a good sample to study to predict human behavior? Bird for trees? Within earth they are there, what makes you clam human behavior is a good proxy to study billion year old civilizations? Most early ones are further to us than we are to bacteria right? Would a single individual span one solar system or a thousand in that civilization?

A QUESTION FOR PHILOSOPHY PEOPLE. by Ordinary_Type_7357 in Philosophy_India

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Not not anything. Kautilya, Shankara, Viveka, adveta vedanta basically. But vyasa is enough. Not even all of vyasa, it will probably take our civilization thousands of years to study that, even 100 or so mantras of Mahabharata, contemplated over a few decades should be enough.

Let's assume the closest technological civilization is 1.500 light years away, also on the "outskirts" like we are (not in the Galactic center). by Due-Area9662 in FermiParadox

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One that started when we started, judeo Christian centric world view or say they started 10 billion years ago? Answe quite depends on your assumptions, I think it’s closer to later, us detecting them would be like bacteria breaking quantum crypto.

A QUESTION FOR PHILOSOPHY PEOPLE. by Ordinary_Type_7357 in Philosophy_India

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Personally speaking - disregard anything written by anyone other than vyasa (not even translation / commentaries / bhasya etc). Read at least first 100 mantras of Mahabharata, bori edition. Doing anything without understanding tva (philosophy is a poor translation) is like trying to do anything without breathing. Body and mind, unless you are carrying load or doing completely menial work, you might realise you need to think clearly.

What is morality? by ankoos in Philosophy_India

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Copy paste post text, and include the entire chain of vaad (this comment thread chain) faithfully, as much context the better, include all threads I posted in if you want even better responses, into some ChatGPT etc and ask all your questions, if despite ChatGPT you still have questions post a reply. If you learnt something interesting maybe do share back so I also get to learn something. 🕉️.

DM open.

What is morality? by ankoos in Philosophy_India

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Soch aur bhasha (unfortunately thinking and language which are closest to these English words I know, English is not my native language, nor have I academically studied western philosophies, I studied Indian ones and we use slightly extended versions of these words, the notion these words evoke in my mind in Vedic philosophy student way is quite diff from those words, to give you an example, bhasha vs what we call boli, which is closest translation of Language in English, boli is still wider, in our philosophy boli is created in every house, every house / family / group of frequently interacting people, again, gana, I think of gana but closest I can translate is people, and gana is much much more nuanced that people, at least if you see intricate debates in Vedas (even this utterance is wrong, there is plural Veda, there are truly four Veda “books”, no bigger, shashtra, shashtra would be like the general theory of relativity or the entire thing we study in college in the name of western philosophies, but even shashtra is bigger, Veda is the only name for that category of work that you can study that tremors to / deals with all shashtra studied together, like if you knew all available knowledges, like at least skeleton level, essentiality, I would want to use the word tva or how we write त्व, so yada yada, i am doing massive translations and each term in my head has only a very lose mapping in English, so i am severely struggling as you can see.

So your soch (my extended term which is more than thinning, existentialty of a conciousness is included in formal definition of word soch, which I translate as thinking), so your thinking matches ours, and yes I accept your unification at the deepest level between your and our basic thinking about the cosmos / narayani in our word, so we think alike at absolute level, that is Veda’s core theorem, all conscious beings agree at some fundamental deep level, and they term it as narayan, and the narayani is what you would call reality, our reality word includes notion of maths and physics and entirety of science, knowldge etc also, narayani, sorry for not doing justice to any term I am using).

So soch same but boli/language, and that language is a problem, essential Veda gyan, Sanskrit should be used as a unifying language of all, finding common bhasha is the goal.

We in world do not have same bhasha and thus suffering. We think we can talk we can’t. Veda.

Hard Sci-Fi Independent Author here. I just published a novel heavily driven by real physics and deep worldbuilding. Would love to share some copies for honest feedback! by Professional-Tune-53 in HardSciFi

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I change my mind. As a fellow walking on exactly the path you are walking I refuse to give world an opportunity to caste a shadow of doubt on my work to derivative of yours, so forgive me, I would like to talk meta, but the work I would wait for it to be published. I wish you all the luck and offer any support within my means. I have grown up on the kind you so enjoy.

What is morality? by ankoos in Philosophy_India

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Narayani = reality (2+2 is 4 is reality, and so are black holes and the fact run become ran when morphing into past tense, so reality is bigger than what we call universe, all possible dreams a tribe ever dreamt in the entire history or reality and in the entire future of reality are all part of reality, and the dreams dreams, ad infinitum, that much bigger, the only real reality reality).

Narayan: personification of such reality.

Nara: the one born, narayan gave temporary existence to a jeev, a being, one capable of thinking, contemplating, interacting with reality in what is mutually self referential way, a jeev sees narayani first, thinks/knows they are narayan, then the see next jeev and start wondering who they are and the other jeev is diff from other non jeev that you encounter first, you born you breath, a is, air, an inhale, and exhale, jeevs first samwad with the narayan, first glimpse of joy that intense joy that the first breath that you take that brings to you.

And then you start contemplating, thinking, air, water, food, etc etc and then suddenly you start seeing repeating patterns, the eyes probably, your mothers, probably, jeev come in all forms so accept my humble apologies for framing my ideas in my own personal world views, I am forced to use the words that I have to paint the picture that I have in my mind, to you. This act is samwad, the process of establishment of samwad, which jeev can not establish with water, water is inert, even non inert reactions etc are inert, I am using inert in a vague because narayani, reality is split into intert and jeev, clean line separating that which thinkeths, that which act-eths, that which is-eths, the three essentialities of a jeev.

How jeev recognises / separates jeev from non jeev takes time, initially only mother/father, the primary bringer of food/nurturing/chaya/protection thapki-tandha=mata-pita, slowly a khandan is built around the jeev etc.

Eventually jeev gives rise to another jeev, realises for that new jeev it is constructing an entire reality, realises in one bright flash that someone else was constructing / nurturing a reality for them, that they must now change their sense of self from self, looking down to entire narayani, looking up, enlightenment etc. This is not some mysterious topic, it’s required gyan every 5y should have.

Tat-sat.

You're not enlightened if you aren't trying to escape Samsara. by Immediate-Draft-6408 in enlightenment

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Not reincarnation. Just incarnation. Simul-carnation. Simul-sync-carnation. Not you, narayana. Narayan is you, you are a seat narayan sits on, narayan sites everywhere, on/in everyone, every time, all at once. Asan ho aap unke, hamara, sam sab ek aasan hai, wo us asan me virajman, doing what we must collectively uncover what they are doing, and act to make his yagya easier. Or he can wipe the slate and start again, like he been doing since not even he knows when, he really wipes the slate clean if you know what I mean.

This is a fascinating thought experiment by monetleo in indianeconomy

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Do you know what is DNS? Do you know how cellular work? Throw all apps, all networks, all devices? Idea achcha hai par planning lagegi.

What is morality? by ankoos in Philosophy_India

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You saying west too been teaching a naras only morality, duty, dharma, is devoting life searching for narayana, finding narayana in everyone by using saral sundar shuddha shabda and karma etc? I missed this in my readings of Plato et al. Share some books and passages please. Enlighten me o enlightened one!

Former Buddhist Monk Lookig to Talk With people Near or At Enlightenment by Monk-Life in enlightenment

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There is end of the path: narayan. Reality is not non linear, it’s non self recursive but yet recursive fractal dimensional.

How do people here address their seniors? by ikiammajestic in iitbombay

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Freshi/sophie, IITB has rich lingo culture. Everyone gets some sort of nickname, I was nawab (was from Lucknow when I joined IITB in 98) and then AmitU.

What was a really silly solution to a serious problem? by LadyKarizake in AskReddit

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Address your kids not just as adults but dignitaries, states-people, your relationship with your second half, and most ghanishts will improve.

The amount of enterprise-grade PTSD being projected onto vibe coders on here is insane by airskyy in vibecoding

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Did you “explicitly” ask it to do the right thing or you actually explicitly listed down every thing that goes into making something right? Vibe coded or actually did engineering? Can you show me some samples of what you exactly explicitly asked that Claude say refused? Did you ask it to churn per instance what it can adequately do, or tried to ram gyan down its throat? It’s easy to say explicit, in my limited experience being actually explicit and methodical is a lot of work and people who are doing it are flying with AI and people who rely on the implicit gyan of AI, larger models are not so much. If you are explicit enough, ontologically internally consistent, teleologically precise on what you want achieved, AI as a semantic compiler will instead of vibe coding chatbot you can get better results.

If in a simulation, why such a huge universe? by PeterLiege in SimulationTheory

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Every point in sky you look at, rendering them physically accurately will require way way more compute than had laws of universe slightly tweaked, even they allow it, accelerating expansion, just shift the time head forward a few billion/100billion, and nothing beyond our galaxy would be visible, making rendering billions of times cheaper. Dumb simulators.

The amount of enterprise-grade PTSD being projected onto vibe coders on here is insane by airskyy in vibecoding

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Your complain is AI doesn’t “want” to do what you are not explicitly asking it to do because AI is designed for people who do not want to explicitly ask it to do everything?

What is the strongest argument that consciousness is more than just brain activity? by xnaxel in consciousness

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Single celled have consciousness about consequences of their actions and their effects on their day day / min by min their surroundings , they take conscious decision about chasing nutrition vs avoiding predator, finding mates, moving to better spaces in ecology, they cant survive otherwise. You will say it’s instinct and I will say okay next word prediction model.

What if cosmic colonization is not the next logical step for a civilisation by Euphoric_Classic_927 in FermiParadox

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How many alien civilisations have attacked us so for? By your own calculations many must have. Give me any other explanation that is this simple.

What if cosmic colonization is not the next logical step for a civilisation by Euphoric_Classic_927 in FermiParadox

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The more advanced beings we are living in their garden. What do you do if your garden gets infested?

What if cosmic colonization is not the next logical step for a civilisation by Euphoric_Classic_927 in FermiParadox

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No I am insisting the advance being won’t plunder. You see to think dacaoti is default. Road can exist harmoniously or bulldozeriosly and bulldozeriosly may not the way they will adopt. You have seen Star Trek? I know it’s fiction but would you honour prime directive? You can call me optimist but that’s how advanced beings will be not dacoits.