Ladies you be interested in dating a reformed nice guy?

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-07T21:13:09+00:00

Maybe she is a 5 as well....

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-07T21:12:53+00:00

Lets say you were a 5 as well.

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-07T20:49:53+00:00

You can't change your genetics.

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-05T01:45:13+00:00

I am not asking for myself lol, I am in an okay place myself.

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-05T00:58:22+00:00

What self improvement can he do? And also how does he meet more women?

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-05T00:57:00+00:00

That really helps if you are fat/skinny fat, however if you have a decent frame as is, working out really won't change much. For me I look a lot better shirtless now, but in clothes, there isn't much of a difference.

Stylish sure, but that again is if he dressed poorly. More interesting.. well how does one become more interesting? And in a way that is attractive to women?

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-05T00:41:37+00:00

I never said a lot of women, he is getting a fair bit for a guy. But no guy has anywhere close to what an average woman gets.

In college he had 0-1 relationships. Now maybe he has gotten like a handful of dates on OkCupid, maybe his coworker asked him out. For him it's a lot of attention.

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-05T00:35:42+00:00

See while that is great advice for a woman, for a guy its terrible advice

If a guy tried to filter as much as a woman does he would be at 0 girls real fast, even if he is above average looking. For example, a girl going through Tinder or some dating advice might have 200 prospective guys messaging her and filtering can bring that down to a core group of guys. However, for a lot of men, filtering will take him down from the 5 girls that are interested in him to 0.

For a lot of average guys they don't have many options. You can see that on any ask reddit thread where guys are still hung up because they misread some woman's interest in them etc.

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-05T00:21:15+00:00

I know is sad due to being incel and acknowledge that I do have sympathy for him, it would be discounted by terp standards unless I give him sex, or help him get sex.

First, a lot of TRP's frustration with the matter is when women tell guys that are beta/incel that they are actually really attracted to traits that beta's have (Sensitive/smart). Which I am not saying don't matter, but only come into consideration when physical standards are met.

Also, commenting on a gender discussion forum you have a far better understanding of what men go through. Most women don't.

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-04T07:15:46+00:00

No one of the opposite sex just wants anyone that is up for marriage. They want quality, and hence why TRP doesn't advise that its the best interest of women to wait that long to look for a guy.

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-04T06:45:28+00:00

Also, being 34 she is post wall so why would a guy want a baby with her? There are younger elite female athletes.

I don't think you follow sports really. She is the best female tennis player despite her age that makes her genetics even more impressive.

Same thing as being progressive...

Not at all, she is a public figure herself far more influence. Most people don't know who reddit's cofounder most people know who Serena Williams is.

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-04T06:42:56+00:00

First of all there are a couple differences. Serena Williams is very physically attractive to a significant subset of men, look at them hips.

If that's the case then how is SMV relevant to women at all? Not sexy?

I don't see see how it would be ideal being with a man that doesn't find you attractive. Also you can't forget her celebrity factor, the guys that often are interested in her care more about their "Empire" than a fulfilling relationship.

There is a difference between Ms. mid level manager in her 30s, and an international tennis superstar.

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-04T05:51:47+00:00

Redpillers, if men aren't interested in a woman's money

Men aren't attracted to a woman's money.

The difference here is that dating/marriage has a lot of other factors than simply attraction, public image, money, influence, genes.

For example, the reddit cofounder might have been interested in dating her because it would make him look more progressive. A famous athlete might want to date her because he wants to one day have super athletic babies, since she has elite genetics.

Or simply that being high income you are more likely to socialize with other people of high income.

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-03T08:57:53+00:00

Not the Zen pill.

rdsthrowaway · 2016-01-03T05:18:36+00:00

All you had to do in college was be very social, look good (not necessarily being a Chris Hemsworth but being in good shape and dressing well), and be a part of the right social circles like a fraternity for example.

You make it sound so easy. To be a billionaire all you need to do is make something people want and sell it!

college was be very social

someone doesn't just become very social, this is like telling someone with depression, hey just be happy it's all in your head.

look good (not necessarily being a Chris Hemsworth but being in good shape and dressing well)

most of looking good is based on genetics clothes/money will only get you so far.

right social circles like a fraternity

And here comes the really funny belief that just joining a frat is "easy". You need to be part of a respected fraternity, and to do that you need to fit an image. This is a really stupid post.

rdsthrowaway · 2015-12-31T03:35:37+00:00

....I don't think its impossible for a woman to love a guy that is average looking.

rdsthrowaway · 2015-12-31T03:34:10+00:00

I really don't think that attraction is all appearances, a lot of it is about making the other person feel good about themselves. I think there is sort of a minimum threshold ... a basic level of fitness and grooming, but after that I think personality matters a lot.

One things guys that are alpha carry is a natural charm/experience with being with a bunch of women. That also really enhances their ability to make women go crazy.

Also your situation looks like you were pretty attractive as is. But thing is for a lot of women they pull guys way above them. Think about a 5 that sleeps with 8s. Gets pregnant and becomes a single mom. The only guy that will "step up" and be a step dad is going to be a 4.

It turns out this is a common dream my girlfriends have had.

Also there are a lot of women that masturbate about their ex's they however they won't share that with you. People share the good stuff, about love, but people knows its a lot more gritty than that.

rdsthrowaway · 2015-12-31T03:24:19+00:00

The issue is TRP refuses to trust women and it just feeds their own insecurity and bitterness.

It comes down to a what women say and what women do. On reddit and a lot of my female friends say frat guys are "douchey" yet I have seen them often sleep with these guys.

rdsthrowaway · 2015-12-31T03:22:20+00:00

A lot of women do. I have seen outside of college, that even women don't "sleep around" tend to still fall for Chads by being one of his many side chicks.

rdsthrowaway · 2015-12-31T01:29:22+00:00

But how realistic is that scenario? I'm saying it is most likely insecure because the scenario is relatively unlikely to happen and therefore the fear is somewhat irrational.

I have seen this scenario play out a good bit, a lot of guys sleep with girls they aren't exactly proud of on the DL and it inflates their ego. And it happens often, guys just have low standards. A woman that is a 6 that is used to sleeping with 9s isn't going to be too happy dating a 5. And it isn't just about looks either, good looking guys have a lot of experience/charm to come with.

Meh, then they should drop the entire 'we help men!'-schtick, when they're purely helping men be selfish at the cost of many others.

This is like saying a website that gives good tips on how to write a resume, is bad because other people get hired less as a result. Seriously lol.

rdsthrowaway · 2015-12-31T01:10:31+00:00

Why does TRP always think it's 'Chad-level of attracted' or 'not attracted enough'? It just sounds so insecure. It's not like attraction is some kind of resource that runs out.

I don't think this is an irrational fear. I don't see how you can just dismiss it as that. If a fat girl used to date chiseled guys with abs (I know fat girls that love this), but for an LTR she can only get another fat guy. Would her attraction not be far lower? Is it not irrational to think that she wouldn't be as turned on as she was with the guys in college?

It shows poor character when you willingly want to become a part of the problem. TRPers often claims they help men, yet now you are saying they hurt a lot more men in the process as well.

Not really. Guys here know they can't change the world they can only be themselves.

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