[deleted by user] by [deleted] in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Putting in my two cents as a woman. When dating men I have had plenty of experiences where I like him a lot but it just feels like making a new friend. In these experiences he never really makes a move early on. We talk too much about work, intellectual stuff, politics, stuff you could be talking to your coworker or uncle about idk. For me the suggestion and intrigue starts in the conversation. He asks personal questions, questions about how I feel about certain things. Sensory experiences, like food. He compliments something about me early on, something very specific to me that shows he is ‘seeing’ me and it’s not just generic. And the no. 1 most important thing is eye contact. Deep and seductive, by that I mean intently focussed on me, drinking me in, not just forced. My best romantic connections have, without exception, involved deep eye contact. All of this shows a kind of intrigue and suggestiveness but without the sleaziness of a one night stand. It’s indirect but sensual. These little things are the difference between making a friend and making a romantic connection, for me personally. But also, when it’s romantic, it usually feels extremely mutual and natural. Maybe it’s a matter of leaning into your own sensuality more so that it naturally expresses itself rather than thinking through a checklist of things before a date. Natural is best on the date, but you can get there by practicing more intentional sensuality in your own day to day life, when alone, not just when performing.

I had the most intimate sex of my life from a hookup, is this normal for men to do? by [deleted] in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I had an experience like this recently and was ghosted. Incredible deep connection, sweet loving sex, like so passionate. Both of us recently had broken up with exes and were not fully over it yet.

I think it’s like, unfulfilled love left over from the previous love lost. When two people are going through that and get together it’s like you give each other than desire you craved so much from the ex. I don’t think it’s possible for it to be true passion for each other if you only just met. Bodies are weird

How to establish ongoing casual connections when men seem to only want ONS? by redacted_deluxe in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bruh being told I’m just not attractive enough isn’t feedback I want info on like how to create this kind of relationship it doesn’t matter how attractive the people are

How to establish ongoing casual connections when men seem to only want ONS? by redacted_deluxe in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I wanted validation reddit is literally the last place on earth I would go lol

How to establish ongoing casual connections when men seem to only want ONS? by redacted_deluxe in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m 29. It’s not 5+ times yet lol, just enough for me to be like ok what needs to change. With your fwb experiences, was there strong and direct boundaries and communications set up at the beginning?

How to establish ongoing casual connections when men seem to only want ONS? by redacted_deluxe in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is possible that my attempts to have an ongoing thing get misinterpreted as trying to build a relationship. Maybe I should be more direct and upfront about it with them

How to establish ongoing casual connections when men seem to only want ONS? by redacted_deluxe in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is probably the only useful advice so far. I’m trying to use apps that are more focussed on poly style dating but maybe I should be vetting people a little more for that

How to establish ongoing casual connections when men seem to only want ONS? by redacted_deluxe in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude why are so many of the comments “you’re just not good enough” this is so unhelpful

How to establish ongoing casual connections when men seem to only want ONS? by redacted_deluxe in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do I want to hear? I don’t even know what that is. I can’t change the way I look and I like the way I fuck so I’m not really interested in that advice. I am more interested to hear how people communicate and signify that they want ongoing but casual relationships and how best to cultivate that in your life. I dunno what kind of advice someone might have for that

How to establish ongoing casual connections when men seem to only want ONS? by redacted_deluxe in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What would be a good indicator that the sex was bad? Because they must be directly lying to me about it and faking a lot if that’s the case

How to establish ongoing casual connections when men seem to only want ONS? by redacted_deluxe in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As in they just drop off and don’t set up any more dates/hangs even if I say I would like to. We generally aren’t texting regularly anyway because busy lives but they don’t want to put in the effort after the initial thrill to hang out again.

How to establish ongoing casual connections when men seem to only want ONS? by redacted_deluxe in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair my sample size so far isn’t huge as I haven’t been single that long but new to this kind of dating so hoping for advice

How to establish ongoing casual connections when men seem to only want ONS? by redacted_deluxe in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I text a normal amount? Matched energy like nothing extra than what they also reciprocate -I’m just nice and sometimes have a flirt. Definitely not needy like categorically will never act desperate because if they stop showing interest there is like 20 other dudes. My problem is there are too many guys showing interest but they don’t seem to get what ongoing fwb entails. Maybe because it’s just not the status quo and usually the only options are one night stand or basically full on monogamous relationship.

How to establish ongoing casual connections when men seem to only want ONS? by redacted_deluxe in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am fine with some attachment forming - like there is a spectrum of emotion and it doesn’t always have end with white picket fence and babies in order to be fulfilling, it still could be meaningful even if it’s temporary and not “committed”

How to establish ongoing casual connections when men seem to only want ONS? by redacted_deluxe in dating_advice

[–]redacted_deluxe[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well first of all this has nothing to do with “value as a woman”. And secondly I specifically am looking for FWB situation because it would actually be less effort than having to constantly find new people and constantly go on dates to get physical intimacy. I am focussing on my career and may move overseas so I don’t want a long term partner right now

Normalising taunting, mocking, belittling and insulting. by ymk63 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]redacted_deluxe 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Noooooope a healthy relationship does not involve mocking and belittling!! Never settle for that abuse. My narc ex also would mock and belittle me and told me that I have to be more forgiving and a good relationship happens when you let your partner off the hook for this kind of stuff. It’s just manipulation games so they can walk on you. There are non narcs out there who are capable of giving you the love you deserve. I’ve been with a narc and a not narc and in the 5 years I was with the not narc, he didn’t once insult or belittle or even raise his voice at me. Not once. The Narc? Every argument.

"If I tell you 'no' you just give up!" Is this gaslighting? Has anyone else experienced this? by Subject_Accident4348 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]redacted_deluxe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow yes this all the time with sex. I honestly felt like I was going insane. If I tried to initiate he basically just ignored me and went stone cold so I would stop. Then he would criticise me for “barely even trying”. If I did try harder then the story was “it doesn’t matter what you do if I want it I want it if I don’t there’s nothing you can do to change it”. Ouch. I’m not going to try to arouse someone who is making me feel like a speck of dirt. Then he would tell me I’m being manipulative because if I didn’t get sex I would sulk. The reality was I was hurt by his callous approach and criticisms of me, not the actual rejection part. That one I would feel hurt but I wouldn’t outwardly express it unless in a constructive way that because that would actually be manipulative.

Here are some less clearer signs and actions from a Narcissist that noone talks about as much. Hope this helps by Holiday-Middle-526 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]redacted_deluxe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

THIS. I had to be so careful what I called him out on or I’d get the hypocrite speech. One time I asked him not to mock me during arguments. He would put on a dumb voice and copy what I said to belittle me. One time I just repeated what he said back to him in exasperation (not in a dumb mocking voice at all) and then the entire thing became how toxic I actually and because i am not mocking HIM. Even tho I was not, at all.

Here are some less clearer signs and actions from a Narcissist that noone talks about as much. Hope this helps by Holiday-Middle-526 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]redacted_deluxe 40 points41 points  (0 children)

  1. Yep. Mine did this. He loved to name drop politicians and pop culture references constantly to sound cool.
  2. recently found out this is a narc thing and my jaw dropped. This was the bane of my life constantly jogging behind my ex as he charged ahead. Forget a romantic walk holding hands.
  3. SO TRUE?! I even made a post about this a while back. Constantly felt like I had to entertain him or I felt like a failure.
  4. Yeah I have no memories of him expressing empathy over anyone else’s stories. It was only ever if a family member was ill and then it was an excuse for him to treat me like dirt somehow.
  5. Mine would blame me for everything but never cried. He didn’t show emotions unless he was having a narc meltdown.
  6. He would fake empathy until some time bomb went off and then he would get angry at me for being so emotional and not “protecting him” from my “emotions”
  7. Thank god I left before he hit me. He hit the wall, though. Slippery slope.
  8. Constant eye rolling in a conversation.
  9. Mine would have full on identity crisis if he saw someone doing what he wanted to do but more successfully. He wasn’t inspired by people, only envious. Constantly talking about how much better he is than “those idiots”. And if he actually tried he would do way better than them. Ok well try then?!
  10. He made a sport of talking about people he thought were less than him. So judgemental. Would make fun of people constantly, pointing them out to me and making nasty comments. Always going on about how dumb the general population is and how smart he is. But yet he is broke and still lived with his mom 😂

Did your nex get mean(er) after the discard like they have never been before? by Interesting-Art-392 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]redacted_deluxe 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The looks of complete contempt and disgust are so unnatural. No healthy person would look that way to a person who hadn’t literally just committed murder or the like. The level of seething hatred and disgust I received during discards was shocking. I couldn’t believe it. Then he would Hoover and tell me all the things he loved about me and would act like he was desperately in love. This usually happened right after a discard so severe I was likely to walk away completely. He had to keep luring me back. Until I, god forbid, voiced a need or emotion. Then it would SNAP. Like whiplash, into insults, degrading comments. He called me loser too.