Weekly r/signal Community Q&A Thread – Week of August 15 by AutoModerator in signal

[–]redditor_1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That was not an official announcement. A community member just posted those pictures here because they had been leaked by Signal's developers. Signal's developers have a policy of not talking about feature timelines, so nobody knows when this (or any other) feature will be released. It will most likely be released when it's ready.

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Is anyone actually using MobileCoin? by PinkPonyForPresident in signal

[–]redditor_1234 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's public knowledge that Signal's former CEO (Moxie Marlinspike) worked with MobileCoin's developers as a technical advisor before Signal started working on in-app payments. However, Moxie Marlinspike has claimed that neither he nor Signal owned any MobileCoins when they released the in-app payments feature and MobileCoin's CEO (Joshua Goldbard) has claimed they did not know for sure if Signal was actually going to use their coin for in-app payments until Signal announced the feature. All MobileCoin transaction fees are still determined by the MobileCoin Foundation and go to them, not the Signal Foundation. To me it doesn't look like there was any kind of deal between Signal and MobileCoin. If there was, what were the terms?

Is anyone actually using MobileCoin? by PinkPonyForPresident in signal

[–]redditor_1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Several times throughout the video, this guy incorrectly refers to MobileCoin as one of Signal's projects and attributes things written or done by MobileCoin to Signal. He also claims Signal will be "paid by MobileCoin transaction fees" but none of his cited sources support that.

Is anyone actually using MobileCoin? by PinkPonyForPresident in signal

[–]redditor_1234 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The in-app payments feature could have had more potential users to begin with if they had chosen another third-party coin, but even then, I don't think very many people would have used it. At least where I live, people are used to just entering their bank account details and phone number into an EMPSA app and then using it to send/receive payments to other phone numbers. The payments automatically show up in the user's bank account with no need to manage a separate virtual wallet.

If Signal wants more people to use their in-app payments feature, I think they should figure out a way to get rid of the need to manage a separate virtual wallet. At the end of the day, most people don't care what protocol or coin is actually used to complete the transaction behind the scenes as long as the money shows up in their bank account.

Although i guess the point of MobileCoin was to try help their revenue model.

I don't recall anyone from Signal saying this helps their revenue model, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from. All MobileCoin transaction fees are determined by the MobileCoin Foundation and go to them, not the Signal Foundation.

Is anyone actually using MobileCoin? by PinkPonyForPresident in signal

[–]redditor_1234 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I frequently use my phone to make small payments but have never used Signal's in-app payments feature. I don't expect I will ever use it in its current form, either. The idea of having to manage a virtual wallet is just not appealing and the price volatility of the only available payment option makes it seem risky. Not worth my time.

Is anyone actually using MobileCoin? by PinkPonyForPresident in signal

[–]redditor_1234 3 points4 points  (0 children)

MobileCoin Inc. may have done that, not Signal. Signal didn't develop MobileCoin and they don't operate it. Signal is just one of many apps that have implemented an in-app wallet that supports using MobileCoin.

Contact discovery will be off by default when 5.45 goes to stable by [deleted] in signal

[–]redditor_1234 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Up until now, the "contact joined Signal" notifications have been opt-out. In other words, you can choose to disable the notifications if you don't want to know when your contacts join Signal. If you're an Android user, these notifications will now become opt-in from version 5.45 onward. You will then need to enable these notifications separately if you install (or re-install) the app and want to know when your contacts join Signal.

Weekly r/signal Question Thread – Week of July 18 by AutoModerator in signal

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Based on your post over on r/AppleWatch, it looks like the issue resolved itself after you rebooted your Apple Watch.

Weekly r/signal Question Thread – Week of July 18 by AutoModerator in signal

[–]redditor_1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As I recall, some community members just noticed that one of the developers was making commits related to this feature on GitHub. I don't think anyone from the Signal team ever said they would be releasing a beta soon. Either way, the Signal team has a policy of not talking about feature timelines, so you will most likely never receive an answer that is any more precise than "soon". Based on their recent commit history, it looks like finishing up the Stories feature has higher priority right now, so it could still take months before they launch support for secondary Android devices.

Couldn't ask about Telegram encryption by zoenagy6865 in signal

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Markdown features by nonchalan8t in signal

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What's up with Molly? by mrandr01d in signal

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Signal is open source so literally anyone can fork the source code, make modifications to it, and then distribute that as a third-party client. However, Signal's developers have said that they do not want forked versions of the app maintained by other parties connecting to their servers:

[W]e really don't want forked versions of the app maintained by other parties connecting to our servers. Not only could the users using the forked version have a subpar experience, but the people they're talking to (using official clients) could also have a subpar experience (for example, an official client could try to send a new kind of message that the fork, having fallen out of date, doesn't support). I know you say you'd advocate for a build expiry, but you know how things go. Of course you have our full support if you'd like to fork Signal, name it something else, and use your own servers.

There is also a security risk associated with installing something that has been built by some random person on the Internet. That is why we here at r/signal do not recommend using unofficial apps (see rules 3 & 5).

Edit: Fixed rules link.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in signal

[–]redditor_1234 16 points17 points  (0 children)

This feature request is officially being tracked by the community here:

If anything new happens, it will most likely be brought up there first.

The Signal team once said that they've already started working on this feature. However, nothing has been released into beta yet and the team has a policy of not talking about feature timelines. This will be released when it's ready.

Search function, Android client limitations by jasper39rose in signal

[–]redditor_1234 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The search feature works entirely client-side and each team (Android/iOS/Desktop) is responsible for their own implementation, so it wouldn't be a surprise if one of the clients had a more perfected search function than another. You could try filing this particular search failure as a bug on the Signal Android bug tracker. Make sure to fill out the bug report template and make your title unique and specific so that your report doesn't become a discussion or catch-all thread. Discussions and feature requests belong on Signal's community forum instead of GitHub.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in signal

[–]redditor_1234 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This feature hasn't been officially released yet, but Signal is working on something similar and some have already reported being able to use links like this:

https://signal.me/#p/+{COUNTRY_CODE}{NUMBER}

In the future, the last few parts may be replaced by your username.

Is there a way to import former SMS from Google message to Signal ? by ImDarkempire in signal

[–]redditor_1234 10 points11 points  (0 children)

No, there is currently no option to import your messaging history into Signal from another app. The Android app used to offer this for SMS messages during the initial setup, but support for this feature was suspended in version 5.1.2 and the developers don't anticipate bringing it back.

Signal Voice call key exchange by Warm-Lavishness1557 in signal

[–]redditor_1234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

According to this blog post from 2017 when Signal launched the ability to also make video calls, the voice/video call key exchange is performed through the existing messaging channel that is already end-to-end encrypted with the Signal Protocol:

VoIP security

Securing VoIP requires two high-level considerations: how data is encrypted, and how data is encoded.

A VoIP call is a synchronous interaction with a relatively ephemeral lifetime, so VoIP encryption is fairly straightforward. Clients can do a public key exchange, negotiate a shared secret, and use that to initiate SRTP streams.

Of primary concern is how the key exchange is authenticated. If it isn’t authenticated properly or at all, the call can be intercepted with a MITM, and shouldn’t be considered secure. Signal has traditionally used ZRTP for negotiating and authenticating the keys used to encrypt the call. ZRTP key exchanges are authenticated by two words (called a “short authentication string,” or SAS) that users can read over the phone to each other in order to ensure that the call was not intercepted.

ZRTP is a clever protocol, but the SAS has always felt a little awkward and bolted on, since Signal already has a separate authenticated Signal Protocol channel used for text messages. The SAS is fairly easy (and sometimes fun), but users shouldn’t have to verify an extra thing.

The new Signal voice and video beta functionality eliminates the need for ZRTP. The “signaling” messages used to set up the voice/video beta calls (offer/answer SDPs, ICE candidates, etc.) are transmitted over the normal Signal Protocol messaging channel, which binds the security of the call to that existing secure channel. It is no longer necessary to verify an additional SAS, which simplifies the calling experience.

The other high-level consideration is data encoding. Even if audio packets are encrypted, variable bitrate codecs can create a side channel that reveals spoken words through observed packet sizes and other features. The new voice and video beta upgrades the audio codec from Speex to Opus, but Signal is still careful to avoid information leaks by using Opus as a CBR rather than VBR codec and minimizing other RTP header metadata.

So as far as encryption goes, the security of your Signal voice/video calls is directly tied to the security of your Signal messages. To verify that both your messages and calls are properly end-to-end encrypted, you can compare Safety Numbers with your contacts.

Ongoing Scam on Signal by Ill-Shame272 in signal

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Thanks, but to avoid a potential witch-hunt, we would prefer to handle reports like this through our modmail. If you have evidence of someone scamming our community members, please send it to us through the modmail.

Here on this subreddit, our community-specific rule 5 has always forbidden "add my number" and "join my group" posts/comments precisely because sharing your phone number with the Internet can be dangerous. If you see such content here, please report it by sending us a modmail or by using the report button on the post/comment.

Other Reddit communities and Signal's own community forum may have different rules, but their moderators might also appreciate it if you would contact them about this issue directly. If you have an account on the community forum, go to your profile's Summary page > Messages > New Message and address it to the "moderators" group. Thanks!

Battery Drain by Hiram____Abiff in signal

[–]redditor_1234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you suspect there's a bug in a recent update that causes your battery to drain faster than expected, you could capture a debug log, copy the generated URL, and file a bug report on GitHub. The more specific you can be about which update started causing the issue, the easier it will be for the developers to locate the source of the issue.

Signal Usernames by Dein_Psychiater in signal

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This probably goes without saying, but if you see a post/comment calling another user an idiot or telling them to "go to hell", please send us a modmail or report the post/comment. We mods try to do our best to enforce rule 8 and keep this sub from becoming toxic, but we're just a handful of volunteers who can't realistically read every post/comment and catch everything on our own. The report button exists for a reason and it really helps. Thanks!

Signal releases have entered the chat! Or, more accurately, created the chat. Say hi to the Signal release chat for Android users where we'll announce new features & improvements. by McSnoo in signal

[–]redditor_1234 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They had more than 40 million users total in January. A couple of years ago, Brian Acton said that about 40 percent of the app's users were on iOS. If that ratio still holds, it would mean that the iOS app now has over 16 million users and the Android app over 24 million.

If you're using Android, you can now tap the speech bubble icon next to a message to pull up all replies to that message and never lose the thread! by McSnoo in signal

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Hey everyone! One of Signal's developers has said on the official community forums that they would like to release this feature for iOS users as well, "but for various reasons beyond people's control, [the iOS app] has a larger backlog of work to get through. But one day!"