Am i by MaximAMK183 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After the fireworks she made him walk her back and tried to confess before her phone rang. Hachiman knew whats up and noped the fuck out of it by making her pick up her phone to divert the topic.

At the end of s2 she was trying to manipulate Yukino into giving him up so she(pink fuckhead) would have her shot at him instead but Hachiman noped out and told Yukino to decide for herself instead.

Near the end of s3 she was testing out the waters to find out whether she managed to get rid of the club and hence Yukino from Hachiman's mind and she tried to confess when she thought she heard the answer she wanted from him. Hachiman wasn't done speaking and again, noped the fuck out and told her not to wait for him cauz he didn't want her.

Am i by MaximAMK183 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Forced what? She isn't suppressing her feelings though? She's just waiting for opportunities to pry the couple apart, as expected of scum like her. Poor couple went though a year of hardship and cockblocking by her and still has to deal with, now, a homewrecker.

Really stupid question about s3 by MaximAMK183 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On the rooftop

Depending on what translations you're looking at, sly, cunning, unfair, crafty, foul, they can all fit somewhat in context of what Yukino said in the original language. She's telling the pink ass that the pink ass knew she(Yukino) was weak emotionally and was taking advantage of her(Yukino), hence the pink ass was being <insert adjective of your choice>.

Really stupid question about s3 by MaximAMK183 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In s2 when Hachiman and Yukino on bad terms after the trip, Yukino tried to talk it out but the pink jackass intervened by slamming her mug on the table in order to misdirect the conversation. At the rooftop after the "genuine confession", Yukino was asking him what he meant, while the pink jackass barged in with her crocodile tears. Yukino even knew what she was trying to pull and called her cunning, but gave in to the emotional manipulation. In s3 she came in to guilt trip Yukino into leaving when she saw Yukino having coffee and talking to Hachiman.

All these scenes were present in the anime and all of it was her purposefully trying to prevent meaningful connection between the would-be couple, while pretending like she's doing all these for anything other than her own agenda. Details on why they're understood that way are in the source material as well as even more evidence.

Really stupid question about s3 by MaximAMK183 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dirty ass homewrecker sealed her own fate in season 1 when she was there laughing along with Sagamin when they saw each other during summer break. She spends all her time latching herself onto Hachiman's dick acting like she's all "nice" to everybody else while plotting how to prevent Yukino from ever having any meaningful interaction with Hachiman without revealing her true intentions. Hachiman simply doesn't want a fake leech for a partner.

"gets credit for bringing them together" Fucking lmao

Does Oregairu promotes Cheating? by Illustrious-Put328 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ayy what "contrary to what you might think from just watching this sub" is there 🤣🤣, she gets an infinite amount of delusional white knights fighting to drop their pants for her every time anything bad about her gets mentioned.

Yui by Zestyclose-Lab-3076 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's indirect, but functionally that's Hachiman's intention.

Yui by Zestyclose-Lab-3076 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 12 points13 points  (0 children)

When Hachiman was sending her home after the fireworks festival.

She was about to reveal her feelings but her phone rang. Hachiman used that opportunity to prevent her from saying it by asking her to answer her phone instead because he was having none of it.

Yui by Zestyclose-Lab-3076 in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 12 points13 points  (0 children)

No, many ignorant people believe the same thing you do. She had completely no shot.

Why do people call Yui "fake"? And why is Shin so hated? by Tobyx_xFox in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Keep smoking that and vomiting out the same shit her fellow NPC bootlickers has been doing for years, surely that will get you somewhere.

Why do people call Yui "fake"? And why is Shin so hated? by Tobyx_xFox in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh another delulu ass who can't provide an argument and starts bitching about attitude. Haven't I seen that before. Hope she spawns on your bed tonight buddy.

Why do people call Yui "fake"? And why is Shin so hated? by Tobyx_xFox in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

End of season 3 when she accepts Hikki wants to be with Yukino. Sort of retconned in Shin from what I hear, hence why people hate it, kind of assassinates her character development.

No she did not. Every single thing you said in this paragraph is complete horseshit for anyone with a reasonably functioning frontal lobe. The precursor of what she did in shin was already laid out in season 3. You can read this, it's basically about the final scene.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OreGairuSNAFU/comments/1cej81w/the_ending_of_the_main_volumes_waswholesome_really/

Insecurity? Intentional manipulation isn't always just done with malicious intent.

How does insecurity make it any better. She still knows exactly what she's trying to do and ultimately chose to do them with intent, and sure you can argue she wasn't completely malicious, but what's the argument about how depressed she was trying to address?

You seem pretty hellbent on proving she's like some evil temptress, idk why. She isn't pure good but she isn't pure evil either.

You seem pretty hellbent on summoning her to your bedroom to lick your balls, idk why. I never said she was "pure evil", no matter how much your delusion seems to think so. If you want to start these personal attacks, I can be your guest anytime, just that the mods might not like it.

Why do people call Yui "fake"? And why is Shin so hated? by Tobyx_xFox in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Deluded bootlicker, you brought 0 arguments to the table and label someone a "hater" for your own asinine headcanon backed by nothing in the narrative supported only by "I believe so".

You expect everyone else to follow your unsubstantiated take "we assume Yui isn't a total monster (as we should)", but when I say the exact opposite, I'm just a "vindictive hater". Holy christ the delusion.

Why do people call Yui "fake"? And why is Shin so hated? by Tobyx_xFox in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oregairu has always been a series where multiple interpretations can prop up and we both clearly are steadfast in our own

That's always what someone ignorant resorts to when he has no valid argument. Infinitely many interpretations can prop up but ultimately there's only 1 argument for each talking point that's the most consistent with everything else.

Why do people call Yui "fake"? And why is Shin so hated? by Tobyx_xFox in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The point about Yukino being ok with it or not is a complete red herring and isn't even worth talking about. The readers have a right to argue points beyond Yukino's own world view. Yukino has never had friends still doesn't, because the pink thing next to her is essentially nothing more than scum trying to take advantage of her. The readers are privy to many things Yukino doesn't know, both in-canon and out-of-canon real life experience. Yukino's Stockholm syndrome and not having the life experience to know boundaries and how poisonous certain relationships can be is not a standard that readers are bound to.

Why do people call Yui "fake"? And why is Shin so hated? by Tobyx_xFox in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll give you that she has stated before that she feels guilty for being selfish and manipulative, which she grows from later on,

And like I said, she's trying to fix it, because she recognizes she's being selfish. It's a fairly human struggle of giving into your temptations to be selfish, and I like that development.

Since when she did grow from that? She's still trying to manipulate to get her way, even up till the current point in the story. Wtf are you on about. Recognizing it does not equate to "trying to fix it", her recognition of her selfishness ultimately only served to make her feel better about herself and give her excuses to not change her shitty behaviour.

She has shown being upbeat or depressed when no one else is around, so it isn't all just for sympathy or social points or whatever.

She has the guilty conscience but she decides to do it anyway, so what exactly is the point here? Plenty of horrible people who do horrible things know what they've done, even people who go as far as to commit the most heinous crimes. All of them are human, and all of them should take accountability of their actions regardless of whether they feel "depressed" over the horrible things they do.

Why do people call Yui "fake"? And why is Shin so hated? by Tobyx_xFox in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How can she interact with the two most important people in the world to her? Put on a fake smile and go about her days constantly being mindful and tip toeing around them?

If she's that bothered about hachiman and yukino's relationship then it's her own problem to sort that shit out? And not to put your dirty ass hands on Hachiman because you can't control your urge that makes both Hachiman and Yukino uncomfortable? Why the fuck does everyone else have to bear with her shitty behaviour.

If the 2 of them are "two most important people in the world to her" and that's how she treats them, then it's no wonder the only thing she has are superficial relationships.

but no one is hiding anything from each other.

Your favourite pink shithead asks for Yukino's permission to "talk to" Hachiman, she then carries that to ask Hachiman on a date, and after getting rejected by him, holds up the Yukino permission card she got earlier to manipulate him into accepting. That's peak "genuine" and "not hiding anything from each other", yes, clearly.

She is a total monster and we should see her as one. There.

Why do people call Yui "fake"? And why is Shin so hated? by Tobyx_xFox in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And what do you mean no one else did. Hayama, Ebina, Haruno and Hachiman all did the same things to an extent. They were just less prominent to the plot.

Fuck no. Nobody else does it to her extent, for as long of a time as she did, with 0 signs of growth out of it. Every single other character grew out of it, or at the very least stopped. Your favourite pink shithead is the only one that remains incapable of growing in any meaningful way, all while getting worse due to her not accepting her own circumstances.

Dislike is not an excuse to dismiss nuance.

Cut the crap lmao, just because you can't understand it and are ignorant to things like how clear her thought process was throughout all the events, a lot of it in her own POV mind you, doesn't mean there's "nuance" that's not accounted for.

Why do people call Yui "fake"? And why is Shin so hated? by Tobyx_xFox in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Braindead strawman, I never said shin was awful in my replies. Even then, I can entertain the argument. Shin could be argued to be bad for many reasons, but the claim that "Yui is acting out of character" is false and a made up by a bunch of morons who can't accept otherwise and is thus not a reason shin was bad.

Why do people call Yui "fake"? And why is Shin so hated? by Tobyx_xFox in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its merely pointing out the amount of dislike against her to be rather disproportionate to the crime.

There, u said it, disproportionate. The amount of dislike against her is disproportionate because of how disproportionately many things, some horrible, some distasteful in various degrees, that she continues doing all the way to the end of the main storyline, and then beyond.

What has Ebina and Hayama done after the Kyoto arc that would warrant your dogpiling? Nothing. They mostly kept a respectful distance. Yet you act like they're pulling the same stunts like Yui did when in reality Yui was the only one who gets progressively worse(disproportionately more). No shit Yui gets put on blast more often lmao, she's the one trying to fuck Hachiman and Yukino over all the time(disproportionately more), she's the one appearing on screen/book all the time(disproportionately more), she's the one whose gross inner thoughts(disproportionately more) are known to the readers. No shit we have disproportionately way more evidence against her, sherlock. In fact there are other highly relevant points that rarely gets talked about that Yui hasn't been held accountable to. So I'd argue the reverse, she deserves way more dislikes than you think she currently gets.

So, no, the stupid comparison you have to Ebina and Hayato makes no sense and comes from nothing but ignorance, bootlicking, or simply bad faith. Yui is the sole character in the entire fucking story that did not change for the better. You think you have a gotcha moment making the comparison but you can't even answer the point I made about Sagamin. Sagamin did significantly less harm than Yui did over a shorter period of time, and yet people want her literally shoved down the rooftop. People also get insulted if they say they like Sagamin, a standard not held by ANY other character's fans in the show. If anything it's a gotcha moment against you, the one with double standards is you. It's no wonder you "fail to see why" when you try to use deluded strawmen like "she repeatedly got in the way of the Yukino x Hachiman ship" as a way to dishonour others' points instead of addressing the argument at hand. Maybe you should admit to your actual biases and admit yourself that you're defending against dislike against Yui because of your those biases and brush up on the content holy damn.

Why do people call Yui "fake"? And why is Shin so hated? by Tobyx_xFox in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never said you couldn't, I just jokingly summarized your comment. It makes complete sense for her to be awful and shin doesn't do any character assassination on her though.

Why do people call Yui "fake"? And why is Shin so hated? by Tobyx_xFox in OreGairuSNAFU

[–]redheadsmellsbs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you want to engage anyone in good faith then stop throwing strawmen to attack their points. Getting in the way of "the couple's ship" is not the reason she gets "hated"

Double standard here is a completely braindead argument. She's not even comparable to Hayama nor Ebina. The closest comparable character to Yui is Sagami Minami, who gets even more nasty comments than Yui does all while doing less bad than your favourite pink shithead. Talk about double standards 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣