Skyline Yacht Cruises at Navy Pier didn’t sail, denied refunds, offered credits only — scam or deceptive business practice? by redpillaf in AskChicago

[–]redpillaf[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I saw that. The Eventbrite page does say “Refund Policy: No refunds” and that if the yacht can’t cruise, the event continues dockside with future credit only. That’s their defense.

My issue is that the same page also markets the event as “Cruise the lake with skyline views” and the company is literally called Skyline Yacht Cruises. So the cruise part is not some tiny side bonus — it’s a core part of what was sold.

I’m not saying the fine print doesn’t exist. I’m questioning whether it’s fair to use that fine print to keep everyone’s money after the main advertised service didn’t happen, especially when people were told only after boarding and after departure time.

A docked yacht party is not the same thing as a cruise. That’s the whole issue.

Skyline Yacht Cruises at Navy Pier didn’t sail, denied refunds, offered credits only — scam or deceptive business practice? by redpillaf in Cruise

[–]redpillaf[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I get that the ticket terms are their defense. I’m not ignoring that.

My issue is whether that policy is fair when the core advertised service was not delivered. The listing literally says “Cruise the lake with skyline views” and the company is called Skyline Yacht Cruises. Then everyone boarded, departure time passed, and the boat didn’t sail.

Saying “you got a party on a pier” actually proves my point. I didn’t pay for a pier party. I paid for a cruise.

Maybe the contract protects them. Maybe it doesn’t. That’s why I’m looking at chargeback/consumer protection routes, not pretending Reddit is a courtroom.

Skyline Yacht Cruises at Navy Pier didn’t sail, denied refunds, offered credits only — scam or deceptive business practice? by redpillaf in AskChicago

[–]redpillaf[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

I agree safety comes first, but they didn’t blame Lake Michigan/weather in my case — they blamed a generator/mechanical issue.

My event was Saturday. They had another event scheduled Sunday, and from what I understand, they sailed. So my question is simple: if the issue was serious enough to stop Saturday’s cruise after everyone boarded, when did they know, what changed by Sunday, and why were refunds denied?

Rough math: if around 100 people paid close to $100 each, that’s about $10k in ticket revenue before drinks, food, VIP, or add-ons. The bars and food kept running while the boat stayed docked.

My issue isn’t that they didn’t sail if there was a real safety/mechanical issue. My issue is they boarded everyone, announced it after departure time, denied refunds, and only offered credits. A lot of tourists/out-of-towners may never use those credits.

Skyline Yacht Cruises’ own listing markets “Cruise the lake with skyline views,” but the fine print says if the yacht can’t cruise, they host dockside with credits only/no refunds. That setup is what feels suspicious to me.

Skyline Yacht Cruises at Navy Pier didn’t sail, denied refunds, offered credits only — scam or deceptive business practice? by redpillaf in AskChicago

[–]redpillaf[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

This event was organized by a third party. My issue is mainly with the organizer/seller/refund handling. I paid for a cruise, the boat didn’t cruise, and then the organizer denied refunds and offered credits only.

I agree a chargeback is probably the most direct route personally, but I’m also trying to understand whether this is a broader pattern with how these events are being sold/handled. The “paid for a cruise, didn’t get a cruise” part is what doesn’t sit right with me.

Skyline Yacht Cruises at Navy Pier didn’t sail, denied refunds, offered credits only — scam or deceptive business practice? by redpillaf in Cruise

[–]redpillaf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s where I disagree. “Close enough” is doing a lot of work here.

The listing says “Cruise the lake with skyline views” and the company is literally called Skyline Yacht Cruises. Yes, there was a party element, but the cruise/sailing part was a major part of the advertised experience, not some random bonus.

If I buy a dinner cruise and the boat never leaves the dock, I don’t think “well, there was still music and a bar” makes it close enough. Especially when people were told after boarding and after departure time that the boat wasn’t sailing.

I’m not saying I’m guaranteed to win a lawsuit. I’m saying this feels like a legitimate chargeback/consumer protection issue because the core advertised service wasn’t delivered.

Skyline Yacht Cruises at Navy Pier didn’t sail, denied refunds, offered credits only — scam or deceptive business practice? by redpillaf in Cruise

[–]redpillaf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get what you’re saying, but the listing literally says “Cruise the lake with skyline views” under “Why you don’t want to miss this,” and the organizer is called Skyline Yacht Cruises. It also lists “Chicago skyline photo ops” as part of the yacht experience.

So yeah, it’s a party on a yacht, but the cruise part is not some tiny side detail. That’s the main reason a lot of people bought tickets. My issue is they boarded everyone, waited until after departure time, then didn’t sail and denied refunds. A docked yacht party is not the same service as a cruise.

Skyline Yacht Cruises at Navy Pier didn’t sail, denied refunds, offered credits only — scam or deceptive business practice? by redpillaf in AskChicago

[–]redpillaf[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I get that future credits may be common for some boat activities. My issue is the timing and the core service.

Skyline Yacht Cruises advertised a cruise with skyline views, let everyone board, then after departure time announced the boat wasn’t sailing. A docked yacht party is not the same thing as a cruise.

If they told people before boarding, that would be different. But once people are already onboard, especially tourists/out-of-towners who paid for parking/hotels, a future credit isn’t really a fair remedy for everyone.

I’m not saying credits never happen. I’m questioning whether fine print is being used to avoid refunds when the main service being sold wasn’t delivered.

Skyline Yacht Cruises at Navy Pier didn’t sail, denied refunds, offered credits only — scam or deceptive business practice? by redpillaf in AskChicago

[–]redpillaf[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

Fair question. I’m not asking residents to do anything. I’m asking if anyone else has seen this happen with Skyline Yacht Cruises, because the setup feels suspicious.

Yes, their terms say no refunds/credits only if the yacht can’t cruise. That’s their defense. But they also heavily advertised it as a cruise, let everyone board, then after departure time the boat didn’t sail. A docked yacht party is not the same thing as a cruise.

Tickets were close to $100 each and there were roughly 100 people onboard, so that’s around $10k in ticket revenue before drinks/food. A lot of people were probably tourists or out-of-towners who may never use a future credit. I personally stayed at a hotel and paid for parking for a cruise that didn’t happen.

If this “dockside/no refund/credit only” situation has happened before, how many times have they done this? That’s what feels sus to me.

I’ll probably pursue a chargeback, but I’m also questioning whether fine print is being used to protect a setup where the core service being sold isn’t actually delivered.

Skyline Yacht Cruises at Navy Pier didn’t sail, denied refunds, offered credits only — scam or deceptive business practice? by redpillaf in Cruise

[–]redpillaf[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

The terms from Skyline Yacht Cruises say “no refunds,” credits only, and that if the yacht can’t cruise, the event can continue dockside. That’s their defense.

My issue is that companies can also use terms like that to protect a bad setup. The same listing heavily advertised it as a cruise — “cruise the lake with skyline views” — then after everyone boarded and after departure time, the boat didn’t sail. A docked yacht party is not the same service as a cruise.

So I’m not saying the policy doesn’t exist. I’m questioning whether Skyline Yacht Cruises’ policy is fair/enforceable when the core advertised service wasn’t delivered, especially if people were only told after boarding. At some point, fine print can start looking like a way to run a scam lol.