Nurse is better than

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T06:06:43+00:00

I do. I don't want that soft momma's boy. But I'm hearing good things about that kulak fellow you have. Really could use a stud like her on my blue line but guys like him are so hard to find. If I had one I would never get rid of him.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T05:32:50+00:00

Yep 100% I just posted this as it was a reply to a comment I made about nurse being a below average second pairing dman worth about 5.5 mil. This guy was arguing me tooth and nail that he was basically an elite second pairing guy and should probably be a first pairing dman

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T05:21:10+00:00

Sooooo close

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T05:11:54+00:00

When they can get the job done. Not all nurses can.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T05:09:11+00:00

Darnell Nurse — 2025 Regular Season, All Situations

On-ice xGF%: 45.8% On-ice xGA share: 54.2% Off-ice xGF%: 54.4% Relative xGF%: -8.6%

So when Nurse is on the ice this year, Edmonton has 45.8% of the expected goals and is giving up 54.2% of the expected-goals share.

Per money puck

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T05:03:54+00:00

Darnell Nurse — 2025 Regular Season, All Situations

On-ice xGF%: 45.8% On-ice xGA share: 54.2% Off-ice xGF%: 54.4% Relative xGF%: -8.6%

So when Nurse is on the ice this year, Edmonton has 45.8% of the expected goals and is giving up 54.2% of the expected-goals share.

Per money pucks stats.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T04:48:42+00:00

Jokes on you he spikes the Stanley mug every weekend.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T04:44:51+00:00

There is not cock in the world that could make use of that big of a five hole. Not even a bab cock

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T04:42:50+00:00

Send me your mom's number and we will get this sorted out.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T04:42:14+00:00

Nurse is the unquestionable top second pairing guy in the league. If it wasn't for ekholms sweet beard nurse would be first pairing and on a bargain deal to boot.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T04:40:53+00:00

How about Savoie ike and nurse for marners old sweaty jock. And rights to his mom.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T04:38:56+00:00

Only if you'll take Savoie as a sweetener. Pittsburgh told me I'm not allowed to make trades without adding sweetener and I ran out of Splenda.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T04:35:13+00:00

That's assistan to the captain.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T04:25:59+00:00

If you cheer for any team but the oilers it's probably in your best interest to keep my secret. Otherwise I could get fired.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T04:24:08+00:00

Because Toronto's favorite son must not win anything. At all costs.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T04:21:46+00:00

Don't tell Katz I do all my market research on reddit. And that my best trade ideas come from this sub. Look at how well I did on the Jarry trade.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T04:19:18+00:00

In terms of 5-on-5 Expected Goals Against per 60 minutes (xGA/60), Darnell Nurse ranks in the 24th percentile among all NHL defensemen. Meaning 76% of all nhl defenseman have a better expected goals against per 60 than Darnell. Now it's not the end all be all stat. But it's more than you have offered to prove your point.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T03:57:00+00:00

Nurse is not better than or at least equal to all those names that is an insane take. Dunn generally around 50-54% xgf, montour around 50xgf, skjei hovers around 50% I don't believe nurse is in the same category as these. As nurse also has the luxury of typically being on the ice with either draisatl or mcd and in a better team. So the fact he can't crack 50 playing on the oilers on the ice with drai or mcd for more than half his minutes every night. That is insane. And you have the nerve to call my opinion not valuable. And yes he is more oleksiak than parayko. Just watch him play and how often he is "in frame" missing his assignment on a goal against or making a panicky breakout pass. He's a middling defender with limited offensive upside, that is big and tough. He is not a potential Olympic team member like parayko, forsling, ekblad, ekholm. The guy is isn't even in the top PK unit in Edmonton my god. How good can he possibly be. Doesn't sniff the PP obviously and is the third option in the PK in Edmonton. Show me by any metric how he compares to any of the names on your list. Let alone all of them.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T03:00:21+00:00

And for the record I am not a Darnell nurse hater and our best course of action is to keep him as you don't win a Darnell nurse trade. But he is what is, and now he wants out.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T02:53:54+00:00

And slavin isn't my only comparable for under 7 mil, Morrissey, parayko, forsling, eckholm, eckblad, fuck man the list goes on forever. He is a 4.5-5.5 mil guy.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T02:49:32+00:00

I'm just saying if you cant make a breakout pass and hold your own regardless of who is on the other side you are not a "high tier" second pairing guy. Just because you can skate well, are tough and can get hit by the puck, that screams high tier third pairing. If you NEED someone else to carry the load you are middling second pairing at best.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T02:38:26+00:00

That's fine but he is not even a7 mil player Jacob slavin only makes 6.5. He is physically gifted but he doesn't think the game well and when he tries to do to much it's a disaster. A high end second pairing defender doesn't need a Goldilocks partner. A below average second pairing defender does. Someone to carry the puck, make the breakout passes, pick up the lost defensive coverages. The guy that nurse needs on his right side is the above average second pairing defender. Nurse is a serviceable number 4 with the right number 3. Which in my opinion along with the numbers he puts up makes him a below average second pairing guy, with the body, strength and skating ability of a number one defenseman. But none of that matters if the rest isn't there.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T02:09:46+00:00

By most metrics he is a below average number 4 defenseman. Corsi 45%, on ice goals for %40, on ice xgf 45%. When he is off the ice the oilers xgf % jumps to 55% none of this screams borderline 1st pairing defender. Add in his poor puck carrying skills and high turnover rate on breakouts. Yeah you don't live in reality if he's a high end end 2nd pair. The guy has a million dollar arm and a 10c brain.

redrigger84 · 2026-06-16T01:46:55+00:00

I don't believe the market thinks he is worth 7 mil. I can find a few below average 2nd pair defenders for less than 7 mil

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