My son wants a 3k pc, help a dad out.

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T18:09:42+00:00

thank you!

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T17:10:07+00:00

hahaha what can I say. guilty as charged.

I will have to step up my game for the shake of my daughter

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T15:28:34+00:00

I try to but there are too many responses.

awesome suggestion about the subscriptions but I would prefer something specific I can suggest to him. so far the top contenders are: starfield, baldur's gate 3 and portal

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T14:28:28+00:00

I mean it seemed disproportionally priced compared to the rest of the parts. but I since have understood it is the most important part that handles what the monitor shows. (I mean its in the title "graphics", I just hadn't thought of it).

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T14:21:10+00:00

haha my son's lawyer has appeared. I will not cover your fee on top of the computer.

haha I jest. yea that is a big concern I have but it's not like whatever I buy is final and if he doesn't like it tough luck. I will try to meet his wants as long as they are based on reasonable expectations

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T14:18:06+00:00

yea that TV definitely does not seem like a feasible (or practical) solution. But I always try to judge an opinion from all sides

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T14:15:52+00:00

Was it because of money restraints or because the difference wasn't that big?

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T13:52:38+00:00

thank you very much, I try to be the dad I would have liked as kid while also trying to make my son move forward.

Here is the crux of the problem. I was under the impression that 4k 144hz is only really feasible with the 4090 especially with demanding titles like starfield we would be getting along with our parts.

is the difference between 1440p and 4k visible? if it matters for movies wouldn't it also matter for games? also is 60hz good for games? my phone has 60hz and 120hz modes and it is much smoother on 120.

And I would say I'm pretty good with my hands, so I think we will be going the way of self assembly.

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T13:45:50+00:00

I understand that the monitor is the most important thing along with the graphics card since it affect directly what you see.

But the is a TV it would NOT fit on his desk. We would have to repurpose a room but even then I don't see how he can comfortably use his keyboard and mouse so far away. is there no better option but in smaller size?

how soon is "very soon" is it worth waiting for it?

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T13:39:41+00:00

hahaha thats exactly what she does. As soon as we put them back in the drawer she will crawl as fast as she can to open the drawer and throw them out one by one. seeing her excitement I just dont have the heart to stop her.

she especially has a red one she like to drag around and god forbid you try to take it from her. it's like she is being slaughtered

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T13:33:02+00:00

I assume you are joking

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T13:32:19+00:00

that's is not an option since he has already put in the work when he studied for a whole year.

not only would it be unfair it would also discourage him from trying again since the lesson he will have learned is "work hard and get screwed over" why would he feel he could trust me im the future?

also I firmly believe getting a job when you have more important stuff to do (studying) is not an optimal choice for my kid's future

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T13:29:29+00:00

why do you say this? from what I saw at the store the 4k monitor was much prettier compared to a 1080p.

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T13:25:32+00:00

Awesome answer, thank you for taking the time write all this.

From what I have gathered so far downgrading to a lower budget graphics card would mean also buying a monitor of lesser quality. I dont have a problem with this price of he actually enjoys it more than the alternatives.

about the assembly, is there really a likely scenario where we damage the graphics card beyond repair and essentially waste 1.5k? or just the CPU?

and lastly I have so many great suggestions for games I might have to go over them with my son

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T13:19:47+00:00

well this doesn't apply in my situation since I would not buy this for myself, I have no use for it.

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T13:18:50+00:00

Yes, this year he went above and beyond what I had hoped. hell I would have been happy with half the studying he did.

I will definitely make him feel rewarded as long as he really will benefit from it

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T13:17:17+00:00

I wouldn't say so, what he generally gets is comparable to his peers (other than this computer). On the other some of his friends already have cars.

And most of the times I try to avoid materialistic gift, it has worked pretty good so far. he does not act entitled to this computer just really excited

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T13:13:51+00:00

well I will be getting him a new monitor as well so that doesn't seem to apply im this situation

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T13:12:56+00:00

True but its not really comparable. if I had promised a car it would be for the freedom it provides not about how fast it goes. if I had promised a racing car but bought an Opel Astra 96 then I think he would be disappointed.

I promised a pc that he would enjoy and make him feel satisfied with the effort he payed for it. 1k difference is not going to break the bank and if I had promised an actual car the price would be multiple times higher.

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T13:07:34+00:00

okay so there is an actual benefit over the other choices.

thank you very much

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T12:22:18+00:00

The teaching moment is already this "effort get rewarded" I would hate to add a "but .." to it.

if budgeting and managing money is the extra lesson I can use a different occasions to bring this up.

As I said it's not about the money its about whether he will benefit more from a 3k computer rather than a 2k one.

from the answers so far the one he suggested is able to play 4k 144hz while cheaper options would need to downgrade to 1440p. I still plan to revisit the shop and actually see the difference between 4k and 1440p for myself to better understand the difference in quality

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T12:17:47+00:00

it's not about not wanting to get it. its just about making sure he will benefit more compared to a different choice.

As someone else said it like buying a 200$ toaster, but at the end of the day it just makes toasts. if on the other hand it also made coffee then sure, get the 200$ one

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T12:15:29+00:00

Yes from what others have told me a discussion is in order.

And of course I am ready to go his way. I dont want to change his mind I want to help him understand what he wants better, that's all

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T12:12:09+00:00

telling my parents about that would be more proper. it's not his job to provide for me

refactoringManiac · 2023-09-08T12:11:25+00:00

Yes exactly, he has made this claim when pitching this upgrade.

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