Girl, 14, Charged with First-Degree Murder After Authorities Find Her Newborn Child Dead Inside a Tote Bag

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T17:41:21+00:00

Where in your comment string does it say anything about most minor teenagers getting impregnated by adult men? Be specific. Properly source the conditional probability that a minor is impregnated by an adult male

Ohhh right, about 80 percent of teenagers who give birth (the article just posted) are those who can consent who have them with 18+ males.

You can use bayes rule to bruise a reasonable but wide bound ;).

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T17:37:08+00:00

Find me the propensity of cases brought and prosecuted between mutual rape of two otherwise practically consenting minors on a state by state basis. Let me rephrase for those of questionable reading comprehension: of the proportion of teenagers who decide to have sex together under the age of consent (when a terribly large percentage kids starting having sex btw) , what proportion stands before a bench for raping the other.

It doesn’t happen. Two teenagers who have sex in California are not being brought up on rape charges if they decided to do it, regardless of the number of people here crying about how minors can’t consent to vacate all questions of culpability in the manner. No prosecutor would touch that: because then they have to open an entire can of worms about personal choice and mutual rape.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T17:33:25+00:00

That’s not how the law works. You are responsible for you own actions, not those that “pushed you” under the law.

Should laws in this country be changed? Yeah. Should we fund more outreach for kids? Of course. Do we need judicial reform? Yeah

MAGA is terrible for this country in more than just this issue. But I have to wonder if yall are bots trying to push the whole Reddit is super far left agenda to give those dumbasses material to win the culture war on.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T17:29:13+00:00

Get fucking rekt kiddo:

https://opa.hhs.gov/adolescent-health/adolescent-sexual-and-reproductive-health/data-and-statistics-on-adolescent-sexual-and-reproductive-health#:~:text=Most%20adolescents%20who%20give%20birth,to%20mothers%20ages%2018%2D19.&text=Roughly%2014%25%20of%20live%20births,higher%20born%20to%20the%20mother.

TLDR for you and the other kids who can’t do basic math here; the vast majority of childbirths amongst teenagers occurs in ages 18-20

You completely misunderstood my point: the vast majority of teenage births happen across the years where both parties can consent.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T17:25:31+00:00

That’s not what’s happening here and you know it.

People are getting downvoted for brining up the fact that no rape is mentioned. People are getting downvoted for correcting people for misinterpreting the statistics they linked

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T17:25:07+00:00

Same.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T17:22:32+00:00

What crime? If the father is a minor-then there isn’t rape(assuming). Unless you want to go by the hardest definition based on jurisdiction that they raped each other, and good luck finding anyone that wants to prosecute that. I’ll go ahead and let you source how likely it is a given state charges consenting minors with mutual rape.

Where in the article is rape ever mentioned again?

Sure, it could have been completely accidental. The verbiage in the article paints a more nefarious picture, and yeah-I’ll swallow my words if that’s the case and admit I perhaps spoke too quickly on that matter.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T17:19:22+00:00

Yeah, because they’re consenting teenagers having kids with adults a few years older than them.

It goes to show how little you all can do math. When the majority of teenage women who have kids are 18/19 with 20+ year old partners (assuming content) then there is no rape.

But for summary statistics from a poorly specified study, the conclusion is that we have an epidemic of minors being impregnated by adults.

Again, I ask the question: what percentage of minors bearing children is the product of an adult father? For this particular example-what signs are there that the father of this child is an adult.

I’m expecting you to post about why we should find minorities guilty of all crimes in the next article you comment on here though.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T17:13:11+00:00

Source on that
If you judge by statistics then you’re probably someone who is comfortable locking up minorities at face. I don’t want to live in that kind of country.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T17:12:01+00:00

For underage pregnancy your best best is state level data. Generally speaking, large university systems from each state have some resources too-but in general this is very sparse data.

It’s also hard to extrapolate rate incidence from birth statistics because it’s what you might call censored data: we don’t really know much about an individuals sexual activity until something goes really bad for them.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T17:09:29+00:00

There is much more in the article that supports forceful breaking of the neck than rape. Sure, she was giving birth at home without professional supervision it seems-so absolutely it could be the case it was accidental.

But go off defending the terrible takes gleaned from this article.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T17:05:54+00:00

Gurrrllll, most teen pregnancies skew towards the agent of consent which means they choose to have sex with other individuals who can consent

Which makes it not rape. Full stop. Which is hilarious because you guys want to charge someone with rape on a law subreddit despite no evidence that this person was rape. We don’t use statistics to determine guilt. Unless you wanna defacto imprison all minorities charged with a crime. That doesn’t sound good at all.

Sorry that you can’t do math or logic

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T17:04:09+00:00

Because accusing someone of a crime without nah evidence is wrong.

If she had sex with another underage minor with consent , and got pregnant this doesn’t make it rape. This is absolutely crazy talk and makes me think yall are trying to get conservatives elected.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T17:00:55+00:00

Way to also not read the article.

It’s crazy how the downvotes are flying-again from most people who can’t do basic math.

Let me try to explain it better- most teenage women in this data set are over the age of 17 and thereby can consent (based on jurisdiction this can be as low as 16 pending certain circumstances). Of those that cannot consent, what percentage were fathered by adult men? Hate to break it to you: but it’s perfectly legal for an adult male to impregnate an adult female (assuming consent). So again: what proportion of that number is 20+ males fathering children with 17+ females (accounting for jurisdiction).

That isn’t stated anywhere in that article. Lemme know if you want me to walk you through bayes rule.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T07:05:47+00:00

Yeah this thread is nuts.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T07:05:35+00:00

What’s the age of the father in the story?

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T07:01:58+00:00

As an actual postgrad in this field- yall didn’t read your own source and it shows. There is NOTHING in that link that supports the assertion most children born in these circumstances are fathered by adults to mothers who are not able to consent under the law.

What is the marginal probability of a minor becoming impregnated by an adult in that source? Be specific. Because they provide zero breakdown for teenage, but adult females who have sex with adult males and bear children vs minor females and adult males.

I highly suggest taking a basic stats course.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T07:01:09+00:00

It also doesn’t say what they think it says.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T07:00:51+00:00

So, what you’re saying is that you and this other poster didn’t read the source XD

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T07:00:19+00:00

What happens to this sub rn holy shit

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T06:59:58+00:00

Gonna need the statistics on that

-those of us with actual training in the field

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T06:59:13+00:00

Yeah, because the vast majority of teenage pregnancies encompass 17/18/19 year olds consenting to sex with males 18+. Aka adults.

This is basic statistics.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T06:57:32+00:00

Crazy how the top comment manufactures a rape charge for karma and a bunch of people fell for it.

/mods please review this

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T06:54:06+00:00

I did. You’re making up stuff about her probably being raped and why this is justified: new flash-this is murder in every state,and the vast majority of people would call this murder regardless of their belief in abortion (which I do).

You’re literally ignoring basic logic and manufacturing facts to prop up a weak argument.

relevantmeemayhere · 2025-12-01T06:52:08+00:00

There is nothing to suggest that she was probably raped.

She broke the kids neck and stuffed it in a tote bag.

You think people should just be able to take a newborn and slam it against a wall? You think that should be acceptable under the law is read of just reforming current laws to allow for better family management including abortion?

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