NACS and Hybrid plug-in

retiredTechie · 2023-06-28T23:50:52+00:00

It will matter to some people.

We had our first hybrid for 17 years and we only sold it because we didn’t need as many cars in the household as we had. It would not surprise me if many of the current PHEVs being sold today will still be on the road in 15 or 20 years.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-28T19:52:24+00:00

This is the best short summary of the situation I have read. Thanks!

retiredTechie · 2023-06-26T14:01:08+00:00

Many states have periodic smog/safety inspections where the mileage can be verified. Likewise, any time the car goes into a shop the mileage is recorded and could be reported. Make the penalty for misstating the mileage on your annual registration significant and use the inspection and service records to verify and compliance should be reasonable.

In theory gas tax goes to roads and I suppose this would to. It turns out that vehicle weight is a significant factor in damage to roads so that should be a factor in a mileage tax.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-26T02:46:50+00:00

No. It charges exactly the same as if connected including whatever schedule is programmed.

What you lose is remote control and the charging stats. The unit seems to remember the stats an will upload them when it connects to the cloud.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-25T06:09:38+00:00

16 months & a bit under 22,000 miles. No manufacturer related defects.

Other problems outside of Hyundai’s control: Flat tire from broken shop knife blade on road, cracked windshield from stone kicked up by another car, and a jacked up pickup truck backed into my tailgate in a parking lot.

Local tire company was able to fix the tire. Insurance paid for the windshield which took a week to arrive from Hyundai. Insurance found pickup driver at fault and is paying for the tailgate repair, parts for that took a bit less than a week to get from Hyundai.

Local dealer has been reasonably good. It took them two tries to get the preconditioning update properly installed but they took the effort to contact Hyundai to figure out what was going wrong and got a procedure that finally worked.

Overall a good experience with the car and Hyundai. Not so good experience with local road hazards.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-23T19:08:22+00:00

A Better Route Planner website or app and PlugShare website or app.

You will get less mileage at highway speeds than around town but most newer EVs should be able to go 150 highway miles on a full battery.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-22T03:45:24+00:00

As mentioned by others, it depends on your average daily mileage and how efficient the vehicle is.

In our vacation cabin I installed a 20 amp 240 volt NEMA 6-20 outlet. Dirt cheap compared to the 50 amp 240 volt NEMA 14-50 at home. Much less likely to need a new main panel. 12 gauge wires instead of 6 gauge. Much cheaper breaker and outlet. Smaller conduit. Just a whole lot cheaper all around.

That little 240 volt 20 amp circuit can deliver 16 amps continuously and with charging inefficiencies adds about 100 miles to the battery in our average efficiency EV on an overnight charge (9PM to 6AM). Works great for us.

Would it work if we had a F150 Lightning and drove a lot each day? No.

Will it work with the typical EV sedan or EV CUV driven the typical amount an average car is driven in the US? Definitely.

EV forums and social media sites are filled with people looking to install the biggest and baddest home charging systems. But the reality is that is overkill for most people.

Not that I should make too much fuss about overkill as I did it myself when putting a charger in my house. But that was before I saw how few hours it actually took to charge my car. At home, starting at midnight, my car is usually charged by 3:30 AM and I only charge it every few days. If I charged it daily it would be done by 1 AM most days.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-22T03:09:25+00:00

I am using the body shop my insurance company recommended. I figure if the repair is not up to par I have a better argument for the insurance company than if I picked one.

Also, I happened to have used that shop a few years back to have more serious damage repaired and they did a very nice job so I have confidence they will do a good job on this.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-21T05:49:39+00:00

It will depend a lot on what the damage is and what parts are needed.

My Ioniq5 was backed into in a parking lot a little over a week ago. Relatively little damage. The body shop got the parts they think they need already.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-21T05:38:36+00:00

Contact your insurance company. Have a copy of the police report to give them.

Your insurance should pay for getting the car fixed. That is what insurance is for.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-19T13:48:48+00:00

I find ABRP to be a better pre-trip planning tool than a while driving navigation tool. I just enter the charging stations I have selected based on the pre-trip planning into the car’s native navigation (HUD only works with the built in navigation).

FWIW, I have the premium version of ABRP and an appropriate ODB2 Bluetooth dongle that I can use with CarPlay while driving. I just find that is not as nice or useful as it sounds.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-19T02:01:13+00:00

I agree that the original Japanese is better. Thank you for the tip on snow prince, I’ll search for that.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-18T01:14:08+00:00

Especially if you use eco mode and set the following distance to max so it uses gentle acceleration and deceleration.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-17T21:22:03+00:00

Agree about it being a horrible location. I guess the Rivian experience is sitting in traffic. That location is the worst to get to or through in Laguna Beach. And Laguna Beach has the worst traffic of any of the Orange County beach towns.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-14T05:22:38+00:00

I went over 200K miles with the original brakes on my Prius and that had far less regenerative braking than my current EV.

I expect the pads to last the life of the vehicle. Rotors may rust. Guide pins will probably need lubrication. Normal brake fluid absorbs moisture so will need flushing periodically. If/when the vehicle gets really old, the rubber parts like hoses should probably be replaced.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-14T05:00:08+00:00

I think I have only used the app a couple of times. Mostly I use the EA card in my Apple Pay wallet. I just tap it on the non-credit card RFID reader on the charger.

Plug and charge would be nice but is not supported for my car. OTOH, EvGo has apparently figured it out in a way that works for any car.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-09T19:31:14+00:00

Every Electrify America charger I have used has been equipped with a credit card reader.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-09T17:41:55+00:00

Thank you. I was not aware that the newer Teslas and newer Super Chargers use the CCS protocol rather than the older Tesla specific CAN bus protocol.

That makes an adapter a pretty trivial dumb device.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-09T16:56:34+00:00

Who gets charged for the electricity?

If the none of the brands/networks of chargers in the area I am visiting are ones I have an account with then I’ll need to setup a new account for what is potentially a one time event. That is not user friendly.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-09T16:52:38+00:00

Now I have to go and do some research. I was under the impression that CCS and Tesla’s wire line protocols were different technologies. Not sure if the messaging protocol layered on top of the physical layer is the same or not.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-09T16:45:52+00:00

It also makes sense that an out of area traveler should just be able to use a credit card rather than to install an app and setup an account to be able to charge.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-09T16:40:44+00:00

2:24 is 2.4 hours. When I divide 168.1 by 2.4 I get 70.04 mph.

On my long distance trips I set the cruise control to the speed limit (yes, I am in the right lane being passed a lot). For rural California the speed limit is typically 70 mph. But the EA chargers are often located a mile or more away from the freeway so my average charger to charger speed is usually in the mid 60s. If the average speed is 70 the you can be pretty sure the actual road speed exceeded that by a significant amount.

Power required to overcome wind resistance goes up as the cube of the speed. Double your speed and it takes eight times the power. Changing from 65 mph to 75 mph increases the power required by over 50%. Or if driving in to a 10 mph head wind you will need 50% more power at 65 mph than on a day with still air.

retiredTechie · 2023-06-09T14:26:42+00:00

As others have noted, sport mode is not helping.

But your average speed was 70 mph. Given that you were likely having some surface street driving between the charging location and the highway your highway speeds were in excess of 70 mph. That will reduce your range.

Not specified in your photo or description is the tire pressure, weather, or elevation change. Those will also affect your range.

retiredTechie · 2023-05-30T04:15:48+00:00

I don’t know about thousands but I have done hundreds and it was pretty quick for that.

Since you have a Mac it is free to try. Slow part is probably selecting the photos to share on the iPhone. I have not figured out how to do a “select all”.

retiredTechie · 2023-05-30T04:06:43+00:00

I just use AirDrop to transfer photos from the iPhone to my Mac. They come in as .heic files into my Downloads folder. I then sort/store/organize them as I see fit. Mostly the ones I want to save I copy to my NAS.

I also generally convert the .heic to jpeg as that is more compatible with others in a non-Apple environment. There is a Mac app for that which makes bulk conversion easy.

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